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Is there anything worse than Polish rap?


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Puzzler
  Jul 12, 07, 19:01  #91

Yeah, some of the rappers are brilliant, e.g. Public Enemy, or Snoop, or even 50 Cents.

Their music will survive.

 
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Puzzler
  Jul 12, 07, 19:17  #92

But to answer the question popped oh so boldly by boleslav - yes, in my opinion there's at least one thing worse than Polish rap.

It's boleslav's posts.
:)

 
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dannyboy
  Jul 12, 07, 20:01  #93

Quoting: rachvt
English rap isn't always so bad, is it? I don't think so.
Danny you from Ireland, are there any Irish rap groups you'd like to recommend?
(Hope its not that "Spiral" guy from Big Brother LOL! )


LOL :)

Sorry I've nothing to recommend, I lost touch with the rap scene a few years ago at this stage, more into Global Underground these days,

 
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Michael_31
  Jul 15, 07, 05:08  #94

Having listened to the Russian hip hop clip attached a few posts back, Im gonna have to listen to some Run DMC to sooth my ears :)

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 15, 07, 06:34  #95

i just got given the new jazzmatazz album with guru... as good as he always was!

if you want to understand what real hip hop is all about then give it a listen

 
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ola123 [Guest]
  Jul 15, 07, 14:00  #96

Hold on a minute.

Polish rap is bad????????????WHAT

It is just brilliand and I love it, of all raps in the world polish is the best one. Rhymes, words, music all is brilliant and they actually can talk/sign about something else, more deep than just woman and crime :/

Just listen to this:

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rachvt
Edited by: rachvt  Jul 15, 07, 20:57  #97

@joepilsudski : You think you can slag off my favourite musicians and get away with it by proclaiming your admiration for old greats like hendrix et al? Forget it dude. It takes more courage for someone to admit their liking for modern bands which are not yet considered legends or old-time greats. Anyone can say they like Miles Davis or The Who and get away sounding like music connoiseurs. But for someone who says they like the Beastie Boys, Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, or any other modern band... oh be prepared to get slagged off by self-righteous smart-asses all round. Its an old trick, but I know it.

You write in a fuzzy roundabout way, embellishing your sentences with flowery terms and place annoying apostrophes around words which you are incapable of expressing with proper vocabulary. In the end you just sound like someone who hadn't got a proper education - but then again, you'll probably explain it away as "because you don't want a proper education because its all institutionalised and you hate institutions, blah blah blah"... You sound like one who's learnt how to piece sentences together using random phrases picked up from reading aldous huxley, kafka, etc. over the years. Damn its not even worth wasting time on a discussion with you. Its like listening to a broken record. Over and over. You are the one who sounds most like a rap record. And I mean rap as in the RAP that most people understand it to be - not as in your silly classifications as "early days rap" or "modern commercialised crap rap blah blah"...

And by the way, please don't try and patronise me whilst slagging my musical preferences off at the same time. So frickin' obvious. Really. Your flowery words have not eluded me. Last of all, I don't doubt that you don't at least know half of what you are going on about, but for goodness sake, stop trying to appear smarter than you really are. Its really pretentious - and I'm sure for someone like you, being pretentious is the last thing you'll want to be labelled as. Here's a tip for you (not that I think you'd ever pick it up) : There's nothing worse than an expert who thinks he's an expert.

 
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Osiedle_Ruda [Guest]
  Jul 16, 07, 11:05  #98

Have any of you heard any Polish grime MCs? I used to be on some next forum a few years ago, and someone once posted up some sessions from Radio Kielce, MCing over UK Grime instrumentals.

I was shocked to find that:
(a) the MCs were actually quite good, and
(b) that grime MCing in Polish actually sounded OK.

I'd never make an MC (though I was a pretty good DJ once :) ) but I was wandering around Warszawa with my MP3 player on a few weeks ago, translating grime lyrics into Polish in my head.

Imagine lines like "Come to da ends and I'll draw for the strap" or "ur gash, I already laid it", translated into in Polish, and you'll get my drift. :D

 
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Reichpapers
  Jul 16, 07, 13:22  #99

The musical aspect of rap is not a problem. Everybody is entitled to listen to whatever they choose. Some may think it is terrible, some may think it is not. Hell, some people like music box tunes. Where the problem does lay is in the image of rap. There is an odd phenomenon. For some reason, some of the folks who listen to Rap have to start dressing funny. They sag their pants. Loose the ability to center the bill of their hats on their heads. They start wearing shirts significantly larger than their body frame and feel the need to wear an excessive amount of gold. Their speech alters too. They start talking like they grew up in the ghetto (even if they were raised in the suburbs). They start thinking that the man is trying to keep them down. They start viewing their music as an expression of that depressed life. It’s as if the image has to come with the music. So the question is…what came first? Did you think rap was ‘da-bomb’ and next moved on to dressing and acting funny? Or did you start dressing and acting funny, then felt the music came hand in hand with your new image…so you started listening to it? The cultural phenomenon that has swept the world is not a productive one. It will entertain you, no argument. You will like listening to it. Sadly, the message it brings is setting back our communities. Counter productivity sells, so it’s here to stay.

