Illegal Polish girl wants me to marry her for citizenship

Quoting: Ranj

we can choose to do all these things or we can be responsible for our actions and do the next right thing.......let me share my own experience....I'm the youngest in my family and whenever I did something stupid, someone was always there to bail me out, either financially or emotionally......even after my parents died, my brothers and sister did the same thing......I was 28 years old before I realized I could actually take care of myself and my own problems and that was a great feeling. For sometime I held resentments towards my family because they slowed the process down for me to grow up......then I realized, I was the one who allowed it to begin with and I ended up being the one to change it.....are my siblings still there for me? Absolutely, although now it's not because I need them to "fix" my problems.

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 20:43 / #
Quoting: Kaczor Duck Then why are you so against it? if you dont believe in it, why so against it, you attack it as if it is true, maybe you should ust ignor us religious fanatics. Just a thought. i am against using religion when someone asks a question. they are not asking god, but other members here. they can go to church if they want to get preached to. Quoting: Kaczor Duck Actually I am I have 8 yrs of Biblical studeis and a degree to show for it, so I am an expert, and you are?? Just uniformed, i noticed you ignored my facts on ministies in all these countries helping all the starving children. and my answer to that was that if there was a loving god, nobody would be starving. Quoting: Kaczor Duck Let me ask you.. since there is no God, what are you doing to help these starving children not a thing, not my problem Quoting: Kaczor Duck You my friend are a hypocryte how so, im not saying one thing and doing another Quoting: Kaczor Duck Words are al you offer like you offer anything else Quoting: Kaczor Duck So twist my words all you want this will be the last post i make anytime religion is challenged and no proof can be produced, all you zealouts no longer want to talk, typical.

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1,833 Joined: Dec 23, 06	Oct 3, 07, 21:04 / #
Quoting: marek s and my answer to that was that if there was a loving god, nobody would be starving. Quoting: marek s not a thing, not my problem if it's not anyone's problem, why should it be God's? Are you saying that people can go around creating problems in the world and then God is supposed to fix it all? Why should he? Just curious about what you meant.

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 21:27 / #
Quoting: shewolf if it's not anyone's problem, why should it be God's? Are you saying that people can go around creating problems in the world and then God is supposed to fix it all? Why should he? Just curious about what you meant. if we are a higher powers creations, why would he allow any problems?

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 3, 07, 21:37 / #
Quoting: marek s f we are a higher powers creations, why would he allow any problems? Maybe so we all could strive to be a little more like "him" instead of expecting to be handed Utopia on a silver platter. God did not create the problems of the world.....we humans managed to do that all by ourselves......perhaps we should be accountable and try to fix them ourselves too......just a thought!:)

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 21:47 / #
Quoting: Ranj Maybe so we all could strive to be a little more like "him" instead of expecting to be handed Utopia on a silver platter. God did not create the problems of the world.....we humans managed to do that all by ourselves......perhaps we should be accountable and try to fix them ourselves too......just a thought!:) so if we strive to be more like him, we will allow people to kill in our name, have affairs, let people starve, die slowly of some disease, wage wars and so on. if there is a higher power, everything we have done wrong can be laid at his feet, the higher power could of stopped it dead cold.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Edited by: Ranj Oct 3, 07, 22:03 / #
Quoting: marek s if there is a higher power, everything we have done wrong can be laid at his feet, the higher power could of stopped it dead cold. Why should he stop it when it is our mess.....I believe the duck said it before....we have free will....we can choose to do all these things or we can be responsible for our actions and do the next right thing.......let me share my own experience....I'm the youngest in my family and whenever I did something stupid, someone was always there to bail me out, either financially or emotionally......even after my parents died, my brothers and sister did the same thing......I was 28 years old before I realized I could actually take care of myself and my own problems and that was a great feeling. For sometime I held resentments towards my family because they slowed the process down for me to grow up......then I realized, I was the one who allowed it to begin with and I ended up being the one to change it.....are my siblings still there for me? Absolutely, although now it's not because I need them to "fix" my problems. Life is so much sweeter when we can correct our own wrongs or when we accomplish something through our own hard work.....maybe that is what god wants us to experience and feel?

