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alexander007
  Oct 31, 07, 04:01  #121

I don't care who comes here (UK), as long as they pay their way what’s the big deal, if I have to ask anything, and this goes for many minorities in this country, mix with the natives more, I love meeting foreign people, I love hearing their stories and learning about their culture, the problem is meeting them, everyone seems to stay in their own groups of nationalities, I hardly call this country successful in multiculturalism when there seems to be a serous lack of real integration into our society from many minorities living in this country.


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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:43  #122

Quoting: Giles
I could possibly understand fears about non-European immigration into the UK, citing cultural differences and lack of integration.


People in the commonwealth all have more in common with each other than with the Poles..

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:44  #123

Quoting: Giles
I'm going to be in Poland.
Religion is my pet hatred.


Isnt Poland majority Catholic?

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:48  #124

Quoting: Giles
So are the Polish more or less racist than anyone else? I doubt it. It is important to realise that the catholic church encourages nationalistic passions


Hmmm.. And you think the problem is with the church.. Isnt the real issue with the people that believe the BS?

Quoting: Giles
and these can be crudely reconstructed as racist attitudes, they are not, they are political will being exercised through the ignorance of the masses for political gain, they are not true racist values.


They are racist and even more importantly, hypocritical.. The most amazing thing is that most people cant see this.. "Religion is a force for peace, love and understanding.. " apparently..

lol!

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:49  #125

Quoting: alexander007
there seems to be a serous lack of real integration into our society from many minorities living in this country.


Have you been to a college or university in one of the larger mixed cities?

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:51  #126

Quoting: ola123
There is no place for muslims arabs in Europe.


Dont be stupid! A lot of them have been in Europe/EU a lot longer than "you"..

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:54  #127

Quoting: YANTA
Are you prepared to loose your culture? , loose your generations of traditions to a multicultural cess-pool?


Another knob..

New flash!!! You have already "lost" your culture..

Cultures change over time.. Or are you telling me that you live like a 1st century Pole/Brit/European?

What you lack is perspective..

Or maybe you do live in a mud hut?

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 04:57  #128

Quoting: dulciana
Tha fact is, we are all prejudiced in some way or other


The words of a racist (and I dont use that word lightly)

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 05:02  #129

Quoting: Sandy
There is not a mass anti polish sentiment, apart from English builders most people don't mind poles.

There is however a huge anti muslim sentiment. There are a lot of English people leaving the UK because they don't agree with the governments intergration of Islam and Islamic religion into the English education system.

Most schools now teach Islam in England and it is compulsory for all english people to learn about Muslims and their religon. As it's now part of the education system, families are emigrating to Australia and English settlements in Spain as multiculturalism is not forced there, it's an option.

It was a big issue 2 years ago, the continue migration is all based on the muslim issue.

I process emigration forms for our local government office and migrants have to fill out a form stating there reason for leaving, they always rant about the force muslim intergration into the education system.


Not really tuning the other cheek is it?

More ballacks..

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 05:07  #130

Quoting: ShelleyS
unlike the jamacans


Jamaicans..?? Lordy, lordy..

Have a butchers.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carribean

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 05:08  #131

Quoting: ANIAH
And yes most Polish babies are blond with blue eyes and little almond faces


Is that good??

IMO 99.999% of babies are prune faced and ugly..

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RalphyCC
  Oct 31, 07, 05:29  #132

Do you all know whats ironic?

Man will commit many atrocities in the name of a God, often missinterpretating his religion in order to condone his actions, and yet............
Mankind invented the religions in the first place!

Religion is not the problem,
Ethnicity is not the problem,
Race, colour & creed are not the problems.

MANKIND IS THE PROBLEM!

Our silly superstitious fear of anything/one different, & our need to better ourselves by stomping all over them.

Childish or what? we consider ourselves intelligent & civilised, & yet we still have 90% cave-dweller's emotions.

IN PARTICULAR MANKINDS EMOTIONS ARE THE CATALIST FOR DESTRUCTIVE PROBLEMS!

Rant over.


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Talos
  Oct 31, 07, 05:45  #133

Quoting: Giles
I'm really bored of these ignorant little Englanders, who have no concept of how economies function, who rant and rave about


Hey you are correct in this statement.....I am British / Italian...i live in Poland but work in the UK....I would never come back here to live full time....freedom of speach has gone...this is a nanny state....i hate Great Britian....maybe all poles should just come here take the money that british people offer for as long as they can then all leave together....this would kill britian.....:)

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RalphyCC
  Oct 31, 07, 05:57  #134

Quoting: Talos
....i hate Great Britian....

See what I meen? :}


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Grzegorz_
  Oct 31, 07, 06:04  #135

IdW, you are chaotic. Could you explain in one post what your point is ?


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ShelleyS
  Oct 31, 07, 06:14  #136

Quoting: Talos
i live in Poland but work in the UK


Quoting: Talos
....i hate Great Britian


Quoting: Talos
this would kill britian


hmmm. another twat I see

Quoting: Talos
I am British / Italian...


finocchio


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BubbaWoo
  Oct 31, 07, 07:48  #137

Quoting: IdW
Quoting: dulciana
Tha fact is, we are all prejudiced in some way or other

The words of a racist (and I dont use that word lightly)


we are ALL prejudice in one way or another, regardless of how hard some of us find this to accept

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Yogibear
  Oct 31, 07, 09:11  #138

Quoting: ShelleyS


And the reason they do is because they dont integrate and send home for a new wife or husband...

