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What sort of fellow is this Donald Tusk anyway?

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MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Edited by: Marek Oct 24, 07, 15:14 / #
Hello, fellow forum members! (Witajcie, drogich forumniczow!) Who do you think will be the one to succeed the Brothers Kaczynski?? I'm not clear who Donald Tusk really is, or what he stands for.

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Edited by: hello Oct 24, 07, 15:49 / #
One brother (Jaroslaw Kaczynski - the former prime minister) has already been succeeded by D. Tusk. Donald Tusk is PO leader; liberal guy as it seems. He is popular especially among young, educated Poles from big cities and Polish immigrants in Europe.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 24, 07, 15:50 / #
Quoting: Marek (Witajcie, drogich forumniczow!) drodzy forumniczowie. ;)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 24, 07, 15:56 / #
Donald Tusk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tusk During communist time in opposition.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 24, 07, 15:59 / #
Pl is so screwed.. this guy loves Pilsudski.

miranda	Oct 24, 07, 16:03 / #
Quoting: plk123 this guy loves Pilsudski. he wrote thesis on him - it oesn't mean tha the woul follow his footsteps IMO

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 24, 07, 16:10 / #
Quoting: Marek who Donald Tusk really is Loser.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:12 / #
Quoting: miranda he wrote thesis on him - it oesn't mean tha the woul follow his footsteps IMO if that's who you do your master's thesis on, you are in love with the guy.. saddam just loved stalin..

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 24, 07, 16:13 / #
which would make 41% of poland losers as they voted for him now thats a statistic for you to contemplate

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:14 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo now thats a statistic for you to contemplate statistic or a pollack joke? :D

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:17 / #
Quoting: plk123 if that's who you do your master's thesis on, you are in love with the guy.. saddam just loved stalin.. I like Pilsudzki too ,especialy for what he did for Polish independence during WWI and 1920. Quoting: Grzegorz_ Loser. :) Jaro is loster.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:26 / #
Quoting: Lukasz I like Pilsudzki too ,especialy for what he did for Polish independence during WWI and 1920. for our independence.. are you kidding me? the bastard sold us out, man.

GosiaThreads: - Posts: 38 Joined: Oct 16, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:30 / #
soem people have their theories on everything.......

GosiaThreads: - Posts: 38 Joined: Oct 16, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:32 / #
Quoting: Marek Witajcie, drogich forumniczow!) Quoting: plk123 drodzy forumniczowie i dont knnow which one was a joke, but witajcie, drodzy forumowicze! is correct:)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 24, 07, 16:58 / #
Tusk has very interesting biography. He is from very poor family his father died when he was 14. He worked as lauborer. He joined opposition and was fighting against commie regime. When we compare Kaczynski biography ... he is so little boy... When Tusk was taking part of what happened in '81. Kacz. decided to stay home and study ... marksist law... because he have choosen one of the most hated by oppositionist specialization on University ... no comment.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Oct 24, 07, 17:26 / #
Quoting: plk123 Pl is so screwed.. this guy loves Pilsudski. Twins love him too. Quoting: BubbaWoo which would make 41% of poland losers as they voted for him now thats a statistic for you to contemplate By the way. What do you think about Bush and how this is related to his voters? Quoting: Lukasz I like Pilsudzki too ,especialy for what he did for Polish independence during WWI and 1920. Dmowski has much bigger worth as far as political negotiations after WWI are concentrated. About Polish -Soviet war, Pilsudski role is just a myth. Do you heard about general Rozwadowski? Quoting: Lukasz When we compare Kaczynski biography ... he is so little boy... When Tusk was taking part of what happened in '81. Kacz. decided to stay home and study ... marksist law... because he have choosen one of the most hated by oppositionist specialization on University ... no comment. What a biased CV is this? I might not agree with JK on many issues but I don't question his past in opposition. Try to be at least a bit objective and not like some hardcore party apparatchick.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 24, 07, 17:40 / #
Quoting: lesser What a biased CV is this? I might not agree with JK on many issues but I don't question his past in opposition. Try to be at least a bit objective and not like some hardcore party apparatchick. Oh yes, when Kacz. joined opposition ? He was really little boy there. Now he wants to be first anty-commie. When Tusk risked everything in '81 Kaczysnki prefered to stay at home, he was from good family, he had to study. Now he is first anti-commie. Just think why young people havent bought him ... And they prefere Tusk, who is form poor family, who worked as lauborer for his studies ... and Tusk is liberal :) Tusk is OK

