Are there any other countries that Polish immigrants are going to?

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During the first phase, three EU-15 Member States (Ireland, Sweden and the United Kingdom) liberalised access to their labour markets under national law. The United Kingdom, however, adopted a mandatory Worker's Registration Scheme. Under this scheme workers from the EU-8 Member States must register with the UK Home Office within 30 days of starting their employment in the UK.

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 4, 07, 21:56 / #
Are there, aside from Ireland and the UK that Polish are immigrating too in large numbers? How well are these other countries receiving them?

sparrowThreads: 4 Posts: 307 Joined: Apr 24, 07	May 5, 07, 07:27 / #
I know for sure the USA & Canada. Because for a couple of years Poles haven't been eligible to obtain a green card because of the huge influx of Poles. As far as other countries in Europe.. only the UK & Ireland have fully opened their borders for Eastern-european workers. But other countries have said they will in the future.. that should get Poles moving again

BabylonThreads: 28 Posts: 335 Joined: Oct 9, 06	May 5, 07, 07:38 / #
the Netherlands

witekThreads: 2 Posts: 739 Joined: Apr 1, 07	May 5, 07, 09:05 / #
Quoting: sparrow I know for sure the USA & Canada. these destinations from Poles are not that popular anymore Poles prefer to go to Ireland and England because they will make more $$$ than in U.S.A or Canada and they are closer to home.

sparrowThreads: 4 Posts: 307 Joined: Apr 24, 07	May 5, 07, 09:14 / #
You're absolutely correct Witek, it's much easier & better for Poles to go work in the UK/Ireland, more bucks, closer to home & more work. But the USA still remain a popular destination because of "American Dream" & the big Polish community over there I know cause I applied for a green card to America, I have the Belgian citizenship but they won't allow me to participate because I was born in Poland. :( Qualification to apply for DV Lottery * Not all countries , citizens are allowed. Citizen from certain countries who has already sent more then 50,000 immigrants (green cards holders) in last 5 years. For DV-2007, natives of the following countries are not eligible to apply because they sent a total of more than 50,000 immigrants to the U.S. in the previous five years: CANADA, CHINA (mainland-born), COLOMBIA, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, EL SALVADOR, HAITI, INDIA, JAMAICA, MEXICO, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, POLAND, RUSSIA, SOUTH KOREA, UNITED KINGDOM (except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories, and VIETNAM. Persons born in Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR and Taiwan are eligible.

witekThreads: 2 Posts: 739 Joined: Apr 1, 07	May 5, 07, 09:23 / #
Quoting: sparrow But the USA still remain a popular destination because of "American Dream" & the big Polish community over there i've met many Polish people in Chicago who are returing to Poland to invest $$$ or going to Ireland to work construction for better wages. Also Poles are legal in Ireland and England and they can fly from London to Warsaw for the weekend. .

sparrowThreads: 4 Posts: 307 Joined: Apr 24, 07	May 5, 07, 09:49 / #
I agree, they are far better off in Ireland/England! I don't understand why so many Poles still move to the USA myself.. as you can easily find better paid jobs in the rest of Europe btw they are legal with a green card

Perfect4u	May 5, 07, 10:04 / #
Poles go ton European Countries becouse they can legally work there but as far as i learn from newspapers they are not always treated fair in this countries.That`s why living in Canada or the USA is better for us.This are countries that have built its succesfull economies by attracting immigrants.nobody in those countries show them that they are not welcome (beside governments pretending they are fighting with illigal immigration).people on the street will not tell you that you should go back to Poland and stop stealing emglishman job.Few weeks ago Artur Boruc saved 9 month pregnant polish girl who was bitten by people on the street of Edinbourgh.It doesn`t happen in Canada or US.Of course there are some robberys but it has nothing incommon with nationalism.

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	May 5, 07, 10:31 / #
Quoting: Perfect4u Poles go ton European Countries becouse they can legally work there Incorrect....only 3 countries gave permission to work, the two above plus Denmark. They have to wait for another period before they can legally work in the rest iof the EU.....not sure how long, but they can visitthe other EU states, many then stay and work but they aren't protected by law in those countries. Quoting: Perfect4u Few weeks ago Artur Boruc saved 9 month pregnant polish girl who was bitten by people on the street of Edinbourgh. Sure, but equally in Ireland East Europeans have been increasingly involved in crime, its a two way street. Quoting: Perfect4u It doesn`t happen in Canada or US Gee..............are you sure? Quoting: Perfect4u That`s why living in Canada or the USA is better for us Plenty of sad Poles reporting general intolerance to other immigrants to N America..........

