I love a Pole, but they say our relationship won't work..

Quoting: Al8, Post #1

I have a Polish friend who is concerned that it wouldn't be possible to have an English girlfriend because, when they return to Poland, the culture etc is so different.

I am of the mindset that if you love someone and want to be with someone, you at least try and mostly overcome any hurdles that are thrown at you. I also understand, however, that this person may want to protect a girl from any hurt.

So, is it really that different in Poland? Obviously the language would be a barrier but that can easily be solved, I really can't think of much else that could 'get in the way'.

Any thoughts?

Al8	Aug 7, 06, 08:37 / #
I have a Polish friend who is concerned that it wouldn't be possible to have an English girlfriend because, when they return to Poland, the culture etc is so different. I am of the mindset that if you love someone and want to be with someone, you at least try and mostly overcome any hurdles that are thrown at you. I also understand, however, that this person may want to protect a girl from any hurt. So, is it really that different in Poland? Obviously the language would be a barrier but that can easily be solved, I really can't think of much else that could 'get in the way'. Any thoughts?

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 08:58 / #
it's simple really, if the guy is nice, makes her laugh, makes enough money, takes good care of himself and is able to support her, the english girl might want to come along.. czy pan rozumie? people are the same everywhere.

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 09:05 / #
Al8 - Poland very similar to England - Im English and have been to Poland it found it no different really Quoting: Arien, Post #2 it's simple really, if the guy is nice, makes her laugh, makes enough money, takes good care of himself and is able to support her, the english girl might want to come along Most English women can support themselves. After all Poland isnt a million miles away...

poleman	Aug 7, 06, 09:25 / #
I like polish women with big boobs and blue eyes

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 09:29 / #
Quoting: Shelley, Post #3 Most English women can support themselves. I know, that's why they are all single and depressed. but they can't in poland if they don't speak the language.

Al8	Aug 7, 06, 09:29 / #
Arien, it's not a case of the English woman not wanting to go to Poland, it's that the Polish guy thinks that it would be too difficult for her. Shelley, I didn't imagine it would be 'that' much different, I think most people can adapt to situations, and as you say it isn't a million miles away. Thanks for your thoughts.

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 09:30 / #
Quoting: Shelley, Post #3 Most English women can support themselves. I know, that's why they are all single and depressed. but they can't in poland if they don't speak the language.

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 09:34 / #
Quoting: Arien, Post #5 I know, that's why they are all single and depressed. but they can't in poland if they don't speak the language. How rude....single doesn't = depressed All of a sudden I've gone right off the Dutch!

poleman	Aug 7, 06, 09:44 / #
any polish women living in michigan want to chat?

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 09:56 / #
single doesn't mean depressed? for me and a lot of other people it does. do you prefer being alone then? whatever. almost 48% of dutch people from age 20 to 28 are single and claim to be unhappy. and I don't think england is very different from us? just thinking out loud. sorry if I have offended you, but I don't see how my comment is offensive? and I don't care about that last comment, because I don't represent the dutch anymore.

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 09:59 / #
Quoting: Arien, Post #10 for me and a lot of other people it does. It depends on the kind of life style you have, I have lots of friends and good family and never short of male attention (just not the right kind a lot of the time) so Im happy enough, certainly not going to settle down for the sake of it - 6 years with someone - last two uphappy so to me being single is quite a breath of fresh air!

Arien	Edited by: Arien Aug 7, 06, 10:05 / #
Shelley okay, you have your reasons. that's fair enough. but don't you atleast agree that a lot of girls are acting ''strong and independant'' because they watch too much TV? again, I don't want to offend you or women in general, but most girls out here seem to reject every sweet guy they meet.. we can't all be superman you know. but yeah, I'll be the first to admit that I am unhappy to be single..

Al8	Aug 7, 06, 10:08 / #
I agree Shelley - at the moment I'd much rather be single than in a relationship. Ok I get odd days when I would love that bit of 'extra' attention BUT all in all I'm happy as larry just as I am. I don't understand people who feel the need to be in a relationship just for the sake of it. There are more than enough things that give happiness, a relationship is just one of many.

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 10:18 / #
for me, it's not for the sake of it. I want to do things for someone I like, someone to be for, someone to do things with, someone to share everything with. and let's face it, you can't share everything with your friends or neighbours.. for me, it's like.. I don't have to do things for me anymore, I have a job, I have a house, a car, friends.. I have seen enough movies, I have danced in too many clubs already. I feel the need to make someone else happy. not for the sake of it. but you're also a female, and also ''happy to be single.'' if you say so.

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 09:57 / #
Quoting: poleman, Post #9 any polish women living in michigan want to chat? I wouldnt have thought so and besides this is a forum not a chat room....get lost!

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 10:21 / #
Quoting: Arien, Post #14 we can't all be superman you know funny, charming and a gentleman is a good start my x was a nice guy but a bit miserable - I'm a happy go lucky type so it got me down in the end.... Yes I'd be first to say if the right person came along I'd love to get married and have children - but the right person for the right reasons Quoting: Arien, Post #14 okay, you have your reasons. that's fair enough. but don't you atleast agree that a lot of girls are acting ''strong and independant'' because they watch too much TV? Not sure about the TV thing - someone referred to Bridget Jones on here a while ago, but if you take time to read the book or even watch the film, she was desparate to find Mr Right her prince charming etc. Whilst a funny film not sure any woman would try and be like her... Quoting: Arien, Post #14 but yeah, I'll be the first to admit that I am unhappy to be single.. Miss right will come along one day, you're only a young sprog, enjoy yourself x

Al8	Aug 7, 06, 10:27 / #
Arien I'd love to be with someone but I have to want to be with that person, what I mean by just for the sake of it is I wouldn't be with anyone just so that I am in a relationship, I'd rather be alone than that.

