Heavy drinking culture in the UK - is it still the same in Poland?

Quoting: Amathyst, Post #9

Hob, its not actually funny, there was a prog on the other week called "Booze Britain Birds" some of the women were more violent the men...it was horrifying to watch, dont get me wrong I enjoy a good old drink with friends but these women were drinking about 100 units a week and more

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Dec 17, 06, 08:20 / #
I was thinking about it. In UK there is heavy drinking culture.....I hear all the time about aggressive drunk women, vomiting drunk women injured drunk women, raped drunk women.... I know that not all of women do it. But I was brought in Poland on more self-respect culture..... in UK this word doesn't seem to mean much.... And I sometimes feel sorry to young girls here there is so big pressure on going out and drinking, drinking....that even if they don't like it they do it to be cool and accepted. Is it the same changing in Poland now ?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Dec 17, 06, 08:30 / #
Quoting: iwona, Post #1 In UK there is heavy drinking culture..... And in Poland not ?

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Dec 17, 06, 08:32 / #
I don't know? Is it? I haven't been very long in UK but I am loosing little contact with polish reality now.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 08:40 / #
Well if it is, I saw no evidence of it when I was there a couple of weeks ago. I understand and agree with everything you say, I dont see there being any change to the situation it's quite sad really, Im just glad that my nieces are well brought up and well behaved - my eldest niece is 14 and has not yet tried drinking, she's studious and has interests, I think that, that is a large problem girls dont have interests so see drinking as a hobbie...Also women earn quite a bit these days and are independant more disposable income more socialising.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 08:41 / #
Its being featured a lot on programmes at the moment and it is a problem.

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06	Dec 17, 06, 09:27 / #
Wonder if tv shows like Footballer's wives, Mile High Club have any influence. Also peer pressure for drinking, smoking weed is incredible

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 09:42 / #
I dont think progs like Footballers Wives had an influence, I think it's more to do with life-style changes, women have more money, they dont get married at an early age, dont have kids, they just dont have the same lives they had 40 years ago they have freedom to do as they please and it would seem binge drinking is the order of the day for many.

Hobbitual	Edited by: Hobbitual Dec 17, 06, 10:16 / #
Quoting: iwona, Post #1 I was thinking about it. In UK there is heavy drinking culture.....Ihear all the time about aggresive drunkwomen, voiting drunk womeninjured drunk women, raped drunk women.... Damn! I'm going to the wrong bars! Dirty slutty b1tch of a (w)hore !!! Can I have your number? Lol Before you die of horror (am I too late?) I'm referring to topic, not the poster!

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 10:23 / #
Hob, its not actually funny, there was a prog on the other week called "Booze Britain Birds" some of the women were more violent the men...it was horrifying to watch, dont get me wrong I enjoy a good old drink with friends but these women were drinking about 100 units a week and more - would you date a women that might come home and beat you up after a session with the girls....its just wrong.

manser	Dec 17, 06, 10:47 / #
polish are evry heavy drinkers, worse thna the UK, i went to a smal town, and there was still old folks lying on the grass at night pissed out of their skull, at first i was what the hell, because drunks in UK are violent, but poland, nt so violent, going by my experiences only.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Dec 17, 06, 14:32 / #
Quoting: manser, Post #16 but still poland is no saint country for sure. Are there any saintly countries?

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06	Dec 17, 06, 14:40 / #
Quoting: manser, Post #16 UK is worse though because ONLY uk are more VIOLENT when drunk, poliosh not so for some reason. they are drunk n stagger home but here its fights n deaths ect Yeah, you are more violent, no question. Perhaps, you take it after the king who was chopping off his wives heads ... OOOPS! Sorry! I couldn't help it!

Syrena_04Threads: 3 Posts: 112 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 17, 06, 16:51 / #
Quoting: Hobbitual, Post #13 The fact is, women are as bad as men (maybe worst) when it comes to 'herd mentality'. I agree. We are seeing this phenomenon in Canada as well. Not often, but once is once too often if you ask me.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 18:10 / #
Quoting: Hobbitual, Post #22 For misbehaving women:- 3 months forced romping with lesbian nuns! Lol Im going t-total, since I hate nuns and never really fancied visiting lezbos

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 10:52 / #
Ive only been to Poland twice and only ever saw a couple of drunks, unlike in the UK when I get hassled every time I go out (city centre) by some drunk or another. manser there is a drinking culture in the UK which is not good, jeez I can't even get on a bus at 8pm without being hassled by some drunk..

manser	Dec 17, 06, 10:55 / #
AMA, i know there is in the UK, i think its worse in the UK than poland...........UK is MORE violent when drunk, but i THINK there are more Drunks in poland but not so violent, ive ahd no hassle with polish drunks, i got invovled with one but he was more jokey than violent like her ein the UK.

