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ANIAH
  Dec 8, 06, 05:05  #61

Quoting: YANTA, Post #55
But thats ok when your all forced into islam you can cry later. BTW alote of you can't even comment on how great multicultralism is because YOU don't live it everyday.



YANTA, it is you who is brainwashed.

As for not living in a multicultural society, I have lived in the UK for the past 30 years. ?????? What is your point? Do you not benefit from living in a multicultural society as well?? Do you not have Indian takeaways when out with your mates? Do you not appreciate the help you get from doctors and medical staff of Asian or otherwise origin?
Can you honestly say that you have never met any interesting, worthwhile people who happened not to be of British origin/white? Do you think people should be judged upon their nationality, colour etc. or rather on their personal values, intelligence, character?


The main problem I have with the BNP party is that it spreads hate and intolerance. It is basically like this: if you are white and your grandma and grandpa have been born British then you are one of us. If the answer to the above question is no then you are one of them.


BTW I also saw that article in the Daily Mail and it was 5,000 not 7,000 according to the paper. Secondly, being born in Britain does not make anyone automatically British. To have British citizenship one parent must be British and the parents must be married.
I think you will find that the overwhelming majority of these babies were born to parents whose both parents were Polish. I guess the reason they had them here rather than in Poland was because whilst living in Poland they could not afford to expand their families. Over here, they have work and they can perhaps see a future for themselves.


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dulciana
  Dec 8, 06, 10:39  #62

It's so amusing (and perhaps a little sad) to see so much "prjudice" being expressed about so many things.

Tha fact is, we are all prejudiced in some way or other, and that is because no-one can ever have he total picture or possess infinite knowledge: fear of the unknown being the end result.

Since time began people have migrated, and it is hardly a new phenomenon. How many Poles are part German, part Russian, part Slavic or part anything?

How many British people are truly English.....none perhaps?

Even the UK Royal Family is of German origin, while England itself is the product of a French invasion.

Contrary to what Hitler and the BNP (is there a difference?) proposed or propose, there is simply no such thing as a pure bred human being. Even culture is multi-lingual and multi-ethnic, and always has been.

How many supporters of the BNP would support the idea of a "Christian" country, which derives from Roman/Greek/Judaic origins, with a lot of medieval RC and Reformation influence included?

I am, of course, appalled by the idea of 7,000 baby Poles being born in the UK this year. How would I identify them, so that they can be "sent home" in due course? Do they have Eagle birth-marks, or are they the only ones who are actually delivered by migrating Storks? Perhaps they all have blond hair and blue eyes and little almond shape faces? (Sounds fun to me!) Will they automatically speak only Polish, and steal the cribs in the hospitals from British babies? Will their parents receive more or less in the way of child support? Will they go to English schools, and grow up as English teenagers, or will they live in a ghetto and steal pretty English girls (or boys). When they go to work, will they pay taxes to support only a Polish community, or will they be supporting the NHS, the economy, the elderly and British business? Will they have English friends, fall in love and be good citizens? God forbid, would any of them join the military and become a fifth column?

The simple fact is, the supporters of the BNP are almost always stupid, almost always uneducated, almost always bullies and almost unversally losers.

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ANIAH
  Dec 8, 06, 13:01  #63

no, no, no, it's 5,000 not 7,000

And yes most Polish babies are blond with blue eyes and little almond faces. But babies are just gorgeous whatever their origin.


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Hobbitual [Guest]
Edited by: Hobbitual  Dec 8, 06, 13:47  #64

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #68
And yes most Polish babies are blond with blue eyes and little almond faces. But babies are just gorgeous whatever their origin.


Babies are not programmed whatever their origin.
Their guardians (and with it their values) are what poison the these "cute babies".
In Palestine in particular, hate (not intellect or dialog by example) is top of the agenda.
Before you (or anyone else) bleats on about Israel's oppression, at least let your child be just that, before giving them a gun fresh out of nursery.

Don't worry ANIAH, your naivity/denial prevents you from understanding the stark depths regarding the mind of men.

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annamaria [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 14:31  #65

Quoting: Jasiu, Post #65
that would make them british then...


If both parents have Polish citizenship and they don't have "indefinite leave to remain", then a baby born in the UK is actually a Polish, not British subject. So no, not British, as Britain doesn't have the same law as the US, where if you are born there, you have the right to citizenship. In the UK, it is parentage that's important.

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annamaria [Guest]
  Dec 8, 06, 14:48  #66

[quote=Stupidwelsh, Post #54 ]The ?ethnic make up? has been changing since the Celts arrived in Britain, and possibly before that.

Yes, of course, however, the difference in recent years is that it is changing due to emigration as well as immigration. It used to be mainly immigration. The British are currently not very happy- they are on 42nd place in happiness stakes, according to an international study, well behind Germans, Americans, or the French. But I digress, sorry.