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 5, 07, 11:23 / #
Quoting: Frank Plenty of sad Poles reporting general intolerance to other immigrants to N America.......... ive Not witnessed anything like what has happened above with the pregnant girl not to say things cant happen, in any " big Move" its probablly best to move in more suburban areas, even apts.. Where I live, crime is low, the biggest thing to happen ( neighborhood gawk show) is maybe someone had domestic fight wife and hubby get drunk and she throws something at him in turn he ends up with stiches or taken away by police, or someone broke a window and stole cds out of a car. or got into the garage, but neighbors seen the perpetrator and call police and the guy was caught. yes ocasionally, someone is found they have been stabbed, or killed, usually this is big news, front page for us, because this is not typical of our area..and usually its drugs involved.. Canada I couldnt tell you about.my friend who lives in London, she always told me good things about Canada, made me even want to move there :) I know someone who recently from Poland ( her name is Gosia) I think I will ask her if she had any problems in the beginning with people calling her names. I really doubt it, because now a days people accept more, I think right now the focus is on the immigrants from mexico, south America. They bring with them heavy drugs into America, I think if a man or woman wants to come, to find a job, improve then yes, but smuggling drugs etc, stay in your own F-up country. and no, there is no double standards here again, who would want to allow someone I dont care what color you are into my country and kill my children and other children with drugs. you dont belong in any country if you sell drugs to children and are a sicko like that..

Perfect4u	May 5, 07, 11:45 / #
As far as I know poles can legally work in UK,Ireland Sweden,Holland,Italy ,Spain,Portugal and some other countries.It is easy to get work permit in some occupations (medical) in Norway.It is very easy to get information about it on the internet or the polish Employment Office (Urzad zatrudnienia). About attitude towards iillegal immigrants in North America .Everyone in Canada or in USA is an immigrant.Even Indians came from another continent in the past centuries.Canadian attitude is to built multicultural society where everyone can preserve traditions and own culture and heritage.There is no problem about people of other race or nation.Even Palestinian and Jewish can live here in peace,serbs and people from bosna.Canadian authorities officcially fight with illegal immigrants but reality is that it tolerate it because of the unfilled jobs especiallly in constraction industry. The position of the government and people in Canada is that immigrants are very dynamic people and at the beginning they use social help but later they do create jobs for themself and for canadians.Thats why there is no attacks on new immigrants.Of course there is some criminal activities like everywhere in the world but they are not related to nacionalism and no one sais that someone is stealing his job place. Canada accepts ca.250 thousends immigrants annually.They stimulate economical growth for canada.Each immigrant creats a big demand for goods from a dish ,car and place of living.This way there is a big construction boom in Canada.It is like crating a new city populated by quarter of a milion people. The same do immigrants in UK but the mentality of the people in UK is different.Beside during soccer games the english hooligans attac everyone and do demages.In North America fans just get to their cars and the only problem they create is the traffic congestions.

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 5, 07, 12:03 / #
Quoting: Perfect4u In North America fans just get to their cars and the only problem they create is the traffic congestions. lol amen to that..I get scared driving home from one, concerts etc because I am designated driver to get all of us home safely, but Still am scared of the other drivers who have tyed one on.. and highway driving in 4 lanes with alot of intoxicated folks is nerve racking..scarey as hell, not to mention alot of people swerving and cussing at each other.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 5, 07, 13:20 / #
Frank, I will do poo poo in your garden...

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 6, 07, 00:27 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_ Frank, I will do poo poo in your garden... Grzegorz,, hah ahahahaaa, LMAO> you have to immigrate to ireland first!! ha ha.. dont forget your work permit and pooper scooper!! hahahahahahaaaaa..

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	May 5, 07, 13:00 / #
Quoting: Patrycja19 ive Not witnessed anything like what has happened Maybe should have qualified this P19.....not the recent immigrants but a common theme amongst earlier groups. Quoting: Perfect4u As far as I know poles can legally work in UK,Ireland Sweden,Holland,Italy ,Spain,Portugal and some other countries Nope...as before...Ireland.Uk...just Denmark or is it sweden....not the rest!! Quoting: Perfect4u Beside during soccer games the english hooligans attac everyone and do demages Complete rubbish....!!!!

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 5, 07, 13:07 / #
Quoting: Frank Complete rubbish....!!!! im not up on sports, I can say, we have had some during the game fights.. its more a guy thing then a nation thing.. just add some booze and they all get riled up.!! all someone has to say is were going to kick your arse!! the whole place thunders! Frank, I am sure it happens there too. men and competition, sore losers, and boastful winners. its the im better then you thing.. sorry guys. but ya cant deny that your comptitiveness to win and drive doesnt conflict with playing the game and that its only a game..

jan 72	May 5, 07, 13:11 / #
Poles can work in Finland now as well. Not sure how many do because of the language problems. Any Poles out there working in Finland - would be interested in how you are getting on ?