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 22:09 / #
Quoting: Ranj Why should he stop it when it is our mess maybe because there is no higher power to begin with. Quoting: Ranj we can choose to do all these things or we can be responsible for our actions and do the next right thing.......let me share my own experience....I'm the youngest in my family and whenever I did something stupid, someone was always there to bail me out, either financially or emotionally......even after my parents died, my brothers and sister did the same thing......I was 28 years old before I realized I could actually take care of myself and my own problems and that was a great feeling. For sometime I held resentments towards my family because they slowed the process down for me to grow up......then I realized, I was the one who allowed it to begin with and I ended up being the one to change it.....are my siblings still there for me? Absolutely, although now it's not because I need them to "fix" my problems. so you grew up, everybody does. there comes a time when everybody becomes a responsible adult, like it or not.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 3, 07, 22:12 / #
Quoting: marek s there comes a time when everybody becomes a responsible adult LOL....I strongly beg to differ on that note......I know some 50, 60 and even 70 year olds still struggling to become responsible adults.....trust me, not everyone becomes one.;)

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 3, 07, 22:14 / #
Quoting: marek s maybe because there is no higher power to begin with. Maybe for you, there is not, but for me and many others there is.....oh well, to each his own.

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 22:15 / #
Quoting: Ranj OL....I strongly beg to differ on that note......I know some 50, 60 and even 70 year olds still struggling to become responsible adults.....trust me, not everyone becomes one.;) your correct, but older people acting like idiots has nothing to do with religion, they are doing it because they can.

adityazao	Oct 8, 07, 04:19 / #
hi i `m eady from india i am sportsman and iwanna citizen shi of usa because i want to play for us will u marry me or give me citizenship.. please give me answer my e-mail adityazao@yahoo.com.......

ready2marry	Oct 10, 07, 12:55 / #
I am in chicago right now. I would do it if the money was WAY better and there is a prenup agreement. And the lady is easy to get along with and can be "trusted". She can have her own life and not be MY polish slave woman. She can live in her own place and be with whom she wishes. Of course we get story straight hang the pictures discuss intimate details. The trust factor comes into play mostly at the divorce time. Must be uncontested, seperate (like we already would be) for 6 months or so, and it's all over. Time to do it again! otudoordan2@hotmail.com

PL/BAH girl	Nov 8, 07, 20:59 / #
why after 4 years of marriage this guy hs no green card??? I thought it takes only few months...

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Nov 8, 07, 21:25 / #
Quoting: PL/BAH girl I thought it takes only few months... you're right. It takes a few months to get it. But there were probably other factors preventing him from getting it like overstaying his visa the first time and getting another one. It's all recorded.

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Edited by: marek s Oct 3, 07, 22:18 / #
Quoting: Ranj Maybe for you, there is not, but for me and many others there is.....oh well, to each his own to each his own i agree. what i dont agree with is when people here ask members here a question and they answer god this and god that. they arent asking god, they are asking fellow posters. its plain to see that god isnt solving anybodies problems, because if he did, there would be no need to ask to begin with

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 3, 07, 22:18 / #
Quoting: marek s they are doing it because they can. Yeah, because they have free will and make the choice not to be responsible. :)

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Oct 3, 07, 22:20 / #
Quoting: Ranj Yeah, because they have free will and make the choice not to be responsible. :) free will/mind set has nothing to do with religion. its human nature.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Oct 3, 07, 22:32 / #
Quoting: marek s free will/mind set has nothing to do with religion I will agree for you, it doesn't, but for many others it does. No need to let that upset you....it's way past my bedtime.....nice chatting with you on this subject....dobranoc :)

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 17, 07, 02:42 / #
There is no need to get married in this day and age.....Just find a woman you don,t like , and give her your house , and everything in it.....Or am i just being bitter.....