Does anyone still believe in no sex before marriage?

Ouch that is harsh, were you there when this happened, or was she out without you?

Not true!

I belive horses, pigs and sheep get married.
Goats, aardvarks and donkeys don't believe in it.

OH I understand now. So you had a cute little Ewe huh?

I think I'd die first.

He started trying to play footsie with her while I was there.
I told him she was my girl, but he ignored this.
I gave him a kick, but he wouldn't pay attention.
I asked her if she wanted to leave.
She said no.
I told her I WAS going to leave.
It was a bizarre situation. She had been after me for months.
I finally 'got' her and she let me slip through her fingers for a random bloke who just enjoyed the chase.
Flip her! Stupid ----. (There is no word)

Wow, sorry to hear that man, but it sounds like at least that you found out early that she wasn't good for you.

We had flings on two occasions, a couple of years apart.
She was beautiful, but shy.
But she was too shy and found it hard to speak her mind.
I prefer women who speak their minds
(maybe even women who are a bit loud - at least they speak their minds!)

Some guys can be very blunt. Once while on a date, another guy kept trying to flirt with me right infront of my date. He even followed me to the bathroom & slipped me his phone number. I think he was overly persistent.

Wow, some guys are just so cocky and confident. Not that I am not confident but I would show some respect and never try to hit on a woman with another man.

I used to be so shy, I went for years without so much as a date.
I had to learn confidence. I thought that meeting a girl who was quite shy would be a good match. WRONG!
The best thing I ever did was learning to take rejection well.
I don't understand women who fall for bullsh!t.
Surely anyone can see through it.
Be honest, be yourself.
Some cocky little sh!t will still manage to lure a girl away from you by claiming he's God's gift.
She'll end up feeling stupid when she sees his true colours, and you've already given up on her as a waste of time.

lol. Not a husband. A bad lover. I was responding to the comment someone made about not wanting a bad lover. They said that the reason they sleep around is because they have to, in order to find a good lover. But no woman wants a bad lover and yet not all of them sleep around.



but despite their shyness, it shows. It's hard to put it into words but it's not difficult to pick up on it.

That's so true. I had a guy try to kiss me at a party when I went into another room, even though he knew my boyfriend was there, in the next room. I turned away and he got the side of my face. I never told my boyfriend.

I've witnessed this first-hand as well.. Where men will pursue a woman that is taken..
as if competition is what drives these men to attraction.

Like as if you where trying to hitch-up with a man, and he is the kind of guy that is not interested unless "competition" is concerned..

With sex before marriage, at times I have found that it can be hard for couples.. especially if they are both highly magnetic to each-other sexually.. it's a huge temptation and tease.. "frustration to a maximum" if one of them are loyal in morals to "marriage before sex"..

Quoting: witek
body language can decieve and the most shy person can be a sex maniac in bed.

shewolf Wrote:
"but despite their shyness, it shows. It's hard to put it into words but it's not difficult to pick up on it."
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It's true, allot of men / women are mistaken many-times, due of their "shyness" in the past towards the opposite-sex.. People didn't think they would be wonderful in bed..

It is ironic, and silghtly-funny to me; that people do-not think "shy-people" are the sensual-type or "hot under the cover-lovers."
I think of it as a Vail, or cover over something that is in "hiding":.. you can't see it, until it's lifted-up in plain-sight.

It's like Ludacris says "A lady in the streets, but a freak in the sheets."

Every man's dream... innit.

What's his number? I'll call him up O.o

lol. you're so bad. we broke up some time ago.

it shall not stop svengoola, me thinks.

going back to the original question, yes, I believe in waiting until marriage. Abstintence before marriage, total fidelity after.

and I also believe marriage is more then a piece of paper.

It's a commitment. It shows love. It shows faith that you can make it. It's soo many things.

as for the comments to a rotten wedding night as virgins... well, one of the most awesome things in life is, growing together as husband and wife and learning together and building that very personal and significant relationship together.

