When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland?

Quoting: ogorek

Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about.

izzyThreads: 4 Posts: 10 Joined: Sep 10, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:13 / #
2 questions: 1) When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland? 2) When will Poland get the euro?

izzyThreads: 4 Posts: 10 Joined: Sep 10, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:18 / #
Ok, I can answer part 2 myself: Poland will probably adopt the Euro as a currency in 2012.

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Sep 10, 07, 16:26 / #
Quoting: izzy 1) When is the law changing to allow foreigners to buy land in Poland? 2016 (unless the land was continually leased before May 1, 2004 - then 3 or 7 years - depending on the province). Why?

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:33 / #
2 answers 1)hopefuly never 2)hopefuly never

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:34 / #
Quoting: Ronek 1)hopefuly never 2)hopefuly never i can understand not wanting the euro but why not part 1??

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Sep 10, 07, 16:36 / #
I think I have to agree with Ronek, but there's nothing Poland can do now (since all the documents and treaties have been signed when joining the EU). The reason against point #1 is speculation.

gavin79Threads: 3 Posts: 81 Joined: Jul 16, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:38 / #
So I have no chance then when i move to poland with my polish girlfriend lol

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:38 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 tornado2007 Well First of all allowing foreigners buy land will make the martket prices go higher then they are already, and I dont think a typical Pole would be happy with that if he's trying to get a house or pay the rent. Second of all right now when foreigners get land in poland they either need to use look holes in the law system or work on it... if we opened the market for all of em... I can forsee it right now... the mass influx of western culture comming here. I'm fed up as it is with McDonalds starring at me on Market Square, Pizza Hut round the corrner it realy ruins my view.

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:40 / #
I know for a fact that we're delaying the first one as much as we can, I tend to vote on parties based on that cryteria.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:41 / #
Quoting: Ronek I know for a fact that we're delaying the first one as much as we can, I tend to vote on parties based on that cryteria. but i could buy land if i was married to a Polish girl, yes??

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:44 / #
Quoting: hello OK, but I don't really think any delay is possible. The parties may claim otherwise, but I think nothing can be really done to postpone these laws any further... oh we're in Poland.

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:58 / #
I ment mcdonalds, kfc, pizza hut on every corner. And big colorful meaningless posters on historical buldings. There are also good things as well I know, But such are the costs of glabalisation I guess. But is it wrong that I want the process to go slower?

CosmoThreads: 5 Posts: 20 Joined: Feb 2, 07	Sep 11, 07, 07:58 / #
I thought the rule regulation foreigners buying land were only in place for the first 4 years after Poland joined the EU? So jan 1st 2008 it should be free and open no?? For Ronek--> Why you opposed of others buying Polish house (land)? YOU can buy anything you like as well in any european country, right? Part of the deal when PL joined the Euro zone.

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 11, 07, 08:04 / #
Quoting: Cosmo Part of the deal when PL joined the Euro zone. Poland is not part of euro zone. Second thing, since when PL should make it easier for foreigners to buy land when foreign countries delay in fullfilling other part of the deal as well. And I mean investments, job offers and many other points of so called european market cooperation.

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Edited by: Ronek Sep 10, 07, 16:42 / #
unfortunately yes, thats what brits do nowadays...

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Sep 10, 07, 16:43 / #
Quoting: Ronek I tend to vote on parties based on that cryteria. OK, but I don't really think any delay is possible. The parties may claim otherwise, but I think nothing can be really done to postpone these laws any further...

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:49 / #
Quoting: Ronek unfortunately yes, thats what brits do nowadays... thats the thing, the laws are in place but weak because there are easy ways round them

gavin79Threads: 3 Posts: 81 Joined: Jul 16, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:51 / #
Quoting: Ronek unfortunately yes, thats what brits do nowadays... Why is it such a bad thing that if a man loves a woman and they marry to buy land and build there perfect home ??

RonekThreads: 1 Posts: 297 Joined: Sep 4, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:53 / #
Quoting: gavin79 Why is it such a bad thing that if a man loves a woman and they marry to buy land and build there perfect home ?? Oh god bless 'em and please let them do. I'm more concerned about thousand more who just come here and trash our culture with the western rubish.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:54 / #
Quoting: Ronek western rubish. wow hang on a second, just because its western does not mean its rubbish!!! It can't be that bad as we seem to do ok on the 'western rubbish' and the 'eastern people' want to come here

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 10, 07, 16:59 / #
Quoting: Ronek But is it wrong that I want the process to go slower? no mate nothing wrong with that at all, it menas that Poland stays as Poland for a longer time

ogorekThreads: - Posts: 233 Joined: Dec 16, 06	Sep 10, 07, 22:09 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 wow hang on a second, just because its western does not mean its rubbish!!! It can't be that bad as we seem to do ok on the 'western rubbish' and the 'eastern people' want to come here Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Sep 11, 07, 00:20 / #
Quoting: ogorek Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about. I agree with all of that, with one tiny exception. You can't blame them for the weather

Avalon	Sep 11, 07, 02:04 / #
Totally agree with Ogorek but in answer to Izzy, you can buy in Poland. Either an apartment, house with land not exceeding 0.5 hectares or building land for a house, again not exceeding 0.5 hectares. You are not allowed to buy agriculural or forestry land except, with permission from the interior minister. The price you pay for any of these will be the price dictated by the Polish seller, whether you are Polish or foriegn, so you will not be driving up the price for anyone.

