Single Polish teenage girls getting pregnat

Quoting: goldie

especially when you get into the trap of having to choose whether to work or stay on benefits, especially when you can actually get more on benefits. if you work you loose housing benefit and council tax credits so you can be worse off....not fair

EnemyCommanderThreads: 9 Posts: 9 Joined: Nov 15, 06	Jun 17, 07, 12:04 / #
is it considered somewhat acceptable if single, teenage polish girls get pregnant? this year we had a foreign student in my francuski class and i'm guessing she got pregnant. but her family emigrated to somehwere around cologne so is it acceptable in germany as well? because she seems either very mature about it or very proud (but that's just my guess. however when i asked her if she was pregnant she denied it but its just that it was strongly hinted she was. after all that probably was a personal question...)

kanazuki	Jul 25, 07, 15:25 / #
It depends on how old is she and where she grew up. Maybe she didn't told you because people doesn't accept her as a young mother and she was afraid that you'll do the same.

dannyboyThreads: 24 Posts: 298 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Jul 25, 07, 20:21 / #
Only place its accepted is England, they reward you over there with a house and social welfare.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Jul 25, 07, 21:11 / #
Quoting: EnemyCommander EnemyCommander Not to get too personal, but at the same time, I guess I will.....why are you interested in whether or not she is pregnant? Not that I expect you to answer me, but did you take advantage of a young girl's lust and think that possibly you got her pregnant......or, are you truly concerned with this girl's welfare? I'm not judging you.....but we need to know the details behind this scenario.....

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jul 26, 07, 05:58 / #
Quoting: dannyboy Only place its accepted is England Thats what you think, whilst we dont stone single mothers, they are looked down on and in no way accepted as "normal" quite the oposite.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jul 26, 07, 06:00 / #
Quoting: dannyboy they reward you over there with a house and social welfare. With the situtation with housing stock over in the UK, that also is not the case, maybe a room in a house with lots of other single monthers as for social welfare, £60.00 a week to feed and cloth both yourself and your child is hardly a reward its basic for living.

AngliKobieta	Jul 26, 07, 08:26 / #
Quoting: Ranj I'm not judging you.....but we need to know the details behind this scenario..... Sorry Ranj but i disagree, the only question this guy has asked is, is it acceptable for a single teenager to get pregnant. I dont think we need to know if he is doing this out of the kindness of his heart or if he has some involvement with her.

AngliKobieta	Jul 26, 07, 08:27 / #
Quoting: Amathyst maybe a room in a house with lots of other single monthers as for social welfare, £60.00 a week to feed and cloth both yourself and your child is hardly a reward its basic for living. Well that maybe for some but at the school that I used to go to I have just heard of 3 girls who got pregnant just so that they could recieve a council house of their own. They got it as well.

goldieThreads: - Posts: 45 Joined: May 29, 07	Jul 26, 07, 12:02 / #
Quoting: AngliKobieta maybe a room in a house with lots of other single monthers as for social welfare, £60.00 a week to feed and cloth both yourself and your child is hardly a reward its basic for living. Have you not missed out that you have your rent paid, council tax, you probably get child benefit and where are the CSA Do not tell me that you are hard done by....i know of single mothers who are managing quite well... As far as i beleive single moms go to the top of the housing list, or are loaned deposits for private rental and and housing benefit pays the rent.. correct me if I am wrong

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 26, 07, 12:13 / #
Quoting: EnemyCommander after all that probably was a personal question. Duh ! So why are you so interested ? Quoting: EnemyCommander i'm guessing she got pregnant. I 'm guessing it takes two !

telefonitika	Edited by: telefonitika Jul 26, 07, 13:56 / #
Quoting: dannyboy Only place its accepted is England, they reward you over there with a house and social welfare i guess i must have missed that trick then. i wasnt handed a house on a platter from the local council or a social security payment except for child benefit which everyone is entitled too! I've lived in private accomadation since leaving home when i was 17 and had to work in full and part time job positions as a single mother when i did have my daughter 9 years ago and i am still doing the same today!! society has many classes and "labels" of people whom it frowns upon be it single mothers (note single fathers get less flack) .. students ... party-goers etc ... society will never change!!

