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SSpringer
  Sep 21, 07, 10:54  #151

Quoting: Sidewinder

SSpringer,

the same with me. :) Since I know my great great grandfather was Polish, dunno where he lived exactly, hope to find out. It's great I have some Polish roots, it explains also my attitude to Poland and Polish people :)

Though when I was a child, my grandfather told me also one of my veery distant relatives, (like g-g-g- etc. father) was a Tatar duke, lol.

i found my great grand fathers birth certificate a while back and they said his parents were from Poland, i cant remember where though :(

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witek
  Sep 23, 07, 01:24  #152

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Quoting: truhlei
Witek,

Can you give us the explication of nobel Prussian surnames ending by "c". Isn't it the Slav transformed "cz"? Does that mean that these nobels are of Slav origin or the villages they owned were Slavs?


German/Prussian surname ending "tz" is taken from Polish "cz" (Bukowicz -> Bukowitz)

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truhlei
  Sep 23, 07, 05:06  #153

Quoting: witek
German/Prussian surname ending "tz" is taken from Polish "cz" (Bukowicz -> Bukowitz)

Were these the names of villages German nobels owned or their own surnames? Were Prussian nobels of Slav origin?

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SSpringer
  Sep 24, 07, 02:07  #154

well i found out i was way off, my great grandmothers parents are from krakow and my great grandfathers parents are from ukraine

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behnke
  Sep 29, 07, 09:20  #155

my name is jan i am 50% polish and 50% scotish what does that make, i was born in england, but my heart is polish

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 09:27  #156

Quoting: behnke
my name is jan i am 50% polish and 50% scotish what does that make, i was born in england, but my heart is polish


heart is the most important :)

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 10:30  #157

Quoting: Lukasz
heart is the most important :)

Lukasz your ancestors were Lithuanians. Your heart is Lithuanian?

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 11:53  #158

Quoting: truhlei
Lukasz your ancestors were Lithuanians. Your heart is Lithuanian?


I m in small % Lithuanian, but it doesnt matter. My Lithuenian ancestors prefered to be Poles (in times when it was a problem), so I dont feel Lithuanian. You know It is hard to feel Lithuanian when you dont have any connections with their culture and some ancestors were Lithuenians in XVI century ... You should notice I m a little bit Radziwil (Prince) and all European aristocracy were mixed so much with other European aristocracy, that I just dont know exact % of my blood and which part belongs to which country.

Most of all people with prince blood are mixed look on English aristrocrats or Franch.


I like Lithuenians esp last time when they started cooperate with us in russia case.

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:10  #159

Quoting: Lukasz
I m in small % Lithuanian,

Which kind of Lithuanian origin you mean? Ethnic Jemojts as the ancestors of Radziwil or all Lithuanian szlachta in general (205 Jamojts and 805 Slavs)?

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:12  #160

Quoting: Lukasz
I just dont know exact % of my blood

I don't mean bllod law. Only Ground law. Residence in lands of Great Duchy of Lithuania before 1795 and in correspondent districts after.

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:13  #161

Quoting: Lukasz
My Lithuenian ancestors prefered to be Poles (in times when it was a problem), so I dont feel Lithuanian.

What signs of that do you have?

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 12:14  #162

Quoting: truhlei
What signs of that do you have?


1920 they fighted against Lithuenians and Red Army ...

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 12:19  #163

So I will tell you what do I think, now in Lithueania there is group of people who prefere to fell not Lithuenians but ¯mudzin, but if you asked their ancestors about nationality they would answered Polish or Lithueanian

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:21  #164

Quoting: Lukasz
1920 they fighted against Lithuenians and Red Army ...

Against Lithuanians or ¯mudzin nationalists?

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 12:23  #165

Quoting: truhlei
Against Lithuanians or ¯mudzin nationalists?



agains commie barbarians and their supporters

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:27  #166

I repeat my question:
Against Lithuanians (residents of former Great Duchy of Lithuania) or Zmudzin nationalists?
You wrote they wanted to be Poles but all your story means the weren't Zmudzins nationalists only. That is the reason for my question

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 12:33  #167

I feel part of this civilization

some of Radziwill palaces :

wdwqefrfg


werfffsd

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 12:34  #168

Quoting: truhlei
Against Lithuanians (residents of former Great Duchy of Lithuania) or Zmudzin nationalists?


I dont carre against who they fighted all I know that they were on right side

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:51  #169

Quoting: Lukasz
I dont carre against who they fighted all I know that they were on right side

In my opinion you confuse ethnic Zmudzins and Lithuanians in general. That id due to "polonozation" propaganda in the second half of 19 century. There were no Poles in Great Duchy of Lithuania even in the early 19 century. Only Lithuanians

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:53  #170

Quoting: Lukasz
I dont carre against who they fighted all I know that they were on right side

A good man for Russia.

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 12:53  #171

weffffgfhd

citizens had different opinion

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:54  #172

Quoting: Lukasz
feel part of this civilization

some of Radziwill palaces :

A German style is the part of civilization you feel part?
As to me nothing better than a poor folwark exists.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 12:54  #173

You should notice that "Polish voting action" win all local elections till today in grouds surrouding Wilno, Lithueanian capital

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 12:59  #174

Quoting: Lukasz
You should notice that "Polish voting action" win all local elections till today in grouds surrouding Wilno, Lithueanian capital

I repeat: there is the difference between the historical meaning of Lithuanian and its today meaning.
According to old meaning there are no Poles in lands of Great Lithuania. All are Lithuanians

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 13:01  #175

Quoting: truhlei
According to old meaning there are no Poles in lands of Great Lithuania. All are Lithuanians


so why so many of Lithueania citizens consider themselfes Poles ??? In 2007 year, 70 yars after last time there was Poland

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 13:09  #176

Quoting: Lukasz
so why so many of Lithueania citizens consider themselfes Poles ???

Because today Lithuania isn't the same thing than Great Duchy of Lithuania, non ethnic state. So those who call themselves Poles now show only that they don't feel themselves ethnic Zmudzin. Nothung more.
Adam Mickiewicz could also declare himself Pole now in Wilno although in his time he wrote he was Lithuanian

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Ericasuf
  Oct 8, 07, 18:47  #177

My dad's side of the family is VERY Polish. Polish and Austrian. Mostly Polish though.

My mom's side of the family is VERY Native American. Woot.

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kopbyt
  Oct 17, 07, 00:20  #178

Regarding the surname Korbut, understand that the suffix but means "to be." Is it correct that "kor" means "military" or "war?"

Thanks to advise the best translation: "in the military" "soldier?"

I have also read that that Korbut, Korbutas, Korybut was also a title adopted by some.

Thanks for your good comment.

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Janet Bernosky
  Nov 7, 07, 10:21  #179

I read your post with interest. I have a gggrandmother whose name was Ursula Hryncewicz, who married Jozef Baranowski. I am thinking that she would have been born in the 1840s or 50s. They would have been from the area around Wilno/ Vilnius, although the Baranowski family considered themselves to be Polish, ethnically. Please contact me if you have any family information that might be useful! Thank you! Janet

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Pedrovski
  Nov 7, 07, 12:12  #180

Quoting: Jeska
Awww I'm jealous lol I'm 50% Norwegian 25% Finnish 25% Swede. hehe

*assumes the position*


Don't be. Think of yourself as 100% Scandinavian, and the problem is solved.

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