I too believe in abstinence before marriage, and total fidelity after. it's an awesome gift of love you give to that one special person. it's an act of being unselfish, waiting for the one you will marry.

There's still a difference between wayward infidelity and a little bit of try before you buy.
Maybe that's a bad analogy!

This concept of honoring one another with the gift of your virginity only works if BOTH males and females prize virginity in the same way. And if their society does the same.

Unfortunately, in almost all the religions and societies that steadfastly demand and stress virginity, past and present, it is the loss of virginity of the female only that they guard against and its loss in her only, that they legislate and punish.

I agree, marriage should take both partners off the auction block, as far as sex with others is concerned.

But you know, saving your virginity for a man who turns out not to be a virgin himself, is like casting pearls before swine. Or, less dramatically, is a case of valuing yourself less than he should value you.

We have enough trouble as thinking and ambitious women in this world, without THAT particular bit of inequality being demanded of us, too.

Some religions ( Mormons, Catholics, Muslims, Jews) have stated that a woman must die defending her virginity from a rapist, that going to heaven as a virgin is an honor to her. Death as a virgin is much preferable to being "allowed" to live as a supposedly besmirched woman.

And this is "honor"?

As for saving your virginity for your husband or wife, that's great if you value this concept. And I truly mean that---as long as BOTH of you are virgins on your wedding night, not just the female part of the couple.

This sex before marriage thing is not "new", or a sign of debauchery in the masses, or an indicator of the coming apocalypse.

Sex before marriage always did occur. Check the stats for pioneer and Pilgrim brides---upwards of 30% were already pregnant at the altar. Many more had "done the deed" without becoming pregnant, when they married.

People don't change much, because essentially, their biology doesn't change.

It is a RARE person, male or woman, who doesn't engage in sex before marriage.

No one religion or faith has a lock on those who manage it.

Being able to save it for your intended doesn't mean you're more worthy or holy in the eyes of God, either. Your other worldly sins are being recorded just the same--and many of them are probably much more serious in His eyes, than this.

Refraining from sex before marriage wasn't one of the Ten Commandments.

Refraining from adultery was.

I guess He felt that monogamy after marriage was good, but didn't necessarily feel that sex before marriage was bad.

I'm just sayin'.

I think the question was about sex before marriage and not exactly virginity. I think virginity is whole other topic....



it's not as rare as you think. You're probably just hanging around with a different crowd.



From what I remember, God called women "wh*res" because they had sex when they weren't married. And he would destroy them and the men who had slept with them. (in the Bible). I know the original question wasn't about religion but I thought I would point that out since you made that comment. Sorry everyone.

Poland is a land full of virgins.

I commend both of you girls, your decision is not an easy one to keep, I hope you both can keep it if that is what you truly want, and that you will both one day find a man to make you happy.

That being said, speaking from experience, I had only ever had sex with my ex-wife, even though we did have sex before marriage, and after being together for seven years the curiosity of being with another woman was horrible, it was a curse, always in the back of my mind. And still, I was faithful, and she cheated on me. That amongst other things was the reason for our divorce. Since then I have been with other women, and now I am with someone so completely special, and I know I can be happy being with her and only her, and that I will never again have that horrible curiosity.



Every country is, they're called children. Get a life.

bookrat: my faith prizes chasity before marriage on the part of both man and woman.

I know of no official Mormon church doctrine that says a woman must defend herself to death in the case of rape.
We are taught that it's abstinance before marriage, total fidelity after. For both man and woman.

I beg to differ on sex before marriage not being in the commandments. Generally people think it's just adultery, but in studies I've read, it's actually "thou shalt not commit adultery nor anything like unto it." Also, in the OT God forbids an assortment of sexual sins.

smooth_jazz: I did find a husband. Although raised to "taste the milk before buying the cow", he honored my moral beliefs.

I'm sorry that you had a cheating wife.

Surely there are still people like that and unless they both want it and feel happy this way there is nothing wrong with such attitude

Absolutely, I agree with you completely.

"Also far-reaching is the effect of loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is absolutely no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
Mormon President Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference, Ensign, November 1980