Translation Titles and Their Content

Quoting: Admin

Usually the person who requests a translation doesn't know the text (if s/he knew it, s/he wouldn't need it translated), so it would be unreasonable to require them to translate the text first just to write a title in English ;).

Admin

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 17:07 / #
Why is it necessary, when posting in the translation part of the forum, to include the words 'translate' or 'Polish' in the topic title? Thanks PD :)

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 17:11 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll Why is it necessary, when posting in the translation part of the forum, to include the words 'translate' or 'Polish' in the topic title? Where did take this information from? Admin

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 14, 07, 17:13 / #
My last translation thread was retitled to include the words "Please translate"

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 17:14 / #
Quoting: osiol My last translation thread was retitled to include the words "Please translate" I wouldn't think "please translate" is necessary.. Admin

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 17:18 / #
Quoting: Admin Where did take this information from? Quoting: osiol My last translation thread was retitled to include the words "Please translate" So was mine. Quoting: Admin wouldn't think "please translate" is necessary.. Me neither - or the word Polish. This is my point. This is a Polish forum so surely people know I want something written in English translated into Polish. Especially in the translation forum. I'm not complaining, I just wanted to know that if posting in the translation forum in future, I need to have the words 'translate' and 'Polish' in the title. :)

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 17:19 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll I'm not complaining, I just wanted to know that if posting in the translation forum in future, I need to have the words 'translate' and 'Polish' in the title. :) No, these words aren't necessary.. Admin

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 17:20 / #
OKay, thanks Admin :)

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 17:55 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll written in English translated into Polish. quiute a bit the other way around too, no?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 17:57 / #
If you mean, it would be assumed that something written in Polish is requested to be translated into English, then yes.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:00 / #
so, maybe it is important to put "into polish" or "into english" in the title

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:13 / #
i'm just arguing for the sake of arguing here, PD..... i think it's funny that admin wants the titles to have some of the message body in them in their respective languages.. hope the search function also tranlates.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 18:18 / #
Quoting: plk123 i think it's funny that admin wants the titles to have some of the message body in them in their respective languages.. Actually, I suggested putting some of the message body only because it is the simplest and more convenient way for most users. It's not the best way, however. The best title uniquely summarizes the content of the message. But I don't expect users to be professional writers so putting some text from the body should work too. Admin

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:28 / #
yes.. but not the english term.. that would actually be functional but i guess that's too much, eh? :D

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:31 / #
Quoting: plk123 yes.. but not the english term.. that would actually be functional but i guess that's too much, eh? but if it's been translated here, it'll show up in the results.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:00 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll If you mean, it would be assumed that something written in Polish is requested to be translated into English, then yes Unless there is a word written the same in both languages and someone wants only that word translating.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:04 / #
Quoting: plk123 so, maybe it is important to put "into polish" or "into english" in the title Can't see why. The text is either going to be written in English or Polish meaning that the requested translation language has got to be the opposite.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:16 / #
Quoting: plk123 think it's funny that admin wants the titles to have some of the message body in them in their respective languages.. I think that goes back to topic titles and them reflecting the content of the post. Quoting: plk123 hope the search function also tranlates. Why would it need to?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Edited by: plk123 Sep 14, 07, 18:24 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll Why would it need to? because some of the reason he/they want that is for functionality. all other languages are excluded if the search is performed in english (or any other lang.) only..

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:27 / #
If you type something Polish into the search and it's on PF somewhere, it will show up in the results.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:28 / #
You could search English for translations into English and Polish for translations into Polish. I don't know why you'd search for one and not the other.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Edited by: Admin Sep 14, 07, 18:29 / #
Quoting: plk123 admin wants the titles to have some of the message body in them in their respective languages.. Usually the person who requests a translation doesn't know the text (if s/he knew it, s/he wouldn't need it translated), so it would be unreasonable to require them to translate the text first just to write a title in English or Polish ;). Admin

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:30 / #
For example - someone says to you Jak sie Masz? and you don't know what it means. Type it into search...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:31 / #
Quoting: Admin Usually the person who requests a translation doesn't know the text (if s/he knew it, s/he wouldn't need it translated), so it would be unreasonable to require them to translate the text first just to write a title in English ;). Admin you seem to love to edit people's posts (titles).. why not perform that great service with an extra kick . then :D

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Edited by: plk123 Sep 14, 07, 18:32 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll Jak sie Masz? and that's used here plenty without translation being attached to it.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 18:32 / #
Quoting: plk123 you seem to love to edit people's posts (titles).. Believe me, it's the last thing I would call "lovable activity." Quoting: plk123 why not perform that great service with an extra kick . then :D How?

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:38 / #
Quoting: plk123 and that's used here plenty without translation being attached to it. Was an example only.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,415 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:42 / #
Quoting: Admin How? edit the title with both languages in it? Quoting: PolskaDoll Was an example only. and there are plenty others.. that's why a translating search would be functional and would uniquely summarize[s] the thread. lol

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,085 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Sep 14, 07, 18:44 / #
Quoting: plk123 edit the title with both languages in it? That would have to be a paid, not volunteer job :}.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Edited by: PolskaDoll Sep 14, 07, 18:47 / #
Quoting: plk123 edit the title with both languages in it? Then what would be the point of the post? My example was that if you don't speak much Polish and someone said "Jak sie Masz?" you could come here and type that into the search and the search would show you this and the thread it had been translated in. Therefore you could click on that and get your translation without having to start another thread. It would work for a lot of phrases here. However, if you got a longer message, unique to you, you'd probably want to start your own topic and then the title would have to reflect the content of the post.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Sep 14, 07, 18:50 / #
Quoting: PolskaDoll u could come here and type that into the search and the search would show you that this and the thread it had been translated in You can do that already. Search the posts rather than the threads. I've found a few translations that saved me the bother of starting a new thread. Or have I missed the point here?