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07	Jul 26, 07, 15:57 / #
Quoting: goldie choose whether to work or stay on benefits, I see your point. There are definitely a large amount of teenage single mothers who remain on benefits because they think its their 'entitlement'. I know a girl who had a baby, gets all the benefits and basically never sees her child, she's always off out, her kid knows her aunts/uncles/cousins better than she knows her Mother. Yes there are single Mothers who remain on benefits simply because for to work, it would cost them money in child care etc and therefore there is no real point in working. Amathyst - an old friend of mine (I rarely see her now) had a baby when she was sixteen to a guy she thought would stick around - he didn't. I thought she might go down the benefits route and for a while she did - the coucil house etc. Then she changed her mind, moved her and her daughter into a room in her parents house and worked her rear end off getting her nursing degree. She bought a house a couple of years ago with her new husband and her daughter and is a respected member of the maternity team at the local hospital. Although she lived with her parents they didn't pander to her.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Jul 27, 07, 12:27 / #
All Polish teenage girls should get pregnant as soon as possible for these reasons: 1) it is a form of Polish nation building & a protection against Polish being overwhelmed by immigrants...2) the new mothers & children can possibly emmigrate to the UK, further strengthening good relations w/the Brits!

telefonitika	Edited by: telefonitika Jul 26, 07, 13:57 / #
Quoting: goldie As far as i beleive single moms go to the top of the housing list Have you not missed out that you have your rent paid, council tax, you probably get child benefit no we dont queue jump on council waiting lists!!! i certainly havent and i have been on a list 9 years now! child benefit EVERY mother is entitled to whether single or married or divorced or widowed!!! rent and council tax are paid only if on a low income and certain tax bandings ... i pay full rent and council tax each month with no help towards costs!

goldieThreads: - Posts: 45 Joined: May 29, 07	Jul 26, 07, 15:09 / #
Ok maybe it depends on which area you live in.... i guess i was thinking about people with homeless status....... I am sure that basic benefits total more than £60 per week for one adult & one child.........if i am wrong then i apologise

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jul 26, 07, 15:27 / #
Quoting: goldie Do not tell me that you are hard done by.... Im not a single mother and I dont think a lot of women intend to be "single mothers"

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jul 26, 07, 15:31 / #
Quoting: goldie I am sure that basic benefits total more than £60 per week for one adult & one child......... I dont think its a lot more...do you think that they live in the lap of luxury?

goldieThreads: - Posts: 45 Joined: May 29, 07	Jul 26, 07, 15:36 / #
Quoting: Amathyst lap of luxury? no i do not, but it is not as bad a picture as you are painting

goldieThreads: - Posts: 45 Joined: May 29, 07	Jul 26, 07, 15:40 / #
there is nothing wrong with single mothers , i respect them for the hard job it is to bring a child up on your own especially when you get into the trap of having to choose whether to work or stay on benefits, especially when you can actually get more on benefits. if you work you loose housing benefit and council tax credits so you can be worse off....not fair

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Edited by: Amathyst Jul 26, 07, 15:45 / #
Quoting: goldie especially when you get into the trap of having to choose whether to work or stay on benefits, especially when you can actually get more on benefits. if you work you loose housing benefit and council tax credits so you can be worse off....not fair Goldie, one of my oldest friends became a single mother after her husband feked off back to Greece because he didnt like the weather here! She has waitressed whilst studying for a degree, she gets tax credits and her tips have helped, people like her and tele are the ones to be admired because they chose to work - in fact my friend has bought her council house in this time, so if someone has a goal and is willing to work then they reep the benefits. I cant say Im happy that my tax goes towards silly girls who think having a kid is fun - a "one for my syndrome"! but I know they dont have it easy, its just they have no expectations and so what little they get they make do with....

goldieThreads: - Posts: 45 Joined: May 29, 07	Jul 26, 07, 15:52 / #
amathyst my sisters husband was unfaithful, so they split up, she had to go on benefits and rented privately...she eventually found a job, it was hard but she managed... now she is married again has had another child has her own home & is training to be a nurse. Some young girls though do get pregnant deliberately to get housed....mind the kind of housing they get is not very desirable... each to their own i guess

Single Polish teenage girls getting pregnat - is it acceptable?