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dulciana
  Dec 8, 06, 15:44  #67

Quoting: annamaria, Post #72
If both parents have Polish citizenship and they don't have "indefinite leave to remain", then a baby born in the UK is actually a Polish, not British subject.


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This is true, but if Europe means anything, it doesn't really matter does it?

Europe is a great place to be on the whole, and is proving economically very strong. With more or less open borders, actual nationality is becoming less important as time goes by.

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YANTA [Guest]
Edited by: YANTA  Dec 8, 06, 19:28  #68

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #66
YANTA, it is you who is brainwashed.

As for not living in a multicultural society, I have lived in the UK for the past 30 years. ?????? What is your point? Do you not benefit from living in a multicultural society as well?? Do you not have Indian takeaways when out with your mates? Do you not appreciate the help you get from doctors and medical staff of Asian or otherwise origin?
Can you honestly say that you have never met any interesting, worthwhile people who happened not to be of British origin/white? Do you think people should be judged upon their nationality, colour etc. or rather on their personal values, intelligence, character?



Multicultralism is a failure.. think what you want. I don't benefit by haveing third worlders come here and ram their religions and cultre down my throat. I rarely see a doctor (who happens to be german) because I never get sick. I eat euro foods nothing else. Pay ATTENTION TO RUSSIAS ways. They are the future of europe. I'm glad you loving your cess-pool of britan you clearly have no pride or respect for your own culture and would rather see it changed and spat on by third world asylum seekers. In 50 years arabic will be your national language and there wont be a fish and chip restaraunt in sight. Keep on living the liberal dream it all adds up to nothing when you're social services and welfare colapse.




Quoting: ANIAH, Post #66
The main problem I have with the BNP party is that it spreads hate and intolerance. It is basically like this: if you are white and your grandma and grandpa have been born British then you are one of us. If the answer to the above question is no then you are one of them.



Oh shut up "hate and intolerance" my butt. People like you argue for things that make no sense. Even when facts are shoved in your face you choose to sheild it with the liberal sunglasses and call it "racism or fascism". "I posted facts!" , dosent matter your now a nazi!!! , "but my facts are correct" , " sorry those facts are racist"

give me a break.

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truebrit
  Dec 9, 06, 00:27  #69

Quoting: YANTA, Post #55
Goes to show just how brainwashed some of you are. The BNP is the third largest party in the UK and has elected officials


You seem very confused...the 3 largest parties in the UK are:Labour,Conservative and Liberal Democrat.You really need to educate yourself.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 04:55  #70

politics.guardian.co.uk/elections/story/0,,948032,00.html (old)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

On May 5, 2006, the results of the 2006 local elections were reported by the BBC and showed what some described as a dramatic increase for the BNP. The party presented about 350 candidates, of which 33 were initially declared to be winners: the second highest gain of any party in the elections. This more than doubled the number of seats held by the BNP (before the elections, the BNP was estimated to have held about 20 local political seats). Also noteworthy is the fact that the constituency of Barking and Dagenham became, according to many newspapers, the first council in the United Kingdom to have the BNP as the second-biggest party [21]. However, the BNP were briefly the second largest party on Burnley Council in 2003.

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 9, 06, 05:01  #71

Quoting: YANTA, Post #75
Pay ATTENTION TO RUSSIAS ways. They are the future of europe.


Dude, Russia is 20% Muslim and growing fast.


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ANIAH
  Dec 9, 06, 07:28  #72

BNP is wholly opposed to immigration and the integration of white British and non European people. What about all the white-black mixed marriages in this country and the children born of those marriages?

Let me ask you a question: what exactly is your interest in this board? Since you support BNP you must support their ideals and therefore you must be anti immigration. So you must also be anti-Poles since I am sure you are aware many Poles on this board are in the UK.

As I said before I am opposed to lumping people together on the basis of their colour, race, nationality or religion. How many white British criminals has this country had? Your jails are brimming over not with immigrants but with your own people. How can you judge people without knowing them?


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truebrit
Edited by: truebrit  Dec 9, 06, 08:55  #73

Quoting: YANTA, Post #77
However, the BNP were briefly the second largest party on Burnley Council in 2003.


So first you say that the BNP are "the 3rd biggest party in the UK" (wrong) and now you state that they were "briefly" the 2nd biggest party on Burnley council.I could quote the total number of BNP councillors compared to the other parties-then you would realise how small they are.

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Hobbitual [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 09:41  #74

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #70
Pardon???? What are you talking about, Hobbit? Too many beers on a Friday night?


No, just a failed attempt to explain anything to a "fluffy brained" woman like you

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ANIAH
  Dec 9, 06, 10:00  #75

maybe that's because you are not explaining it very well. And how do you know I am a woman? I could be a man hiding behind a woman's id just to fool you clever men out there.

