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Polish positive attitude



miranda   Mar 21, 07, 09:53 /  #
Does it really exist and if it does - where is it?
daffyThreads: 40
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its creeping im sure i know many poles who are happy, but asw to bein g 'optimistic' about poland and its future, i think they are slowly changing
miranda   Mar 21, 07, 10:07 /  #
I have a friend in Poland, who, eventhough has been retired found her calling in organizing dancing classes for older women.
She is happy, extended her cirlce of friends, got additional source of income and planning to expand her bussiness in years to come.
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I've found Poles to be very energetic in following their business ideas.

The ways of speaking just sound very modest though. What really gets me is they say things like "chyba" which translates as "perhaps" but actually means "probably". Hence they often sound uncertain to speakers of other languages.
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Quoting: miranda
Does it really exist and if it does - where is it?

I think people like your friend are leading examples for others to follow....it might not be overly abundant right now, but over time, positive attitude will grow as the successes of others become apparent. Kudos to your friend, btw.....that's awesome.
King SobieskiThreads: 7
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so, there is an actual reason for my pessism.

and my ex girlfriend thought it was just me.
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Quoting: daffy
i know many poles who are happy



Thats me!

Can't make me mad for long
miranda   Mar 21, 07, 19:44 /  #
Quoting: King Sobieski
so, there is an actual reason for my pessism.


oooh, yaaah............
pingwinThreads: 3
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Quoting: daffy
i know many poles who are happy



Much of life is a function of our outlook. I believe it is our attitude toward it. Challenges can be stumbling blocks or stepping stones. It's just a matter of how we view them. A positive attitude can help us overcome all.

My way of looking at life is through attitude, I once saw a saying at a doughnut shop that comes to mind and sums it up pretty much.

"As you ramble on through life, brother,
Whatever be your goal,
Keep your eye upon the doughnut,
And not upon the hole."
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there is more negitive attitude of polish then positive.(that what i heard from people) i can't quote on it myself, cos i havnt met that many polish people. but nowatime its just the same everywhere. people try to stab everyone in their back, take advantage of anyone. things are fast changing.
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Quoting: miranda
Does it [Polish positive attitude] really exist and if it does - where is it?


If it does not exist, then certainly Poland would have never been revived again and again in its troublesome history (because it did not worth doing!)
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Heh, I'm rather pessimistic type, but in contacts with others I try to be positive. It benefits for both sides.
superprotege   May 10, 07, 19:43 /  #
hi friends
i believe if you learn to cultivate a positive mindset or attitude, it will not do you any harm. in fact, it might even changes your life for the better.

many successful men and women have attributed their success to having a positive attitude in whatever that comes their way. i guess there must be some truth in it.

recently i came upon this web site that is giving away this free report that tells the story of how this gentleman turned his life around with his positive mindset. if you are keen to grab a free copy, you can visit abundancemanifesting.com/freereport

i think it will be a good read for most of us.. have a look if you are free..

:)
ladystardustThreads: 1
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Of course, I believe that Poles may be very energetic, optimistic and positive. I just think, that deep down, each of us have this feeling, that the positive attitude is very much make-believe and we're always at a huge risk of getting a crap end of the stick eventually ;) I wouldn't call this pessimistic - ironic, maybe, and definitely realistic. And I absolutely love it in Poles :D
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Quoting: ladystardust
I just think, that deep down, each of us have this feeling, that the positive attitude is very much make-believe and we're always at a huge risk of getting a crap end of the stick eventually ;)


Maybe a bit fatalistic then. Partly I think this is due to Poland's history since 1945. On the other hand that history may well be a contributory factor to some other traits that I saw. The 'can do' attitude, inventiveness, wanting to beat all the barriers. My view is that the fatalist nature will erode over time. This is really a new dawn for Poland, a new chapter in your history. I bet Poland will be a big success going forwards. I wish you all well.
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Quoting: szarlotka
This is really a new dawn for Poland, a new chapter in your history. I bet Poland will be a big success going forwards. I wish you all well.


