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Alternative History of August 1939 and Thereafter


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eleutherios
  Feb 14, 08, 22:51  #1

So glad to find y'all here !
Who better to help me dope this out?

Let me ask two things of you.
First, suspend your disbelief.

Okay, done that?
Then next ... suppose it is, say, August 1, 1939.
Hitler has been diplomatically rampaging through central Europe.
Prague fell in the spring - without a shot being fired.
German forces surround Poland on 3 sides.

Colonel Beck finally decides that Polska's up next.
He gets the Brits and France to guarantee Poland's integrity and independence.
But you know all that already.

Suppose, though ... that Hitler, a man of astonishing abilities and capacity, along with his diabolical malevolence ...
managed to foresee a glimpse of the future course, conduct, and consequences of his new war
... especially in the East.

Suppose he decided to back off from attacking Poland a month later?
Would he have even bothered with the Soviet pact?
Would Stalin have started the war a year or two later?
Could the rule of the colonels in Poland have continued indefinitely?

How would history have taken it from there?

Thanks for your helpful thoughts !

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plk123
  Feb 14, 08, 23:01  #2

you could fill in endless scenrios.. what's your point?


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isthatu
  Feb 15, 08, 15:31  #3

eleutherios wrote:
that Hitler, a man of astonishing abilities and capacity, along with his diabolical malevolence ...

lmao....hitler was the reason the Hun lost the war,he was a syphalitic lunatic that couldnt have organised a p iss up in a vodka factory....


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Vanguard
  Feb 15, 08, 20:53  #4

We all would have been better off had WWII not been fought.

What did Europe get? Blacks overrunning England? Jews got Israel? Beautiful cities like Warsaw nearly leveled?

Europe lost its confidence after WWII... and willingly gave up all its colonies in Africa and Asia. Too sad.

Whites got nothing from WWII. Only destruction. And now with the invasion of Europe from third worlders, the gene pool is getting contaminated.

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El Gato
Edited by: El Gato  Feb 15, 08, 20:56  #5

Vanguard wrote:
Beautiful cities like Warsaw nearly leveled?


Nearly? Are you f*cking kidding? Have you seen the pictures? I've got a brick from the old Cathedral that my father gave me...


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husarz
  Feb 17, 08, 14:27  #6

Vanguard wrote:

We all would have been better off had WWII not been fought.

Whites got nothing from WWII. Only destruction. And now with the invasion of Europe from third worlders, the gene pool is getting contaminated.


++1

How very true. We stopped one invasion just to be invaded more methodically by our rulers from a different front. The only good thing that came out of the war for Poland was a more homogeneous country, but for all the suffering she had suffered I doubt it was very worth it.

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plk123
  Feb 17, 08, 14:41  #7

Vanguard wrote:
Beautiful cities like Warsaw nearly leveled?

nearly?
Vanguard wrote:
Too sad.

they were occupying these countries.. it is good that they are independent now.

the other racist crap you spewed has nothing to do with the war or it's results.


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joepilsudski
  Feb 26, 08, 14:32  #8

eleutherios wrote:
Suppose, though ... that Hitler, a man of astonishing abilities and capacity, along with his diabolical malevolence ...
managed to foresee a glimpse of the future course, conduct, and consequences of his new war
... especially in the East.


One of Hitler's prime motivations was to stop the communists/bolsheviks...in order to do that, it entailed an invasion of the Soviet Union...the shortest route to the Soviets was through Poland.

Vanguard wrote:
We all would have been better off had WWII not been fought.

What did Europe get? Blacks overrunning England? Jews got Israel? Beautiful cities like Warsaw nearly leveled?

Europe lost its confidence after WWII... and willingly gave up all its colonies in Africa and Asia. Too sad.

Whites got nothing from WWII. Only destruction. And now with the invasion of Europe from third worlders, the gene pool is getting contaminated.


Whether you consider what this gentleman says 'racist', what he says is substantially true...Who profitted from WWII?...the usual suspects: bankers, rich industrialists (did you know that none of the Krupp factories in Germany were bombing targets?), criminals
of different stripes...also, the Communists got the 'Warsaw Bloc', the European Jews got Israel...the Balkans got communism, too...ultimately what did the Poles, Germans, Russian, Ukranian people get?...just more misery, poverty & oppression...Poland never even was permitted to participate in the Marshall Plan after the war...and what banks 'floated' and made profits on the bonds that financed the Marshall Plan?...As the American General Smedley Butler wrote, 'War Is A Racket'.

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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Feb 26, 08, 14:38  #9

Hitler was the ultimate nationalist! A most murderous war followed.

That led to nationalism being shunned and taboo in Europe (not only in Germany) to the advantage of people who have no patriotism and allegiance to any nation at all.

We now bear the fruits!


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TripTic
  Feb 26, 08, 14:42  #10

eleutherios wrote:
August 1, 1939.
Hitler has been diplomatically rampaging through central Europe



September 1, 1939 - to be more precise


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joepilsudski
  Feb 28, 08, 15:30  #11

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
That led to nationalism being shunned and taboo in Europe (not only in Germany) to the advantage of people who have no patriotism and allegiance to any nation at all.


Quite right...people 'who have no patriotism and allegiance to any nation at all'...or some might say 'to another nation'...and the biggest damage from this is in that young Europeans of all kinds are taken in by this globalist propaganda, and therefor lose the
heart & will to make their own nations great...they think they are part of a 'great global village', but in fact they are just 'human resources' waiting to be harvested by elite coporate & banking interests who will put them in the 'blender', or 'meat grinder'.

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