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Looking for texts regarding the November and January Uprising in PL

danielcThreads: 8 Posts: 10 Joined: Jun 25, 07	Jun 25, 07, 15:35 / #
hello i'm looking for reading material such as speechs or literature text regarding the November and January Uprising. i'm an israeli student. i need to prepare a 15 minutes guidance about these events, and it is hard to find that kind of materials here. i'm looking for materials that will make my lecture more vivid. please help! thanks!

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 25, 07, 15:50 / #
Here is basic stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Uprising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_Uprising What's more do you need ?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jun 25, 07, 16:27 / #
Maybe a speech by David Ben-Gurion myisraelsource.com/content/bengurionspeech

danielcThreads: 8 Posts: 10 Joined: Jun 25, 07	Jun 25, 07, 23:27 / #
hi: 1. about the wikipedia site: i allready saw it. what i'm looking for is famous texts about these events. like literature texts writen about it (poems, speechs made by the rebels etc). a text that will symbolize the uprisings. 2. i didn't understand what's the conection to david ben-gurion's speech. thanks!

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 26, 07, 00:21 / #
Quoting: danielc 1. about the wikipedia site: i allready saw it. what i'm looking for is famous texts about these events. like literature texts writen about it (poems, speechs made by the rebels etc). a text that will symbolize the uprisings. OK. I will try to find something later.

danielcThreads: 8 Posts: 10 Joined: Jun 25, 07	Jun 26, 07, 01:28 / #
thanks

horunPolandThreads: - Posts: 127 Joined: Apr 4, 07	Jun 26, 07, 05:27 / #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Plater Poem about Emilia Platter by A.Mickiewicz but in polish and muy english is not good enough to translate this...http://www.tygiel.co.uk/lektury15.htm http://univ.gda.pl/~literat/amwiersz/0006.htm about Lelewel (one of leader November Upspring) univ.gda.pl/~literat/amwiersz/0060.htm about Ordon qwho bravely defens Warsaw agains Russian

danielcThreads: 8 Posts: 10 Joined: Jun 25, 07	Jun 26, 07, 06:15 / #
thanks! i would be very gratefull if someone can traslate the Mickiewicz poem to english for me. thanks!

bronka	Jun 26, 07, 08:50 / #
Hello the title of the poem is "the colonel's death" I advice you to look for the professional translation otherwise you won't be able to fully appreciate the masterpiece but that's just a suggestion:)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 26, 07, 10:52 / #
Quoting: danielc i didn't understand what's the conection to david ben-gurion's speech. Fisz is American... Here are some paintings If you want... Patrol powstańczy by Maksymilian Gierymski - about January uprising. Olszynka Grochowska by Wojciech Kossak - November uprising. Poems are very hard to translate, maybe someome will translate more or less but you need to open a new topic in a translation section.

danielcThreads: 8 Posts: 10 Joined: Jun 25, 07	Jun 26, 07, 14:03 / #
thank you everyone! i found someone who translated the Mickiewicz poem for me. it is great! 1. is Emilia Platter a polish hero (the poem says she is from Lithuania). i know the two countries were united at that time, but is Emilia Platter considered today to be a polish hero? 2. are there any poems about the 1864 January uprising? again, thank you very much! you are so nice!

horunPolandThreads: - Posts: 127 Joined: Apr 4, 07	Jun 26, 07, 17:18 / #
some school in Poland and even polish school in USA have name of Emilia Plater she is like Joana D'Arc for French. tommorow i will try to find some poem about January Upspring. That Time a Poland and Lithuania was like one body so we have same heros from this nice time ...

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 28, 07, 18:34 / #
Quoting: danielc are there any poems about the 1864 January uprising? There must be some but I don't remember now any.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 29, 07, 17:05 / #
There's Gloria victis by Orzeszkowa, but that's rather a novel.

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