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  Jul 24, 06, 02:17  #1

My boyfriend lived in the US for a year but now lives back home in Poland and I am considering living in Poland just to be with him. But the problem is what job would I get when I don't know the language. Also that I would like to go to college there. I am planning to visit there for 2 months then make my decision. Are there many Americans in Poland?



                              
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IndianPolishGurl [Guest]
  Jul 24, 06, 02:29  #2

I am American born... Im going to be living there in the future. I know how to speak Polish, but im still learning how to write lol...

Jobs... how old are you and what are your qualifications? Depending on this, if you learn the basic one year of Polish language... you could become a teacher of English... also if u go to college, depending where u r going to go but in Warszawa (Warsaw) University there has courses in English and a lot of Americans are in fact there....

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bolo
Edited by: bolo  Jul 25, 06, 18:56  #3

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I assume you are a student, aren't you? Yes, there are many Americans in Poland - especially in big cities like Warsaw, Krakow, or Poznan. There are also quite a few international and good universities that are approved world-wide. Note that studying in Poland isn't as "easy" as in the US - the professors are more strict and you would have to spend some good time studying and learning the material. I'm sure you will do just fine, but yes - it's a wise decision to go there for a couple of months to find out if it's for you.

Also, it would be good for us to know which are / province he lives to determine if it's a good region for study or work.


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  Jul 26, 06, 14:54  #4

I am 19 years old, I will be starting my second year of college this fall. I plan to visit Poland for a month this winter and also a month next summer. I could become a English teacher like IndianPolishGirl was saying, or I really don't know what else, any other ideas? Should I finish out my 2 last years of school in U.S or there in a University in Poland? He lives in Kielce. Thanks for the information, any more would be helpful



                              
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robersts [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 15:15  #5

bolo
'Note that studying in Poland isn't as "easy" as in the US - the professors are more strict and you would have to spend some good time studying and learning the material. '

are you suggesting you do not have to learn wherever you are

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bolo
  Jul 26, 06, 15:21  #6

Quoting: robersts, Post #5
are you suggesting you do not have to learn wherever you are

I'm suggesting that it takes more time and effort to graduate from a Polish university than from the American one. The Polish educational system is much more strict and difficult than the American one - I learned something in the primary school in Poland while in the US they teach the same in college...


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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada  Jul 26, 06, 15:29  #7

Here, if you`re studying at an university - you have to memorize a lot - and i.e. during exams you aren`t allowed to use any books (unlike i.e. in Harvard...) You simply have to know everything out of your head. I don`t know how it looks in case of foreign students - but here you aren`t allowed to choose classes - you have to take all classes. The professors here, during the first 3 years are often extreamly strict - becaouse they want to dispose the students that aren`t performing well as well as they want to teach people discipline that is needed during the real life - the last two years are yeasier - though during that time you have to write your masters thesis.

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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 15:41  #8

Quoting: bolo, Post #6
I'm suggesting that it takes more time and effort to graduate from a Polish university than from the American one. The Polish educational system is much more strict and difficult than the American one - I learned something in the primary school in Poland while in the US they teach the same in college...


This is the result of the totally degraded highschool system in the US - an average American, who graduated highschool - and only highschool, if he wants to know anything about the world, history, or some other things, like how to repair the electrical instalation in his house, has to read a lot of books i.e. as his hobby - becaouse if he wouldn`t do that he wouldn`t know almost anything about those issues. I know a couple of such Americans - who are really smart - in my opinion they could very well study at an university - but after graduating a substandard highschool (and not having much money) they didn`t had any chance for a better life.

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Pavlos [Guest]
  Jul 26, 06, 17:44  #9

Quoting: Guest, Post #4
I could become a English teacher like IndianPolishGirl was saying, or I really don't know what else, any other ideas?

I strongly suggest you to finish your school in the US. It would probably be hard for you to accommodate to the Polish school system in such a short time. You would probably have to go to a school where English is the first language (eg. teaching college/university). But note - I used to go to such school in Poland and it is not easy - especially the language theory part where you have to learn very difficult terms. I never graduated from this school (I wanted to take two courses at the same time and had to give one up). Even if you get a job, it will most likely be not enough money for you to get comfortable living and studying. Kielce is on the East of Poland where there is the highest unemployment rate. Warsaw or Krakow would definately give you more opportunities as far as your professional life is concerned. You could become a native English speaker/tutor there (for example). I doubt you would get a lot of prospective clients in Kielce.