CosmoThreads: 5 Posts: 20 Joined: Feb 2, 07	Sep 11, 07, 15:51 / #
Euro zone, European Union....you know what I mean. If both parties delay their promises than were stuck in a vicious circle aren't we? "I wont do this until he does that and vice versa" At the end of the day Poland shouldn't have to worry of foreigners buying "everything", like for example at the French/Spanish/Turkish coasts where the living for (wealthy, older) foreigners is better. At most the number of foreigners per year buying property here is somewhere in the 100's, hardly a drop in the ocean. And of those 100's or so 80% is likely to have a very good reason to do so as in a family, partner etc. What do you think?

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Sep 11, 07, 16:07 / #
Quoting: ogorek Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about. fair one then why not close the borders throw the s*it out of Britain and then start the clean up :). Not all things that happen in Britain is the fault of the British i think we all know that :). Yes we are responsible for a lot of what goes on but not all. If we could empty the country out of all the rubbish that has come here over the past 30-40 years then maybe we could have a go at sorting our own people out. I would like to clarifty that 'rubbish' has been used above to describe people who come to the UK and take part in criminal gangs and acts. Also those people who do nothing for the British economy and those who do not integrate or accept British culture. Further more i would like to add we intake a lot of immigrants who do wonders for themselves and the UK.

ogorekThreads: - Posts: 233 Joined: Dec 16, 06	Sep 15, 07, 20:54 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 Not all things that happen in Britain is the fault of the British i think we all know that No of course it's not the fault of the British people it's just the way the country is run. approx 70% of my friends here are immigrants from various countries and they all came here for the money. Not one of them is happy with their quality of life. It seems like the only way you can make lots of money here is to buy houses, do them up as cheaply as possible and sell them for profit - and even this is contributing to the coutries decline. Now they want to go to Poland to do the same. (phew back on topic)

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 15, 07, 21:06 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 throw the sit out of Britain Calm down. If the sht was thrown out, who might that be? What constitutes sh*t? Quoting: tornado2007 come here over the past 30-40 years 2nd generation? 3rd? Quoting: tornado2007 people who do nothing for the British economy Could be from any background. Quoting: tornado2007 who do not integrate I moved from one town to another. I don't speak to many of my neighbours. Am I not integrating? Quoting: tornado2007 accept British culture Are you going to join my as I sit at the old Joanna, tinkling the ivories to some bawdy music hall ditties? Quoting: tornado2007 Further more i would like to add we intake a lot of immigrants who do wonders for themselves and the UK. So how do you decide who is good or who is bad. Following the law? I see, one law for some, another law for the rest. Do you realise when a foreign company buys a British company, Britain still has bigger investments in foreign companies in Europe and America. When the Polish economy is in a better state, they might be able to make more of these kinds of investments in other countries. You might think Britain is being shafted. Well it's not. It is quite possible that when Poland continues to open up with its EU membership, the same thing will happen there.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Sep 16, 07, 01:20 / #
Quoting: osiol Quoting: tornado2007 throw the sit out of Britain Calm down. If the sht was thrown out, who might that be? What constitutes sh*t? Christ, we wouldn't have a Government left if we did that!

truebritThreads: 3 Posts: 230 Joined: May 19, 06	Sep 16, 07, 02:07 / #
Quoting: ogorek Born in the UK I have seen the streets become crowded, poluted, noise polution, nanny state, health and safety out of control, the food poisened, people getting fatter, social degradation, lack of repect, kids out of control, parents/teachers/police powerless, chavs rule, ladish behaviour fri/sat nite, crap schools, your child can't go out alone, or it will probably turn into a chav, crap health care, everything in shops a rip-off, noone can afford a house anymore, debts out of control, noone talks to their neighbours, everything is taxed, no more seasons (damp constant autumn) it's all about money- you earn lots but blow it on cost of living, east europeans come here for the money only, they work like dogs and live like dogs - eventually they go home because they get tired. That's not what life is about. This is typical Brit whinging.You can find many negatives in every country to whinge about.Some of those above are not even accurate-of course children in many areas can still go out alone but parents are more fearful(partly because of the hysterical crime reporting these days).Everything is taxed in most decent countries-go to a country with low tax and see what sort of life it is for the average person.Health and safety has resulted in fewer accidental deaths than ever before and chavs are not as bad as the equivalents in the past (eg skinheads).Its true people are getting fatter-in every wealthier society.