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truebritThreads: 3 Posts: 230 Joined: May 19, 06	Edited by: truebrit Jul 23, 06, 01:46 / #
I asked Wujek this question before and am curious how other Poles feel.How do Polish people feel about Germans and Russians in general? The Nazi occupation was 60 years ago but Poland suffered so much do people have negative feelings about the German people? Also,do you blame communism rather than the Russian people for what the Soviets did? I know that if Britain had suffered in such a way as Poland (under the Nazis) there would probably still be much anger/hatred.

BRONET	Jul 23, 06, 08:05 / #
I dont give a s hit about the germans or the russians. But I will say that I prefer the Russians because some Germans are up themselves and i think still have some nazi left in them, ie. they think that since they are germanik peoples they are better or something . But I know this is only some . so... like you said... people hate the Nazis and the s hit that went down with some Soviet government actions like deportations to the far east end of russia and so on... forced labour camps.

AdminThreads: 75 Posts: 3,088 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Jul 23, 06, 11:34 / #
I feel good about them all. They didn't do anything wrong - they parents or grandpartents did... and this is makes a difference.

guest	Jul 23, 06, 11:41 / #
well, right now russia is cutting off our gas line and makeing a pipeline in the baltic sea from russia to germany and avioding us and ukraine in purpose, so i dont like neither country, both countrys people are full of themselves so they could go f**k each other

guest-iwona	Jul 23, 06, 12:06 / #
I don't mind Russian - I think that they suffered a lot as a nation. I am not big fan of german, I think that they are full of themself and they look down at us Poles. It is my impression and I don't like it. They have never been friendly towards us.

boloThreads: 4 Posts: 345 Joined: Jul 11, 06	Jul 23, 06, 15:38 / #
I'm not a big fan of German either -- they act as if they owned the whole European Union (in fact they do since the German banks manage the finances...).

gosciu	Jul 23, 06, 18:19 / #
Don't like Germans either - they always beat Poland in soccer games... .

polishmancanThreads: 9 Posts: 35 Joined: Jun 20, 06	Jul 24, 06, 18:21 / #
Went to school with a German foreign exchange student (well actually a lot of German foreign exchange students) but this one in particular didn't care for Polish I could tell. Her host father commented on the only German National Basketball Player (U.S.) Dirk Norwitzki and he asked if 'ski' was German as I don't think he knew how to spell it. She immediately said "No! That (ski) is Polish!" (with a laugh). I emailed her some weeks ago during the World Cup and I sincrely think she didn't write back because she knew I was Polish.....

guest-iwona	Jul 25, 06, 02:43 / #
I don't know. There are some Polish-German marriages and they are probably happy but I don't think I would like to live there. I think that England is more open and tolerant for polish people. Maybe because we are not neighbours and don't have any history.

Shelley	Jul 25, 06, 07:13 / #
guest-iwona There are third / Fourth generation Polish familys in England, the polish integrated in to the english way of life - they had and still have their own social clubs but have just gone about daily life, they didnt try to change anything, so I dont think it has anything to do with tolerance, it's about joining in with whats going on as aposed to other cultures that are in England and separate themselves and try and impose their way of life in a host country! Quoting: Admin, Post #3 I feel good about them all. They didn't do anything wrong - they parents or grandpartents did... and this is makes a difference. You're very forgiving, after a recent trip to Oswiecem, I realised how much the Polish people suffered at the hands of the Germans, I'm not sure I could be so forgiving. I like so many lost relativese in the last two wars to them but we (English) havent known such loss as your nation, so the only thing the majority of english think is that they are a rude nation who dress badly!

iwona-guest	Jul 25, 06, 14:09 / #
There are third / Fourth generation Polish familys in England, the polish integrated in to the english way of life - they had and still have their own social clubs but have just gone about daily life, they didnt try to change anything, so I dont think it has anything to do with tolerance, it's about joining in with whats going on as aposed to other cultures that are in England and separate themselves and try and impose their way of life in a host country! That is true we integrate very quickly- In the end of the day we have similar culture ,we are Christian ..... But betwen Germany and Poland there was always tension. It is diffcult to explain but they look down at us.I rememebr I was on the trip in USA ( Great Canyon) we saw there german group- their look at us , how polish can afford trip like this? they should wash up dirty pots in some bars not going for a trip.

bug 69	Jul 27, 06, 14:16 / #
is there a vw -scene in poland trying to get hold of a splitty on the cheap can any one help?

China	Jul 28, 06, 08:33 / #
I have learned that in the early 60's in grade 4 or 5 "Jak swiat swiatem ,nigdy Niemiec Polakowi nie byl bratem"...... Hope that's not true....

