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ak_nelson - Greetings from Denmark!


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ak_nelson
  Jan 25, 07, 14:46  #1

Hi everyone,
I'm an american living in denmark. No polish relatives, only friends. I just like poland a lot. :-) I'm really interested in polish culture and arts. I'm crazy about Lem and Keislowski, certain Polanski films, and Jerzy Stuhr. I want to learn a lot more though.

I think it's really a shame that so many people seem to have a decades old view of poland. Especially aggrevating when people don't even want their out-dated perspective challenged.

I travelled there a few summers ago and loved it. The tatras are just beautiful, and I found people very nice about working through the language barrier. The people I spent time with were such great hosts. I was really excited to learn about poland, and it was great how many people were excited to tell me about it. The good, the bad and the weird. Fascinating place.

I'm also very interested in polish immigration and integration in denmark and other scandinavian countries. And, of course, it would also be fun to make some new polish friends. :-)
-AK

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FISZ
  Jan 25, 07, 14:50  #2

Welcome to the forum!

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Wroclaw
  Jan 25, 07, 14:51  #3

Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #1
it would also be fun to make some new polish friends. :-)


You have some new friends right here. Welcome.

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Ranj
  Jan 25, 07, 14:52  #4

Welcome, AK. What kind of work are you doing in Denmark or are you just there for the culture or a student?

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Amathyst
  Jan 25, 07, 14:58  #5

Hi

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ak_nelson
  Jan 25, 07, 15:03  #6

Quoting: Ranj, Post #4
What kind of work are you doing in Denmark or are you just there for the culture or a student?


I've lived here for nine years. I used to be married to a dane, but stayed on after that relationship because I love it here and thankfully have a permanent residency permit. I never liked the american lifestyle, and can't imagine I'll ever go back. Scandinavia suits me much better. ;-) I consider myself very fortunate.

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ak_nelson
  Jan 25, 07, 15:07  #7

Quoting: Ranj, Post #4
What kind of work


Web sites. Corporate ones.

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globetrotter
  Jan 25, 07, 15:45  #8

Goddag


That's all of my Danish andout of the way up front. Welcome and enjoy your stay.

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Amathyst
  Jan 25, 07, 15:59  #9

Hi fives!

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krysia
  Jan 25, 07, 17:18  #10

I like Denmark, like the language, nice people. Do you speak Danish pretty good now?

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Matyjasz
  Jan 25, 07, 17:21  #11

Welcome.

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ak_nelson
  Jan 26, 07, 09:35  #12

Quoting: krysia, Post #12
I like Denmark, like the language, nice people. Do you speak Danish pretty good now?


Hehe. I think that's the first time I've heard someone say they like the language. :-) I speak it fairly well. I'm proud my pronunciation is good enough that danes rarely guess I'm american. Correct and proper writing is another thing though. I'm trying to work on that in order to pass the language test I need to get a danish passport. The conservatives made the tests much more difficult a few years back to make it tough on foreigners. The test is not even practical for living here... 4 hours, most of which is writing essays. Speaking and understading are so much more important.

Here's a few easy words...

Hi = "Hej" (almost like in english, just clip the last part of the 'i' sound)
Bye = "Hej Hej" or just "Hej"
Cheers = "Skål" (skoal)
Thank you = "Tak" (kind of a short, clipped version of the polish 'tak')
You're welcome = "Selv tak" (like 'sell', but not drawn out at the end.) (literally 'thanks yourself')

Most danish is pronounced from the back part mouth, it's possible to say quite a few words without moving your lips at all.

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davidpeake
  Jan 26, 07, 09:38  #13

welcome AK

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Maxxx Payne
  Jan 28, 07, 10:41  #14

Welcome ! Denmark is my favorite Scandinavian country.

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krysia
Edited by: krysia  Jan 28, 07, 13:52  #15

What is the difference between Danish and Swedish? I know some letters are different. I'm studying Swedish and it's almost the same as Danish. Do you know in which way it differs?
What made you decide to stay there? I was in Copenhagen several times and I really like it there as well as Sweden.

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Maxxx Payne
  Jan 28, 07, 14:40  #16

Quoting: krysia, Post #17
What is the difference between Danish and Swedish? I know some letters are different. I'm studying Swedish and it's almost the same as Danish. Do you know in which way it differs?



Pronounciation is very different the words in Danish come much more back from the mouth as nelson said.

For example: "läkare" and "lärare" are indistinguishable in their spoken form in Danish.

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krysia
  Jan 28, 07, 14:41  #17

Cool! Can a Swede communicate with a Dane and understand each other?

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ak_nelson
Edited by: ak_nelson  Jan 29, 07, 00:59  #18

Quoting: krysia, Post #19
Can a Swede communicate with a Dane and understand each other?


The swedes like to say danes sound like they speak with potatoes in their mouth. We tend to mumble A LOT in danish. It can be quite a hard language to learn to understand. Pronunciation is also quite a bit harder to learn than swedish.

Depends a lot on where they are from. Swedes from Stockholm tend not to understand much, whereas those from southern sweden can grasp quite a bit. This goes for danes as well, those living closer to sweden vs. those who don't. Most foreigners who've learned danish can't understand much swedish. It's pretty hard.

They are not as similar as people think. Many verbs are not the same. Swedes who move here to have professional careers, learn danish. Same with with danes. Written norwegian is more similar to danish, than swedish.

Generally, danes have no particular fondness for swedes or swedish though, so it's usually much better to speak english here than swedish (or german obviously).

A polish friend here says it's similar to comparting polish and czech.

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ak_nelson
  Jan 29, 07, 01:00  #19

Quoting: Maxxx Payne, Post #16
Denmark is my favorite Scandinavian country


Cool. We are the most fun!

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krysia
  Jan 29, 07, 03:43  #20

Thanks ak. Very interesting. Do you miss the US?

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Matyjasz
  Jan 29, 07, 04:03  #21

I understand the Viking connection, but why do people say that Denmark is a Scandinavian country, since it doesn't lie on Scandinavian Peninsula?

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ak_nelson
  Jan 29, 07, 05:47  #22

Quoting: krysia, Post #22
Do you miss the US?


Not much actually. I miss certain people, but not the lifestyle or culture.

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ak_nelson
  Jan 29, 07, 06:24  #23

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #23
why do people say that Denmark is a Scandinavian country, since it doesn't lie on Scandinavian Peninsula?


It's mainly comes from common culture and language. The territories also changed considerably after the viking days. "Scandinavia" is also more of a term of conveinence than anything else. It's only been popularly used since the 1800's, thanks in part to Hans Christian Andersen.

"Scandinavia" often gets used rather loosely. Officially, it is only comprimised of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. "Nordic Countries" is broader, including: Finland, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe Islands.

Drifting down south a bit... What's the deal with the term "central europe"? It keeps changing. What countries do Poles consider to be in central europe?

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Matyjasz
  Jan 29, 07, 07:05  #24

I get it.

Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #25
Drifting down south a bit... What's the deal with the term "central europe"? It keeps changing. What countries do Poles consider to be in central europe?


This term is sooo last summer! It seems that I'm an Eastern European now. EE as some prefer. Basically the term "Central Europe" was always a very artificial one and I don't think that many people treat it serious.

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ak_nelson
  Jan 29, 07, 11:04  #25

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #26
Basically the term "Central Europe" was always a very artificial one and I don't think that many people treat it serious.


Interesting, thanks.

I've been using it, mainly because it seemed wrong for poland and russia to be in the same group. But, I guess if poles aren't bothered by it, I shouldn't be.

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