Polish as Irelands Third Offical language?

Quoting: rafik

i strongly disagree with this idea.i think it's silly and will create barriers beetwen the 2 nations.it's completely unnecessary.at the moment everyone in the uk and ireland can speak polish freely.this decision would have made the irish more suspicious and hostile towards the poles.it's not that difficult to learn english and introducting polish as a 3rd official language would do more harm than good but it's just my opinion.

ZezeThreads: 10 Posts: 93 Joined: Sep 22, 07	Edited by: Administrator Oct 23, 07, 02:35 / #
The hundreds of thousands of Poles who have emigrated to Ireland want their mother tongue to be recognized as third official language of the island, alongside English and Irish Gaelic. It will not be an easy project to complete, since a change of the sort would require an amendment to the Irish constitution. thenews.pl/archives/1483-Polish-to-become-Emerald-Isles-official-langu age.html

jareck8	Oct 23, 07, 03:28 / #
bravo bravo.. in india there are 16 official languiages, if the need of the people of a particular land is present then work should be done to ensure it is achieved... what about latin europe it developed... irish polish.. sounds good

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 23, 07, 03:32 / #
Quoting: jareck8 irish polish.. sounds good Time to prepare: How do i say in Polish "To be sure" "Mines's a Guinness thanks" "Your man is right"

jareck8	Oct 23, 07, 04:22 / #
Quoting: szarlotka Time to prepare: How do i say in Polish "To be sure" "Mines's a Guinness thanks" "Your man is right" theres more ireland then guiness... you wanna ask 'oi mate you wanna buy a wee carpet' or 'where's the lepricorn gone with me...?'

mmmmm	Oct 23, 07, 05:51 / #
this is good. im learning polish anyway so it wil help me alot:) bring it in

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Oct 23, 07, 06:27 / #
oh damn I didnt see that comming 0_o Will be funny to watch tho if polish were to become the official language in Ireland

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 23, 07, 06:50 / #
Quoting: Ronek Will be funny to watch tho if polish were to become the official language in Ireland That's an Irish thing so I have no firm views. However, on last night's evidence Polish is now the official language in my local pub! The landlord John, henceforth known as Jan, has ordered in Polish beer for next week, two of the new bar staff are from Wroclaw and most of the customers were Polish. One of them even took MY seat at the bar. That stool and I go back a long way. I was stunned. If she hadn't been so goddam attractive I would have given her a stiff talking to I tell you. John, sorry Jan, was so delighted with the attendance on a Monday night he organised a past hours lock in. Great time had by all.

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Oct 23, 07, 11:24 / #
Quoting: Zeze The hundreds of thousands of Poles who have emigrated to Ireland want their mother tongue to be recognized as third official language of the island, alongside English and Irish Gaelic. This is I don't get - especially after PO win. So Poles in the UK voted for PO so that they could come back to Poland for a better life, but in spite of that they lost hopes in Tusk who promised to do a second Ireland in Poland?

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Oct 23, 07, 11:42 / #
It will not be an easy project to complete, since a change of the sort would require an amendment to the Irish constitution. [/quote] i strongly disagree with this idea.i think it's silly and will create barriers beetwen the 2 nations.it's completely unnecessary.at the moment everyone in the uk and ireland can speak polish freely.this decision would have made the irish more suspicious and hostile towards the poles.it's not that difficult to learn english and introducting polish as a 3rd official language would do more harm than good but it's just my opinion.

KrzysztofThreads: 2 Posts: 1,146 Joined: Jul 26, 07	Oct 23, 07, 11:49 / #
Quoting: hello who promised to do a second Ireland in Poland no, but since in a second Ireland Polish is the official language, why shouldn't it be official in the first Ireland as well? first we take Dublin, then we take Berlin :) seriously though, I don't have an opinion on this, it should be up for Irish people, maybe a referendum (local or national) would give an answer.

