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Poland' ethnic minorities and the Nazi-Soviet occupation of Poland



joepilsudskiThreads: 44
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Edited by: Administrator   Sep 8, 07, 09:54 /  #
The NKVD Executions In Poland

When Russia Occupied Poland in 1939

The Jewish population was mainly from Russia, and Poles never fully accepted them. When Russia invaded Poland the Jews were like hungry dogs in front of a butcher shop, and now the shop door was open. This wasn't about Communism, or Bolsheviks, it was simply shipping off the intelligentsia, and wealthy Poles to Siberia, and grabbing their possessions.

http://judicial-inc.biz/9_5_nkvd_executions_in_poland.htm

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  Sep 8, 07, 15:23 /  #
Quoting: joepilsudski
The Jewish population was mainly from Russia, and Poles never fully accepted them.

This is a kind of manipulative writing. There is no nation that would accept other nation or a large group of people on their territory. It is a normal, human behavior and shouldn't suggest that Polish people were "bad" because some of them didn't fully "accepted them." I have nothing against any nation, but some historical "facts" should be read very carefully not to be biased.
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  Sep 22, 07, 11:25 /  #
Quoting: joepilsudski
When Russia Occupied Poland in 1939


The Jewish population was mainly from Russia, and Poles never fully accepted them.

Who is writing that. It is a brutal mistake. Jews are all from Poland or Lithuania. There were no Jews in Russia before RP Partitions.
In 1939 very few Jews came from Soviet Union to Polish lands. Maybe some public servants and military officers. The rest had nothing to do there.
Among Jews kiled in exPolish territory by Germans there are nearly no Jews from the Soviet Union.
truhleiThreads: 14
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  Sep 22, 07, 11:27 /  #
Quoting: joepilsudski
This wasn't about Communism, or Bolsheviks, it was simply shipping off the intelligentsia, and wealthy Poles to Siberia, and grabbing their possessions.

That was a real communism. Rich Jews shared Siberia with other exPolish citizens. To some Jews that saved the life because they weren't killed by nazis
szkotja2007Threads: 38
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  Sep 22, 07, 12:04 /  #
Quoting: joepilsudski
When Russia Occupied Poland in 1939

What was your point Joe?
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  Sep 22, 07, 12:06 /  #
Quoting: szkotja2007
What was your point Joe?



Good question
isthatuThreads: 4
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  Sep 23, 07, 09:07 /  #
seems just like the joe we all know and love....the usuall anti wottsit paranoia and conspiricy theories involving mel brooks,woody allen and barbara striesand plotting to take over the world and make If I was a rich man the new national anthem of Poland........
joepilsudskiThreads: 44
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  Oct 6, 07, 17:07 /  #
I haven't posted here lately, because when I posted this thread, there was some kind
of web 'spybot' that came up in the box that appeared to be tracking the last few websites I visited...when I post something that I think has historical value, I usually try to check at least two sources before I post...well, this 'spybot' seemed to have a record
of where I had been 'surfing' and booted me off...I had heard of this, but never actually SEEN it in operation before...
Anyway, the point of the post was a response to a television program that has been aired repeadedly in the US on Public Television over the last few years called 'Neighbors'
based on a book by a Professor Gross...this book & program dealt with the so-called
Jedwabne massacre...anyway, the book accuses the Poles of wholescale massacre of Jews in Jedwabne...well, this accusation seems to be an unfair one, and I accidently ran across two websites that give another side of the story...the Polish side has never been given airtime in the US, and I took umbrage...that was the reason for the post; maybe this issue has already been discussed...
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  Oct 7, 07, 05:52 /  #
although I disagree with your overall sentiments joe(as you jolly well know :) ) Even I can admit to the obvious facts of why the Jewish side is shown in America more than the Polish side. 'ski may be commen in the end titles as camerman/sound/props/adr etc etc but stein/silver/gold etc seems to dominate producers credits.......
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  Oct 11, 07, 05:14 /  #
I am new to this whole polish forum please excuse me. and I mean the whole home. part I am a slow reader. so I have only joined this just now. yur right about poles being
over looked in the last wonderful ww II. Both my parents came from the Uranian part of poland. isn'nt it great?!!
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  Oct 11, 07, 10:02 /  #
Quoting: saddened
Both my parents came from the Uranian part of poland. isn'nt it great?!!


You come from Uranus?
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  Oct 11, 07, 17:05 /  #
Quoting: saddened
last wonderful ww II

wonderfull.....try great,ie second great war......wonderfull wwII sounds like an episode of allo allo.....:)
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  Oct 17, 07, 12:23 /  #
Quoting: Kilkline
You come from Uranus?


Oi. Oi. We were not born chickens. So watch it but me and my friends up there always have our eyes on you. and the first is poland!!
You are all such lovely people and your national drink is just like what comes out of our taps.
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  Nov 15, 07, 12:22 /  #
It was not just the Jews my Roman Catholic Polish family were sent from eastern Poland (Ukraine today) by the Russians to Siberia. I must add this was Feb 10, 1940.

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