jdthebritThreads: - Posts: 14 Joined: Oct 22, 07	Edited by: jdthebrit Oct 24, 07, 18:11 / #
Tusk is severly lacking in charisma, and will be found out like Buzek was. I have met Buzek, and he controlled a thousand non partisan people in the palm of his hand. That's how difficult politcs is, and that's why the twins have been successful although thjey have no policies apart from isolationism. It is so much easier to destroy than build, which is why so many swallowed the PIS rhetoric of "let's get them." I was here in communism - a mate was bull shiting about a Hyandai car dealership in the city - I'd had a few and knew how to deal with a building that shouldn't be there - but he was shocked and frightened. I was serious and would have gladly acted as he felt stitched up by the guy in question........ Point -then, 20 years ago was the time to act - but Poland was shafted by the weak good christian Mazowiecki. Who I have absolutely no time for. Then was the time to break the undertaking and arrest the communists and strip them of any position and "their" wealth. Any time afterwards was palpably too late. The guy with the thick eyebrows and Nowy Swiat were correct Under Tusk a lot of people who can, will get very very rich. I for one will be envious, but maybe some good will come of it for Poland. But Tusk has to help small businesses which were being f****d by those socialist twins. And next, in my view, you should open the borders to more of Poland's "enemies" from the East, just as the "West" is opening it's borders. Aren't politics and the shifting tide ever so simple in actual fact?

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Oct 25, 07, 13:45 / #
Quoting: Lukasz Oh yes, when Kacz. joined opposition ? He was really little boy there. Now he wants to be first anty-commie. When Tusk risked everything in '81 Kaczysnki prefered to stay at home, he was from good family, he had to study. Tusk was a no-name at that time, he could risk everything because he had nothing. If you suggest that all people who studied law are communists this is absolutely silly and you chose to target this particular group only because this fits you at the moment. How many lawyers in PO educated at that time? Maybe none?! If Kaczynski would use his skills to serve the regime against the nation then your complains would be justified but you have no such evidence. Kaczynski was, not without reason the main adviser of Walesa and chief of his presidential bureau.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 26, 07, 03:36 / #
I wanted to show that Tuski and PO have roots in Solidarity in anty-commie opposition. Accusing them of being "red" isnt ok. Our society is mature enought to choose their leaderes form people who were on right side in the past.

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 03:50 / #
Quoting: Lukasz I wanted to show that Tuski and PO have roots in Solidarity in anty-commie opposition. Accusing them of being "red" isnt ok. Our society is mature enought to choose their leaderes form people who were on right side in the past. no more red

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 26, 07, 19:23 / #
Quoting: Marek What sort of fellow is this Donald Tusk anyway? I voted for him because his daughter is totally hot

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06	Oct 26, 07, 21:51 / #
Quoting: Marek who Donald Tusk really is, I heard him speaking on a polish radio station and he pronounces "r' in a funny way...did he grow up around the eastern border in Poland? I heard only much, much older people saying 'r' this way...the ones who were moved from the Russian territories to the western Poland after the war. My two brothers in-laws spoke that way...well, just curious...I don't know him and i don't really know what he stands for...

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Oct 27, 07, 13:05 / #
Odd name his, "Donald Tusk". Is he all Polish, or did his presumably modish parents want him to have a non-Polish first name? "Tusk" sounds almost Cashubian!

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 27, 07, 14:56 / #
Quoting: Marek Odd name his, "Donald Tusk". Is he all Polish, or did his presumably modish parents want him to have a non-Polish first name? "Tusk" sounds almost Cashubian! He is Pole, Kashubians dont consider him as their man ... and honsetly: Who cares ? Quoting: Eurola .did he grow up around the eastern border in Poland? He is form Gdansk the same as his parents...

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,521 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Oct 27, 07, 15:52 / #
It seems this Tusk is a Kashubian...from the small amount of information I have read, it seems the Kashubians are an old Slavic tribe who maintain their ethnicity within Poland, but are not in conflict with the Polish people...Maybe someone could comment more on the Kashubians and their history...also, if this Tusk was a an admirer of Josef Pilsudski, I think this is a good thing and would be a plus as far his presidential viewpoint.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 27, 07, 15:57 / #
Kashubians (Kashubian: Kaszëbi; Polish: Kaszubi; German: Kaschuben), also called Kassubians or Cassubians, are a West Slavic ethnic group of north-central Poland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashub

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 27, 07, 16:43 / #
Quoting: joepilsudski if this Tusk was a an admirer of Josef Pilsudski, I think this is a good thing and would be a plus as far his presidential viewpoint. I think that it was risky thing to writte about Pilsudski in communism times, and I would rather consider this fact as symbol of resistance against commies.

GosiaThreads: - Posts: 38 Joined: Oct 16, 07	Oct 27, 07, 18:52 / #
Quoting: Eurola he pronounces "r' in a funny way...did he grow up around the eastern border in Poland? lol dont think too much. the thing is called speech impediment and has nothing to do with where tusk comes from. and you say that poles from the west pronounce r in a strange way - well, i havent noticed although i am polish:)

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Nov 20, 07, 21:57 / #
But what about Tusk's politics? What impact is he having on Poland and its role in the EU? That's what matters. :)

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