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:15  #100

Quoting: ola123
Hold on a minute.

Polish rap is bad????????????WHAT

Just listen to this:



 

 
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sledz ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 16, 07, 17:17  #101

that outta win a grammy:)

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:18  #102

you like...?

check out the downloads on their website - eastwestrockers.com - from wroclaw

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 16, 07, 17:19  #103

please please please give me a break polish rap are you guys serious???!!!!!!

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:20  #104

did you listen to it?

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 16, 07, 17:20  #105

Quoting: tornado2007
please please please give me a break polish rap are you guys serious???!!!!!!

Seems so:) What PL hip hop have you heard?

 
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sledz ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 16, 07, 17:20  #106

its different thats for sure...I`ve heard alot worse

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 16, 07, 17:21  #107

Quoting: sledz
I`ve heard alot worse

like 80% of American rap? :)

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:21  #108

the live music i hear in poland is some of the best anywhere - but i like this type of music...

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 16, 07, 17:21  #109

ok guys lets be serious about this for one second, POLISH RAP!!!!!. If it was that good it would be mainstream by now, or one of these guys would have tried to break the UK or America for example

 
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Zgubiony
Edited by: Zgubiony  Jul 16, 07, 17:23  #110

Quoting: tornado2007
If it was that good it would be mainstream by now

Mainstream to who? They rap in Polish. Maybe if Americans understood, than it would be listened to in the US. Not everyone in Poland speaks English.

And most American mainstream is rubbish. Underground hip hop is where its at.

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:25  #111

the live jamming at papryka on a wednesday night is fantastic and should be filmed for others to share - you never know who will turn up... this week Leszek Możdżer made a suprise performance and it went on till the late early hours

 
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tornado2007
  Jul 16, 07, 17:25  #112

I understand that mate, i'm not naive to the fact that all polish speak English, i'm also not an imperialist, not all the world should understand or have to speak English.

So point taken and noted :), however i'm willing to bet it sounds a bit of a shambles LOL

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 16, 07, 17:27  #113

Quoting: tornado2007
i'm not naive to the fact that all polish speak English

Sorry, wasn't trying to suggest. Just stating :)
Quoting: tornado2007
however i'm willing to bet it sounds a bit of a shambles LOL

It's actually nice to listen to and flows well. MAybe you should give it a try.

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:30  #114

the live jamming at papryka on a wednesday night is fantastic and should be filmed for others to share - you never know who will turn up... this week Leszek Możdżer made a suprise performance and it went on till the late early hours

 
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BubbaWoo
  Jul 16, 07, 17:31  #115

deja vu

 
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Reichpapers
  Jul 16, 07, 18:15  #116

OK, I'm suprised no one attacked my post. I am also suprised by the Polish rapper in the You Tube video....Though I despise Rap, I can recognize what is good and what isn't. He has an interesting look and didn't sound that bad....now I feel sick for saying it.

 
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sledz ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 16, 07, 19:01  #117

Quoting: Zgubiony
And most American mainstream is rubbish. Underground hip hop is where its at.

Quoting: BubbaWoo
did you listen to it?

ya, Its sounds better than that eniemen guy, even though I dont like rap
they sound pretty good

 
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rachvt
  Jul 16, 07, 20:04  #118

Quoting: dannyboy
Sorry I've nothing to recommend, I lost touch with the rap scene a few years ago at this stage, more into Global Underground these days,


Is that more like household-name DJs like Sasha etc.? Kinda like house music?? Yea I was quite into house music a few years ago going to see Tiesto, Eddie Halliwell, Judge Jules, etc. Now not so into dance parties, but I would still prefer listening to this music than psychedelic trance.

 
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shopgirl
Edited by: shopgirl  Jul 16, 07, 21:00  #119

rap is crap on tap :)


just kiddin'

liked the ryhme :)

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 17, 07, 07:48  #120

Quoting: rachvt
Judge Jules

Yoji Biomehanika :) Really nice live!

 
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