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	May 5, 07, 13:21 / #
Guys...it appears we are ALL not quite correct....please read said EU document........ First phase During the first phase, three EU-15 Member States (Ireland, Sweden and the United Kingdom) liberalised access to their labour markets under national law. The United Kingdom, however, adopted a mandatory Worker's Registration Scheme. Under this scheme workers from the EU-8 Member States must register with the UK Home Office within 30 days of starting their employment in the UK. ec.europa.eu/employment_social/free_movement/enlargement_en.htm

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,235 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	May 6, 07, 00:35 / #
Not sure if this is correct, but I thought I heard that Holland has relaxed its restrictions on Polish workers, can anyone confirm this?

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	May 6, 07, 00:58 / #
Quoting: ukpolska but I thought I heard that Holland has relaxed its restrictions on Polish workers, UK...it was in the body of the document that I copied into my post above but admin.......cut out 90% of it and just left the link..............................

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,235 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	May 6, 07, 02:59 / #
Just a heads-up mate I am British from Eastbourne on the south coast of England, but I moved to Poland 6 years ago after meeting my Polish wife in the UK. As to posting any pictures, no I haven't but maybe I will soon:)

witekThreads: 2 Posts: 739 Joined: Apr 1, 07	May 6, 07, 09:43 / #
Quoting: Patrycja19 Canada I couldnt tell you about.my friend who lives in London, she always told me good things about Canada, made me even want to move there :) canada is a nice country. many lakes and wildlife. but it is also a little boring. Quoting: Patrycja19 from mexico, south America. They bring with them heavy drugs into America, I think if a man or woman wants to come, to find a job, improve then yes, but smuggling drugs etc, stay in your own F-up country Patrycja most Mexicans in America work very hard, they do construction, factory work, lawn care and pick the fruit you eat.

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06	May 6, 07, 10:04 / #
Quoting: jan 72 Quote . Yesterday, 13:11 . #15 Poles can work in Finland now as well. Not sure how many do because of the language problems. Any Poles out there working in Finland - would be interested in how you are getting on ? There are not much I think. Most go to Sweden,Denmark and Norway which is understandable because they are nearer. So it is not only language. Those two Finnish forums in Polish, so you might read something about experiences there: forum.finlandia.pl forum.terve.pl

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome May 6, 07, 10:16 / #
Lots of Polish construction workers (but not only them) are employed in Iceland as well.

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	May 6, 07, 12:00 / #
Quoting: witek Patrycja most Mexicans in America work very hard, they do construction, factory work, lawn care and pick the fruit you eat witek, I have no problem with the average immigrant , everyone is welcome, but I dont welcome those who bring with them illegal drugs, why would anyone? And they dont care whose children die from it, as long as they have their money, so no, not every idiot is welcome, as to be careful to not generalize, I said those who bring drugs, I dont think they are picking fruit for me to eat.. do you?

LoneStrangerThreads: 3 Posts: 531 Joined: Jan 30, 07	May 6, 07, 13:06 / #
FRANCE

jakeThreads: 2 Posts: 21 Joined: Mar 16, 07	May 6, 07, 13:59 / #
Quoting: Maxxx Payne There are not much I think. Most go to Sweden,Denmark and Norway which is understandable because they are nearer. So it is not only language. Thanks for the link maxx. I noticed you are based in Helsinki, Are you Polish. Not enough Poles to open a Polski Sklep there yet then?

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06	May 6, 07, 16:09 / #
Quoting: jake Quoting: Maxxx Payne There are not much I think. Most go to Sweden,Denmark and Norway which is understandable because they are nearer. So it is not only language. Thanks for the link maxx. I noticed you are based in Helsinki, Are you Polish. Not enough Poles to open a Polski Sklep there yet then? no, i´m just Finn with an interest in Poland. There is about 1000 Poles in whole Finland.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	May 6, 07, 16:19 / #
Quoting: Maxxx Payne no, i´m just Finn with an interest in Poland. There is about 1000 Poles in whole Finland. If Finnish language wouldn't be so horribly hard (from my point of view), I'd move to Finland for a while :)

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	May 6, 07, 16:24 / #
Quoting: Maxxx Payne There is about 1000 Poles in whole Finland. There are 2000 in our county of 56000....!!! N Ireland....est. 60000......in population of 1.6 million Rep. Ireland.......200000....in pop. of 5 million Daffy....feel free to update....lol