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 10:51 / #
Al8 I guess I agree. but I still disagree with the whole independant attitude.. not because women can't be, they have a right to be, but because I think it became a fashionable and modern thing to say for a lot of young women. they seem to use it as an excuse for insecurity. again, I could be wrong. I only see the really beautiful girls in the clubs, and they turn the average guys like me down regardless so I'm not getting any wiser really. maybe it's different in england, maybe average girls do go out more over there? Shelley thanks, but to be honest I gave up already.

Arien	Aug 7, 06, 10:53 / #
whoops. I think we've hi-jacked a thread.

Al8	Aug 7, 06, 11:04 / #
Quoting: Arien, Post #19 but I still disagree with the whole independant attitude.. not because women can't be, they have a right to be, but because I think it became a fashionable and modern thing to say for a lot of young women. they seem to use it as an excuse for insecurity. Some of us don't have a choice - I'm a single Mum of 2, I have to be independant. Quoting: Arien, Post #19 maybe it's different in england, maybe average girls do go out more over there? Yes many average girls go out and they are often more beautiful than physically beautiful women, but then I guess you know that already And it's my thread, I don't mind it being hi-jacked lol

Shelley	Aug 7, 06, 11:19 / #
Quoting: Arien, Post #19 thanks, but to be honest I gave up already Hummmm...thats not good for a young guy to feel like that Quoting: Al8, Post #18 I wouldn't be with anyone just so that I am in a relationship, I'd rather be alone than that. Quite right too

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Aug 7, 06, 16:34 / #
Arien, you are nice guy, don't be so impatien right girl will come along ar right time I don't completely agree with you- not everyone is so happy in relationship, some people have bad experience, we can;y assume that if someone is single is miserable. maybe because i am female- I must admit that I prefer situation of English independent women that polish. It is ok in big towns. But in small places this mentality is annoying if woman of certain age( 25-28?) is single it means " noone wanted her" They will not say the same about man.

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Aug 7, 06, 16:40 / #
Quoting: Al8, Post #1 I have a Polish friend who is concerned that it wouldn't be possible to have an English girlfriend because, when they return to Poland, the culture etc is so different. I am of the mindset that if you love someone and want to be with someone, you at least try and mostly overcome any hurdles that are thrown at you. I also understand, however, that this person may want to protect a girl from any hurt. So, is it really that different in Poland? Obviously the language would be a barrier but that can easily be solved, I really can't think of much else that could 'get in the way'. Any thoughts? Poland is not that different from England and it`s just a short jump by plane. So, there`s a possibility he might be telling BS. Ask him - exacly - what kind of - bariers - that would be and come back here later on.

Shelley	Aug 8, 06, 05:58 / #
Quoting: iwona, Post #23 woman of certain age( 25-28?) Thats a certain age in Poland??? Jeeeezz 70% of my friends are single in their mid 30is all professional and of course whilst we're single we would like a relationship but with the right person but I dont think anyone of us feels that we're "not wanted" fussy may be but not wanted - god thats a horrible situation to be in - i'm glad I live in a large city Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #24 So, there`s a possibility he might be telling BS Maybe he's a really nice guy who doesnt want to fall in love in the UK only to want to go home and her not want to join him..... I suppose it depends on a lot of things, age, money and support

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Aug 8, 06, 06:34 / #
Quoting: Shelley, Post #25 I suppose it depends on a lot of things, age, money and support You`re absoloutely right here

Shelley	Aug 8, 06, 08:57 / #
Quoting: Wujek_Dobra_Rada, Post #26 You`re absoloutely right here Of course I am I'm a woman, we generally are correct in these matters

Wujek_Dobra_Rada	Aug 8, 06, 09:56 / #
Quoting: Shelley, Post #27 Of course I am I'm a woman, we generally are correct in these matters I`d say it depends.

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06	Aug 8, 06, 14:28 / #
Thats a certain age in Poland??? Jeeeezz 70% of my friends are single in their mid 30is all professional and of course whilst we're single we would like a relationship but with the right person but I dont think anyone of us feels that we're "not wanted" fussy may be but not wanted - god thats a horrible situation to be in - i'm glad I live in a large city I know, I hate this attitude in small towns, villages in Poland- I suppose it is slowly changing now. In Poland there are also many single women in their 30 attractive, educated, independent- and exactly they prefer to be single than just marry for the sake of marriage. it is difficult to explain as in general english women are not much different from polish but they seem to be more independent ( not about money, education ...) but about their social position in England.

Arien	Aug 11, 06, 12:15 / #
Quoting: Al8, Post #21 And it's my thread, I don't mind it being hi-jacked okay, that's a relief.. but I'm bothering you people with my situation and I really shouldn't, because most of you don't understand anyway. maybe if I told you my whole story you would. but I don't think it helps anyone, so I will continue to.. do nothing. sorry I let myself go, I guess a part of me wants to air everything out. you people should carry on with the relation stuff. <<