Hobbitual	Edited by: Hobbitual Dec 17, 06, 11:19 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #9 Hob, its not actually funny, there was a prog on the other week called "Booze Britain Birds" some of the women were more violent the men...it was horrifying to watch, dont get me wrong I enjoy a good old drink with friends but these women were drinking about 100 units a week and more Well maybe not. Personally, I like women that exercise reasonable (but not stiff) modesty. The fact is, women are as bad as men (maybe worst) when it comes to 'herd mentality'. I wouldn't wish on them unreasonably, but many are just begging for the wrong attention. The game of life eh? Will you be the Wildebeest out of hundreds that gets eaten by a crocodile, when crossing the river? Or will you get across, relieved and learning of your wisdom? Btw, I'm not a heavy drinker. I stick to pints, I can lift them!

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Dec 17, 06, 12:30 / #
Hobbitual, What do you mean by"self respect" of woman?

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Dec 17, 06, 12:35 / #
polish are evry heavy drinkers, worse thna the UK, i went to a smal town, and there was still old folks lying on the grass at night pissed out of their skull, at first i was what the hell, because drunks in UK are violent, but poland, nt so violent, going by my experiences only. manser, When I was last time in Krakow we went with my friends for a meal , few drinks. We left at about 2am- Krakow main market was quiet few people still sitting outside, chatting .... I would invite you to any English town at this time ( Saturday night).....just to compare.....

manser	Dec 17, 06, 13:30 / #
polish are still drunked crazies though....im going by my experienc eout there otherwsie i wouldnt know anything about it. UK is worse though because ONLY uk are more VIOLENT when drunk, poliosh not so for some reason. they are drunk n stagger home but here its fights n deaths ect but still poland is no saint country for sure.

Hobbitual	Edited by: Hobbitual Dec 17, 06, 17:20 / #
Quoting: iwona, Post #14 Hobbitual, What do you mean by"self respect" of woman? You have answered your own question as I didn't actually say that, but it was part of my point.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Dec 17, 06, 17:30 / #
Yet another prog on t.v. tonight "booze britain" its shocking cant people go out without acting like idiots. With regards to Iwona's point about Krakow I saw no drunks on the streets there it was very pleasant the the couple of drunks I saw in Wroclaw were harmless enough and I didnt feel threatened. I think the point is some women in the UK are behaving like bloody animals when they're out they are showing us up and I dont honestly see a solution to it.

Hobbitual	Edited by: Hobbitual Dec 17, 06, 18:08 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #21 I think the point is some women in the UK are behaving like bloody animals when they're out they are showing us up and I dont honestly see a solution to it. For misbehaving men:- National service/boot camp For misbehaving women:- 3 months forced romping with lesbian nuns! No shaving allowed. Lol

Hobbitual	Dec 17, 06, 18:34 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #23 Im going t-total I only go teetotal when I'm too ill and fkd up. Then I'm on it again. I daren't think how much money I have spent on booze over the last 23 years or so..... I probably could have retired now.

danny danThreads: 3 Posts: 20 Joined: Dec 14, 06	Dec 18, 06, 02:16 / #
I met like 50 diffrent polish men and women and none of them drunk more than 2,3 beers. the drinking is a really unfounded prejudice about polish people. also, what I really appreciate is that even tipsy, they controll themselves very well. so, no outrageous behaviour or anything like that.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Dec 18, 06, 11:56 / #
Quoting: iwona, Post #1 is it the same changing in Poland now ? I have read some articles about today’s Polish youth, and it looks that girls in the age between 16-18 drink similar amounts of alcohol as boys do these days. Papers generally have the tendency to exaggerate, but maybe we really are witnessing heavy changes being made in the polish society? Who knows...

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Dec 18, 06, 15:53 / #
It is strange but in my imagination Poland is always the way that it was when I left. if I was to come back one day it can be more similar to west europe than to "old Poland"....

andrea1012	Dec 20, 06, 08:41 / #
Poland is heavy drinking culture two...so why can we speak about UK when we can judge Poland?...why do you all pick on UK??

danny danThreads: 3 Posts: 20 Joined: Dec 14, 06	Dec 20, 06, 08:50 / #
I agreed with andrea England feeds more than half of million of Polish people. Why will all of you bite the hand that feeds you? I noticed this about the polish people in Italy. Even if they get paid really well( compared to poland where I read that they are people that get max 200 euro) they say some very mean thing about my country. You should hear them call us names and despising our culture! I think everyone agrees with me when I say: Shame on them These are the real trolls

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	Dec 20, 06, 08:58 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #21 I think the point is some women in the UK are behaving like bloody animals when they're out they are showing us up and I dont honestly see a solution to it So, there are a few namby pambies out there...stuck with that Victorian attitude....laughable...who are these arbiters of how much or who should drink what......complete and utter bukum! C'es la vie! Remember Amathyst....there is only one thing worse than being looked over............and thats being over looked!! Ok, so it doesn't work so well when the guys are drunk...lol...guys are always doing stupid things...why can't girls?......