Either way, I wish you good luck! After the two months in Poland you will definately have a better idea of the "real world" in Poland.

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opts
  Aug 1, 06, 21:32  #10

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My boyfriend lived in the US for a year but now lives back home in Poland and I am considering living in Poland just to be with him. But the problem is what job would I get when I don't know the language. Also that I would like to go to college there. I am planning to visit there for 2 months then make my decision. Are there many Americans in Poland?


Stay in US, if you want to have a future.
Your boyfriend went back to Poland.
Perhaps, he is more special to you, than you are to him.
Open your eyes. :)


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lef
  Aug 1, 06, 22:02  #11

There are many jobs in the country, strawberry picking and work on farms,,


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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
  Aug 2, 06, 05:53  #12

Quoting: opts, Post #26
Stay in US, if you want to have a future.
Your boyfriend went back to Poland.
Perhaps, he is more special to you, than you are to him.
Open your eyes.


Ofcourse she would find a job and she would be able to attend an university if she would be able to communicate in Polish.

If not then she could get a standard job that is being offered for English speakers here - she could work as a native speaker.. or an English tourist guide (if Ukrainians can do it then I see no reason why an American wouldn`t able to do the same)

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opts
  Aug 2, 06, 07:16  #13

Quoting: lef, Post #29
Is that type of work beneath your dignity? a job is a job.



In US, illegal aliens, Mexicans and other Latin Americans do that type of work.
It is least desirable work, pay is minimal.


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lef
  Aug 3, 06, 00:55  #14

Quoting: opts, Post #34
Quoting: lef, Post #29
Is that type of work beneath your dignity? a job is a job.



In US, illegal aliens, Mexicans and other Latin Americans do that type of work.
It is least desirable work, pay is minimal.


you never know, you have to start on the bottom and work yourself up, never know being from the US, you will be a manager in a short period of time.


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FISZ
  Aug 3, 06, 09:58  #15

Quoting: lef, Post #39
In US, illegal aliens, Mexicans and other Latin Americans do that type of work.
It is least desirable work, pay is minimal.


Well, believe it or not the Mexicans that work in our farms make more money than most food preparation jobs. The average according to the AFBF(American Farm Bureau Federation) is $9.50 - $14.35 Per hr which is more than minimum wage. In Florida some illegals are making up to $20 for harvesting tobacco. But, they're the only ones that want to do this type of job. The families in Mexico are living well wile we pay for their health care when they get sick.


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JustinDT [Guest]
  Aug 10, 06, 19:11  #16

Good luck with the work permit. Seems to be the toughest part.

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lef
  Aug 19, 06, 23:58  #17

Quoting: opts, Post #46
Guess has better employment opportunities in US.



Depends where you best feel at home, strawberry picking is only an example, most people who settled in oz from poland had labouring type work, mainly because of language problems still lived a good lifestyle, their children reaped the benefits. Apart from myself very few people of polish parents here, would consider returning to poland to live pernamently.

Unfortuanately most people want a highly paid job form day 1, you have to build up to it.

There used to be a saying that goes, work in america and spend in poland that dosn't work anymore..


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lef
  Aug 21, 06, 01:23  #18

Quoting: rafik, Post #48
lef it is so nice to hear from you again.i thought that my little joke about australia putt you off that forum and u failed to see the funny side of it



Thanks rafik, thanks for your trust and support, I do get a bit feed up when I hear so much nonsense from a few people who seem to have hijacked this forum.. Nothing but there bigoted opinions seem to count.. You would think that you were living in Soviet Russian during Stalinist times or Germany in the 30's in how they respond to a different point of view.

Some peoples definition of democracy is an opportunity to make money, it should be the ability to allow somebody to speak his or her mind.

I certainly want to give polish people sound advice (as per previous posts) and am able to offer sound advice of anything to do with oz land.




Thanks rafik for showing your concerns.


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