.


The Asians I know must be the exception to the rule.


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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 09:36  #139

Quoting: BubbaWoo
we are ALL prejudice in one way or another, regardless of how hard some of us find this to accept


I am not..

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IdW
  Oct 31, 07, 09:39  #140

Quoting: Grzegorz_
IdW, you are chaotic. Could you explain in one post what your point is ?


Lots of different responses to different people/posts..

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BubbaWoo
  Oct 31, 07, 18:48  #141

Quoting: IdW
I am not..


youre obviously finding it hard to accept

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Patrycja19
  Oct 31, 07, 18:53  #142

Quoting: IdW
IMO 99.999% of babies are prune faced and ugly..


yes and you were one of them however many years ago when you were born and
maybe thats the reason the dr dropped you!


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Patrycja19
  Oct 31, 07, 18:58  #143

Quoting: Grzegorz_
IdW, you are chaotic. Could you explain in one post what your point is ?


agree.. there is no constructive debate..ANOTHER TROLL.


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Matyjasz
  Oct 31, 07, 20:21  #144

Quoting: RalphyCC
Religion is not the problem,
Ethnicity is not the problem,
Race, colour & creed are not the problems.

MANKIND IS THE PROBLEM!

Our silly superstitious fear of anything/one different, & our need to better ourselves by stomping all over them.

Childish or what? we consider ourselves intelligent & civilised, & yet we still have 90% cave-dweller's emotions.

IN PARTICULAR MANKINDS EMOTIONS ARE THE CATALIST FOR DESTRUCTIVE PROBLEMS!

Rant over.



Quoting: BubbaWoo

we are ALL prejudice in one way or another, regardless of how hard some of us find this to accept


Finally, some words of wisdome on this forum. :)


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_Sofi_ [Guest]
Edited by: _Sofi_  Oct 31, 07, 20:40  #145

Quoting: BubbaWoo
we are ALL prejudice in one way or another, regardless of how hard some of us find this to accept

yes..I don't like pit-bull dogs, nor rottweillers, nor dobermans. I think they should be let out into the wild far away from people...

[partially j/k...]

that is one of my prejudiced views.

Quoting: RalphyCC
yet we still have 90% cave-dweller's emotions.

The id often wins in influence over the ego... :) [the super-ego...I'd like to think it triumphs now and again]

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Patrycja19
  Oct 31, 07, 20:45  #146

Quoting: _Sofi_
I don't like pit-bull dos nor rottweillers nor dobermans.


has nothing to do with prejudiced.. lets say they are just like any othe breed of dog
with good care and attention and love.. then would you think or like them?

I agree with you on one part. its the cirrculation of known facts which make the hype
bigger and before ya know it , people form opinions and never experienced these
types of dogs.. so Its the same with people.. we cant form opinions based on hype.


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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Oct 31, 07, 20:55  #147

yes hehe..I was making the silly comparison with dogs because I'd prefer to than actually giving a real prejudice :)

But with a doberman - that is my point I guess. I've never even personally heard/read anything to make me perceive them as I do, it is simply a blind prejudice I hold.

I try to judge slightly differently when it comes to people. A little more consideration and openness. I hope.

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Patrycja19
  Oct 31, 07, 21:01  #148

Quoting: _Sofi_
I try to judge slightly differently when it comes to people. A little more consideration and openness. I hope.


me too :)

its difficult I do agree. things we see on tv, hear, read about, make it extremely hard
to be completely open minded when in the back of your mind you know things and
worry that you might be standing next to a time bomb..

that is a good way to show it though ( above post with dogs)..

but the only thing we have to remember is.. any animal is capable of turning on you
at any given moment even in the deepest times of trust.


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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Oct 31, 07, 21:12  #149

Quoting: Patrycja19
its difficult I do agree.

Not too much. I try to base my opinions on a person individually. I have friends of many races and feel we are all equal. I guess I'm trying not to be the one to say 'I don't have any prejudice' but I can't think of any I consciously hold at present.

In growing up, under the influence of family and friends, prejudices had been passed onto me and it took a while for me to see for myself how wrong it was. But when the ages of sense came [as I like to believe they did a while ago] I learned for myself that we are all the same, as you say:
Quoting: Patrycja19
any animal is capable of turning on you
at any given moment even in the deepest times of trust.
I saw that what I had been brought up to think was not what I wanted to think as a person - it grated at my conscience and at my own developing sense of right and wrong.

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Patrycja19
  Oct 31, 07, 21:16  #150

Quoting: _Sofi_
I saw that what I had been brought up to think was not what I wanted to think as a person - it grated at my conscience and at my own developing sense of right and wrong.


same here.. it was mostly my dad, but also his father who had these views.

I knew they were wrong..it is what were taught.. because as babies we dont know
anything about color or different skin until we are older and taught it.


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