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iwona
  Dec 9, 06, 10:40  #76

I read this article in daily Mail but waht was the purpose of it......o, yes, they cost so much money in NHS. But maybe shoulnd't we forget how much labour NHS already blew up on stupid projects, overpaid doctors......

These children born now in UK ( if they stay here) will be british citizens completely assimilated in next 20 years. The same happens with most european emigration.

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miranda
  Dec 9, 06, 10:45  #77

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #82

maybe that's because you are not explaining it very well. And how do you know I am a woman? I could be a man hiding behind a woman's id just to fool you clever men out there.

is it that amazing how genered some of the responses could be?????


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annamaria [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 11:05  #78

Quoting: dulciana, Post #74
Europe is a great place to be on the whole, and is proving economically very strong. With more or less open borders, actual nationality is becoming less important as time goes by.

I completely agree that Europe is the best place to be, however, I don't agree it is economically that strong. In fact, there are legitimate concerns that Europe can no longer compete with either North America or Asia, due to its developed welfare systems as well as labour cost and laws.
As for nationality, it is still important

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 12:39  #79

Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #78
Dude, Russia is 20% Muslim and growing fast.



WRONG. Nationalism is on the rise. Go watch some russian vids there are around 5000 skinheads in moscow alone. People are getting murdered and beaten everyday on the streets. CNN did a documentry on it. Also they just passed a law and banned all foriegners from retail..

news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1990400.ece

"Vyacheslav Postavnin was quoted yesterday as saying that it was a good idea to keep the numbers of non-Russians in any given region below 20 per cent of the overall population. "If the norm is exceeded, it will make the indigenous population feel uncomfortable. As a rule people who come to such districts do not assimilate. They begin living by their own rules," he said.

kudos to russia! they are not allowing to be a stranger in there own homelands. If only the rest of europe had the honour.


me anti polish? yeah thats it. I'm half polish myself and carry a polish surname i must hate myself and my family , idiot.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 12:41  #80

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #79
As I said before I am opposed to lumping people together on the basis of their colour, race, nationality or religion. How many white British criminals has this country had? Your jails are brimming over not with immigrants but with your own people. How can you judge people without knowing them?



Acutally the jails here are full of blacks if not 90% as well as the united states. Don't try to argue that jails are full of caucasians because you will loose that battle and fast. What you're purpose here? Are you polish? do you take a intrest in polish culture?

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ANIAH
  Dec 9, 06, 13:19  #81

Well if you are half Polish that makes one of your parents an immigrant and you not 100% British so what are you going to do? Leave Britain? How come your culture is OK but not other immigrants?


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ANIAH
  Dec 9, 06, 13:20  #82

Yes I am 100% Polish.


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Grzegorz_
  Dec 9, 06, 13:20  #83

Quoting: YANTA, Post #86
WRONG.


No... Check statistics.


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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 13:24  #84

Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #90
No... Check statistics.



I dont doubt the stats but russians seems to be doing something about it. ANIAH I do not live in britan. I take an intrest in politics which is why I talk about the BNP. I think in small groups its ok to move around. But once the governments allow too many and it makes the native population feel uncomfterable then it should stop. Charity starts at home. I don't agree with the polish takeover of ireland its going to cause major problems.

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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 13:28  #85

Quoting: ANIAH, Post #88
How come your culture is OK but not other immigrants?


In terms of my culture being ok is the fact that we become a part of a country we move to and dont ram islam ,etc down other peoples throats. The fact that europeans have built everything says alote. Taiwan was even colonised by europeans. North africa once had a large white population. All farms were confinscated and handed back to natives of african and it all went to ****. We as euros made the western world if the third world couldent make there own countries better they sertainly can't make ours. Theres a reason why there countries look the way they do.

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 9, 06, 13:38  #86

Quoting: YANTA, Post #91
I dont doubt the stats but russians seems to be doing something about it.


What are they doing ? Skinheads beat them on the streets ? And how is that going to "help" ?


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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 13:42  #87

Perhaps you should have read the article I posted. You claim to be a nationalist. Don't envy the russian. Learn from them. There are nationalists deep in the government there too.

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miranda
  Dec 9, 06, 13:42  #88

YANTA - you are a paranoid racist. Stop preaching here.


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YANTA [Guest]
  Dec 9, 06, 13:44  #89

Quoting: miranda, Post #95
YANTA - you are a paranoid racist. Stop preaching here.



If i am racist why dont you tear down my posts and show me what is untrue?? perhaps you are the racist.

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alf [Guest]
  Dec 11, 06, 12:33  #90

let go mate ,

look like this web is use for more polish living in america and canada than polish in europa .
but today in a peaper from england said one headline about polish people taking job from the english people and the english are getting sack for that ....

is this news racist?
not positive?

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