Szarlotka, you're not Polish, right? Because this attitude is kinda rare here, and I wish it wasn't... Anyways, whenever I hear anybody saying that I feel like hugging this person - thanks!
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Quoting: ladystardust
Szarlotka, you're not Polish, right?


Correct. I'm a Brit. I'm also an optimist by nature, but tinged with realism. I believe in what I wrote. You cannot undo 60 years of history in three years. It takes a bit longer than that. I think there will be interesting parallels with the Irish experience. Not so long ago the Irish economy was struggling. After some inward investment from the private sector and the EU things picked up. I have lost count of the Irish American and Anglo-Irish friends of mine who have moved back, armed with business acumen and experience gained from working abroad to make new businesses there. Now the Irish economy is very strong. I believe the same will happen to Poland. The only warning I would give is not to accept too much inward investment so that the capital in Poland is not owned entirely by the US, GB, France & Germany.
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Or you could be like the uk about 1.5 trillion in debt . Hospitals, health care ,and education is cutting back, 40% of schoole leavers can not read and wright properly the roads are falling apart, the avrage personal dept is about £60 k without a mortgage of about another £90 k ,intrest rates going up, loads of people earn less than they owe, but who cares cos they have just got a new plasma tv and now they can watch people sleeping on big brother.

As long as we can find some one else to blame ,every thing is cool ,you should try this method, it will make you feel much better unless you are a realist.
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Yeah...but....Eamon.......the average persons wealth and general wealth of the country is still rather big....6th biggest GDP in the world......even if most of it is owned by a select group of people or multinationals.

Quoting: szarlotka
Now the Irish economy is very strong.


Falsely so.........as Daffy will point out...mostly due to the Irish equivalent of a gaelic Marshall plan........the amount of building, renewal, renovation...in the last 10 years is the same as 1/3 of all the building done in its entire history.......it now appears to be levelling off.
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Quoting: Frank
Yeah...but....Eamon.......the average persons wealth and general wealth of the country is still rather big....6th biggest GDP in the world......even if most of it is owned by a select group of people or multinationals

The avrage family is fairly skint and in debt, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, they just dont know it yet,
Matyasz   May 13, 07, 02:23 /  #
Quoting: szarlotka
Maybe a bit fatalistic then.



Yep.

Basically my great grandfather was a very optimistic fella. He was born in times where the sheer idea about existance of Poland was beautiful, yet almost unralistic dream. According to my living family members that had the pleasure to know him, he definately was a doer. He took part in the Grater poland Uprising and war against Bolsheviks - both ended up with a full success for Poles. He achieved his dram, after over century, poland was back on th map.

My grandfather was similiar to him, very positivly driven, believed Polish government that in 1939 that the nation will have to sacrifice a lot, but that finally it will pay off. After the end of WWII, when we landed on the wrong side of the iron curtain, he became a little bit bitter...

My father is a total fatalist, cynic, pesimist... I remember 1989/1990 when he really was full of hope, that everything will be finally good now... Everybody was. It wasn't long when everything came back to normal.

I guess I'm definately more optimistic than my father, but still I can't get rid of my cynic side. Maybe my son will be just like my great-grandfather... I surely hope so. :)
ladystardustThreads: 1
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Optimism is really difficult now - I've read about last week yet another vetting (i believe this is the ENG word for all this former UB and SB hullaballoo) and my fears are only getting bigger and uglier. How can you be an opimist when basically nothing optimistic happens around you?
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Hay ladystardust just make good stuff happen around you, grab every opportunity, make what ever you wont to happen happen,
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Quoting: pingwin
"As you ramble on through life, brother,
Whatever be your goal,
Keep your eye upon the doughnut,
And not upon the hole."
this makes me smile... very positive minded
im polish and im usually optimistic
but than again i can hold grudges for a long time
it just matters who you are
not if your polish or not
everyone has they're own attitude
polish people just want to be optimistic , as if raised that way to always look at the positive and not the negative ...makes me proud to come from such a happy country :)
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