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babylon2007Threads: 5 Posts: 17 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 31, 07, 12:57 / #
We have hundreds of thousands of Polish people in Ireland. They are all very welcome and we are delighted they are here. So guys, why not a "Polonia - Ireland" section? Ireland is not part of the UK, it is a separate country. It has been a Republic now for a long time. Like Poland, our country has struggled for many years to be independent and to take control of our own destiny. So please Mr. Administrator, give us our own section for the thousands of Polish people that are in Ireland and respect us as our own sovereign country.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Edited by: Admin Oct 31, 07, 13:04 / #
But according to Wikipedia there are only about 63K of Poles living in Ireland. Compared to other countries, that's not that many. If we wanted to list all countries the page would be very long.... Admin

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,204 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Oct 31, 07, 13:48 / #
Maybe make that: Polonia - UK and Ireland.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Oct 31, 07, 13:50 / #
What about Scotland and Wales then? :)

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,704 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 13:52 / #
Quoting: Admin What about Scotland and Wales then? :) part of the UK

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,204 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 31, 07, 13:52 / #
Quoting: Admin What about Scotland and Wales then? :) They are part of UK :P

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Oct 31, 07, 13:52 / #
So "UK" should cover them all I guess..

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,204 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 31, 07, 13:55 / #
Quoting: Admin So "UK" should cover them all I guess.. Babylon means the republic of Ireland. Northern Ireland is a part of UK. The republic of Ireland is a different country.

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	Oct 31, 07, 13:55 / #
Quoting: Admin But according to Wikipedia there are only about 63K of Poles living in Ireland. Compared to other countries, that's not that many. If we wanted to list all countries the page would be very long.... Admin So wot...Wikipedia...is always correct? Our small county has approx 1600 Polish people.....if we extrapolate that to the whole of the Island.......there are around....163,000........!!! Compared to the UK......and per head of population, Ireland proportionally, has welcomed 20 times that the UK has.........so you are not comparing like with like! I think a Polonia-Ireland section is both warranted......and fair.

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,704 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 13:56 / #
Just for admins record..Northern Ireland is part of the UK as well ;)

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:00 / #
But not of Great Britain...

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:05 / #
Groups of islands often have a name with the suffix -nesia. My favourite example is Macaronesia (Madeira, Azores, Canaries). I do not know of such a name for this northwest corner of Europe that keeps everyone in Britain and Ireland happy.

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,704 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 14:06 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll But not of Great Britain... noone is disputing this. :) It has the same money , same taxes and same Queen.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:07 / #
Quoting: Vincent noone is disputing this. :) It has the same money , same taxes and same Queen. I know :) I was merely pointing out that it is part of the UK but not GB (some people may not have known this and it may have interested them :)

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:08 / #
If a section was called 'Polonia - Ireland', would it show up in web-searches and thererfore possibly bring more people in?

babylon2007Threads: 5 Posts: 17 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:11 / #
Other sources would estimate that there are more like 100k Polish living in Ireland. From being in Poland, there is a lot of interest from Polish about living and working in Ireland. Scotland, England, Wales make up the United Kingdom. The Republic of Ireland is a totally separate country. You might as well be saying the "USA & Ireland". Or similarly, it would be like including Poland under a heading for Germany which I dont think would go down very well. Both are sovereign and independent countries. If we cannot have our own section, include us in Other Countries, if you really have to. But please not part of the UK. This is just incorrect. But I hope you will give us a separate section for Ireland. Can I also recommend some good websites for Polish interested in Ireland, vaveeva.com and myireland.pl.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:16 / #
Quoting: babylon2007 Scotland, England, Wales make up the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - that's the United Kingdom. You listed the parts of Great Britain.

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,704 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 14:22 / #
Quoting: osiol and Northern Ireland - that's the United Kingdom. You listed the parts of Great Britain. looks like he could do with an atlas :)

babylon2007Threads: 5 Posts: 17 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:22 / #
Quoting: osiol If a section was called 'Polonia - Ireland', would it show up in web-searches and thererfore possibly bring more people in? You are right. That is a very good point.

_Sofi_	Oct 31, 07, 14:29 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_ Polonia - UK and Ireland. sounds most sensible so far

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:33 / #
Polonia - Northamptonshire Polonia - Caithness & Sutherland Polonia - Clackmannanshire Polonia - County Mayo Polonia - St. Kilda The least sensible so far.

_Sofi_	Oct 31, 07, 14:34 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll I was merely pointing out that it is part of the UK but not GB (some people may not have known this and it may have interested them :) I'd be more interested to know why not. Anyone know?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Edited by: PolskaDoll Oct 31, 07, 14:50 / #
Great Britain is only the name of an island now (compromsing of Scotland/England/Wales), within the United Kingdom (which of course includes Northern Ireland). Originally Scotland/England were the only members Great Britain. It became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland somewhere along the line and then the United Kingdom of Great Britain of Northern Ireland when the Republic of Ireland split away (dates fail me). Therefore, it's not part of GB because GB is just an island within a country - really :)

babylon2007Threads: 5 Posts: 17 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 31, 07, 14:55 / #
I dont want to make a big deal about this. Its just that I believe in respecting other peoples and their cultures and traditions. In Ireland, we welcome hundreds of thousands of immigrants in last few years when other countries did not open their borders. I am just asking that the Republic of Ireland be given the respect it deserves like any other country and not including it in a category for UK which is wrong. I believe the people of Ireland have earned the right to be recognised. Imagine the following heading: Polonia Germany - Including discussions on UK, Poland and Germany Polonia USA - Including discussions on USA & Canada A lot of people would not be very happy with that. Similarly, as an Irishman, I think Ireland should be represented correctly in the forum and to make the relevant change is only fair and appropriate. Mr. Administrator, I ask you to review again and to please make appropriate changes.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Oct 31, 07, 16:20 / #
So what is the most correct suggestion? Polonia UK and Ireland? Hmm..

WroclawThreads: 76 Posts: 7,418 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 16:23 / #
Quoting: Admin Polonia UK and Ireland Yes

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Oct 31, 07, 16:26 / #
Quoting: Admin So what is the most correct suggestion? For me it would be Quoting: babylon2007 "Polonia - Ireland"

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Oct 31, 07, 16:28 / #
Quoting: szkotja2007 For me it would be Quoting: babylon2007 "Polonia - Ireland" So remove Polonia - UK? :)

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,704 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 31, 07, 16:30 / #
Quoting: Wroclaw Quoting: Admin Polonia UK and Ireland Iwould say that this one, would make sense.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 31, 07, 16:30 / #
Quoting: Admin So remove Polonia - UK? :) Does the UK really exist? There is no king. It is the UQ.

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