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:34 / #
It might just work. I know when I was a kid visiting my mum's relatives around Cork I found it difficult to understand what they were talking about. I might have more chance if they spoke Polish Editors note - dream on dumb boy

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:35 / #
what iam saying is that; -iam against creating polish enclaves in ireland and the uk.this decision will encourage lots of poles to not learn english(why bother if you can do everyhing without knowing english) -this would be like creating a country within a country -tensions would rise between the poles and the irish/english -i wouldn't like chinese to be our 2nd official language,say in warsaw,cos the chinese people have flooded the 10lecia stadium. -everyone who want to stay in ire/uk permanently should learn the language -i know a few people who's been living in the uk for 3 years and can't order a meal in the cantine.this is very wrong attitude.do you think that they would bother to improve their english after this proposition has been approved?

miranda	Oct 23, 07, 12:38 / #
So it is OK to hire Polish workers, it is OK to underpay them, it is OK to puke in Crakow, it is OK to shag Polish people, but it is not OK to have government services help in their native language. WTF?

miranda	Oct 23, 07, 12:41 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo youre welcome you are in a pissy mood today Bub.....

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 11:54 / #
Quoting: rafik i strongly disagree with this idea.i think it's silly and will create barriers beetwen the 2 nations.it's completely unnecessary.at the moment everyone in the uk and ireland can speak polish freely.this decision would have made the irish more suspicious and hostile towards the poles.it's not that difficult to learn english and introducting polish as a 3rd official language would do more harm than good but it's just my opinion. exactly - its a preposterous idea - talk about too big for boots

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:16 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo talk about too big for boots what does it mean?i haven't heard this expression yet?

mmmmm	Oct 23, 07, 12:17 / #
it will mean that people will learn it at school it will make more irish and polish become more friends. it will help people in the long run with so many polish in ireland i think it is a brillant idea and im serious. Quoting: rafik i strongly disagree with this idea.i think it's silly and will create barriers beetwen the 2 nations.it's completely unnecessary.at the moment everyone in the uk and ireland can speak polish freely.this decision would have made the irish more suspicious and hostile towards the poles so what your saying is because we speak english thats why there is a barrier between english and irish people.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:24 / #
too big for their boots -- someone who is too big for their boots behaves as if they are more important or more clever than they really are.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,208 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:30 / #
Very good. We should move more people from UK over there.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:32 / #
taking the time to sit and think about this, it actually makes more sense if poland changes its official language to english

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:32 / #
Quoting: Zeze The hundreds of thousands of Poles who have emigrated to Ireland want their mother tongue to be recognized as third official language of the island, alongside English and Irish Gaelic. That may bite a lot of Poles in their rear end. I wouldn't mess around with Ireland's internal affairs like that.

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:37 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo too big for their boots "someone who is too big for their boots behaves as if they are more important or more clever than they really are iam learning every day.thanx

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:39 / #
youre welcome

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:41 / #
thats not the point M - read again

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:42 / #
Quoting: miranda OK to have government services help in their native language. Spot on Miranda. People have been interpreting the original post as if it were a plan to enforce the Polish language on the Irish rather than as you say have it as an official communication langauge for government materials and crucial things like road signage which have a Health and Safety impact. BTW I am currently working on a government IT programme in Engalnd where we have to support 18 languages (including Polish).

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:42 / #
no - just have a thing about people taking the p*ss

irishdeanoThreads: 11 Posts: 492 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:42 / #
its best they bring in it. if you dont want to speak polish dont learn it you dont have to. you will still be able to speak english.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 23, 07, 12:44 / #
Quoting: szarlotka I am currently working on a government IT programme in Engalnd where we have to support 18 languages (including Polish). exactly - and how many of these language have joined the country's official language list?

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:47 / #
Quoting: miranda So it is OK to hire Polish workers, it is OK to underpay them, it is OK to puke in Crakow, it is OK to shag Polish people, but it is not OK to have government services help in their native language. WTF? As far as I understand, none of those Poles who now live and work in Ireland were forced to go there. I am an immigrant myself, and while I do not necessarily like every single thing about my new country (Canada), I have to say I have no problem giving this advice to all dissatisfied long term of short term immigrants: go back home. Nobody forced you here. Respect your new country as you would like your old one to be respected. There are many parallels between the history of Poland and Ireland. They are as sensitive about their independence and nationhood as we are. Have that in mind.

diamondThreads: - Posts: 10 Joined: Aug 16, 07	Oct 23, 07, 12:48 / #
having different languages doesnt bring people together....it seperates them. look at the exampes in the US and Canada.