Shelley	Jul 28, 06, 08:44 / #
Quoting: iwona-guest, Post #11 how polish can afford trip like this? they should wash up dirty pots in some bars not going for a trip. that's disgusting!

guest-iwona	Jul 29, 06, 06:28 / #
but that is true. I think that they are not very happy that we are in EU. They woulkd like to see us as weak, poor country happy to go to Germany to work for them for little money. I remember some tv programs showing areas with quite big unemplyment there. I am thinking why so many polish, chech, Hungarian...people go to England, USA, Ireland looking for better jobs but you don't see many german? I think that some part of eastern part of Germany are quite poor, and bad.

rlm2007	May 12, 07, 08:27 / #
It's about time that the USA did its part to bring equilibrium in a northern european section supposedly claimed by Germany and Russia. I am for aiming nuclear weapons at both Germany and Russia. I am a U.S. citizen and I think that Roosevelt did not do enough to stop that barbarian Stalin at the Yalta conference. I think that they all just wanted to 'go home'. If Germany or Russia shows its defiance again than I say that the Allies should bomb them both into submission. The Allies have the power. Josef Pilsudski was a little early for the table but he tried to engage the wrong partner, the French. Forget about the Germans looking down upon people. They are just born as cold hearted f'in freaks. Once you smack them in the back of the head then they are submissive. They should be performing the labor jobs for Poland and allow Polish intellect to be the strategy leaders. Why else do you think that they, and the Russians, persecuted the Polish intelligentsia in the early 20th century?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	May 12, 07, 08:47 / #
reads above snickers giggles laughs out loud ROFLMAO ...cough...wipes laughtears from eyes....for all else WHY should a German look up to a Pole??? WHY??? And yes...we too wish you would be somebody else neighbour...(think about relocating?) and we regret your admission to the EU (but maybe you are the first who get the boot out?) Who knows...:)

southern	May 12, 07, 09:37 / #
Is it true that the Poles are ready to celebrate the anniversary of the battle of Tannenberg with full reconstruction?Will germans also be invited?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Moderator May 12, 07, 09:50 / #
Yeah....that I hear again and again....like a mantra....from 1410 !!! LOL PS: The half of the force wasn't even polish...they were Lithuanians! 39.000 of them against 27.000 Germans....and they won...600 years back...and they can't stop talking!!! It is so funny...but also so pathetic! :(

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Moderator May 12, 07, 10:08 / #
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy against 27.000 Germans Not against "Germans" (as your "nation" didn't even exist then) but against knights from the whole western Europe.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Moderator May 12, 07, 10:28 / #
...not Germans? And why is it always touted as "Victory over the big, bad Germans"??? And still only 27.000 against your 39.000...you can't have it both ways! :) Okay...why else should Germans look up to Poles??? You MUST have other examples of your "greatness", don't you? Wanna compare the achievements and famous people of our both nations??? Yes??? Wanna see which of our nations is the pathetic one, yes??? LOL Germany is called the land of the Poet's and Writers, we are till now famous for our inventions, feared warriors, we MADE the western civilization! And Poland...erm....what do they say about Poland...hmmm....

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	May 12, 07, 10:38 / #
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy and famous people of our both nations

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	May 12, 07, 10:49 / #
No wonder....tired jokes...but what else do you have for an answer...I understand you...must be hard to live beside such a people and continously to lose out as compared to us...poor, poor Poles! :( Have a nice day! :)

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	May 12, 07, 11:23 / #
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy Germany is called the land of the Poet's and Writers yeah yeah Dichter und Denker, yet you have the dumbest students in Europe :P

jan 72	May 12, 07, 11:27 / #
Nothing to do with the war or history bratwurst boy - truth is that people simply do not like Germans ! Whereas most people do like Poles because in general they are pretty friendly and humourous people - things that simply cannot be said about Germans - sorry

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	May 12, 07, 11:29 / #
Quoting: jan 72 truth is that people simply do not like Germans ! I thought Americans/British were loud and obnoxious when I was out in Gdansk, but the Germans took the cake there.

jan 72	May 12, 07, 11:32 / #
watch it zgubiony - im british - Im sticking up for you lot here !!!

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 12, 07, 11:35 / #
Quoting: jan 72 truth is that people simply do not like Germans ! They are simply... simply... uncool - to say the least.

jan 72	May 12, 07, 11:38 / #
I saw more black leather trousers in Germany in two days - than I have seen in the uk in the last 30 years ! say no more

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	May 12, 07, 11:41 / #
I would suggest that the main 'notability' of Germany history during the 20th Century was the complete surrender of their nation to the Zionists, both financially & politically... Hitler tried to address this to an extent, but the 'National Socialist' leadership became a cesspool of sexual perversion & the occult...their needs to be an understanding be- tween German & Polish people based on mutual respect & recognition of common enemies whose intent is to dominate/exploit both nations.

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