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BeyondtelThreads: 1
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Dear All.

I am James from China. My company is the voip prodcut manufacture in China. And we realy would like to develop Poland market. For we think Poland and China are in very good relationship and good friendship.

But also I heared of something that people in polish is not interested in Chinese goods. Think they are not in good quality. Is it really? I hope we can have the misunderstanding cleared here. At least, Not all the chinese product in poor quality. Why not have us the chance to clear the truth?

my msn is happy-tom@hotmail.com. Glad to communication with you
slwkkThreads: 3
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Quoting: Beyondtel
Think they are not in good quality. Is it really?


The thing is there is thousands of products manufactured in China all over the world... I think that most things that typical European/American own were made in China. So... when even a few things are low quality and someone see that they were made in China she/he thinks that your products are not worth spending money on. So the real problem is quantity of Chinese products ... they're just everywhere. My 0,03$....
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Quoting: Beyondtel
My company is the voip prodcut manufacture in China.


And you use a hotmail msn account? Hmm
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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standard practice in china szarlotka... they dont seem to realise it destroys all credibility...
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Quoting: BubbaWoo
standard practice in china szarlotka...


Hey I've learned something new. I've never done business in China so thanks for that.
slwkkThreads: 3
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Quoting: szarlotka
And you use a hotmail msn account? Hmm


What's wrong with that? Some Polish companies use Gadu-Gadu to contact with customers... it's especially often seen on Allegro where they sell their goods. btw, I have nothing to do with them, but in this case at least they have web site beyondtel.com
away guyThreads: 12
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Quoting: slwkk
What's wrong with that?



I agree , im a dealer and trades man , i use a hotmail account too, and im no scammer :-)
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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it will damage your credibility - and gadu gadu isnt the same
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Quoting: szarlotka
What's wrong with that?


How about a lot of corporate firewalls blocking the use of hotmail to stop their employees spending all day nattering to their mates. Maybe not where you are but in a lot of UK comapnies you cannot get out! Plus it's not perceived as being vet professional over here.
slwkkThreads: 3
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Quoting: away guy
I agree , im a dealer and trades man , i use a hotmail account too, and im no scammer :-)


Yeah, companies just use things which people uses .... another example - skype, plenty of companies use it to communicate with clients.
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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using a generic email account and wanting to appear anything more than a very small operation is not a wise move... if you are part of a larger company, as the OP is claiming, why doesnt he have a company email

using skype etc is totally different slwkk
slwkkThreads: 3
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Quoting: BubbaWoo
it will damage your credibility - and gadu gadu isnt the same


I know that using for example yahoo/hotmail mail account instead of one in company domain is sth unproffessional, but using IMs I wouldn't consider as a bad practice.

btw, msn and gadu-gadu are IMs, a bit different, but still IMs.... so why company using gadu-gadu is ok, and one which use msn isn't

Quoting: szarlotka
How about a lot of corporate firewalls blocking the use of hotmail to stop their employees spending all day nattering to their mates.


Well, in some cases there is sales department and salesmans should have full access needed to communicate with other companies, including IMs.
slwkkThreads: 3
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Quoting: BubbaWoo
using a generic email account and wanting to appear anything more than a very small operation is not a wise move... if you are part of a larger company, as the OP is claiming, why doesnt he have a company email


Bubba, he has proff email, take a look at: www.polishforums.com/voip_products_china_looking-14_10521_0.html

I think that in this topic he gives msn just because he want to talk on IM...
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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i dont consider using IMs as bad practice, they are valuable communication tools, but very few companies will use a generic IM system to communicate with their clients
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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Thanks for your replies here. In fact it is common in China don't use the hotmail as the msn account. For it is ok. I think you can have a try. I am sorry make you think it is the scammer. But I think deed is the most important. How do you think of this?
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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Dear friends.

Thanks very much for your prize here. Thanks Swlkk. You help me a lot here.

Yes, Just as Mr Swlkk mentioned here. Here it is not the former business offer. So I don't think it is necessary to have my company's business email address here. Here I just would like to communicate with my friends to know how do you think of Chinese goods.

Here is my business offer www.polishforums.com/voip_products_china_looking-14_10521_0.html. And my business email is james@beyondtel.com. My product is the usb phone and Ip phone. Thanks
magda09Threads: 1
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Quoting: slwkk
Some Polish companies use Gadu-Gadu to contact with customers

must be a polish customer :) :D
Justyna69 Edited by: Justyna69   Jun 18, 07, 13:13 /  #
Quoting: Beyondtel
I am James from China

Hi James. I like chinese food. Please open up some restaurant near by Mikolajki / Masurian Lakes :-)
magda09Threads: 1
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Quoting: Justyna69
Justyna69

maybe then he will need a polish girl :D, as i see most do here :). I am polish, but you are younger ;) , you think polish GIRLS would prefer chinese men?
ola123   Jun 18, 07, 14:21 /  #
Chinese products in Poland have opinion of low quality and cheap products. High earners dont buy Chinese products too often but a lot of other earners do. The most known are Chinese t-shirts, which you can throw away after 2 weeks :). That is common opinion but truth lies probably imho somewhere else. There are for sure quality Chinese products. Good luck.
away guyThreads: 12
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we all think that chinese products are shittt but if we look around at our belongings such as pc'c,cell phone and all our electric things with good firm names nearly all come from China so i dont have a problem..
WroclawThreads: 77
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The Chinese are able to produce a cheap product with acceptable quality. They can ship it to Poland and still undercut Polish manufacturers. The Chinese are putting some Polish workers on the dole and causing some small businesses to collapse.
I for one can do without you.
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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Dear All.

Thanks for your opinion on Chinese product. But why not we talk about the reason? At first I would like to clear that there are many many cost-effective products. But also some of them are poor quality. So why not talk about the reason for the low quality? I know some merchant is not good business man, They made chinese products in bad reputation.
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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So I would like to know, When you hear of made in China. You just think it is very low end? and then will charge very very low price and take them as copy?

I think there is bad circle. For you charge low price. The merchant to make profit, So he will make the cargo in poor quality. Then you think you are cheated, And then you charge lower price, And then poorer quality. and again again.
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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but i know many of business man really charged in good price, But still get the poor quality products. And some of chinese merchants are not true businessman. They made chinese product in bad reputation.
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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The Chinese are able to produce a cheap product with acceptable quality. They can ship it to Poland and still undercut Polish manufacturers. The Chinese are putting some Polish workers on the dole and causing some small businesses to collapse.
I for one can do without you.

Thanks very much for your kindly comments
BeyondtelThreads: 1
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Quoting: Justyna69
Hi James. I like chinese food. Please open up some restaurant near by Mikolajki / Masurian Lakes :-)


But I am still in China. But really I am good at cooking. When you are in China. I am really glad to invite you to enjoy tradditional Chinese food.
Justyna69   Jun 19, 07, 03:12 /  #
Quoting: magda09
you think polish GIRLS would prefer chinese men?

I can't speak for Polish women. I don't have any preferences as far as the origin of my potential partner but I'm not "looking" anyway :-)
Justyna69   Jun 19, 07, 03:17 /  #
Quoting: Beyondtel
When you are in China. I am really glad to invite you to enjoy tradditional Chinese food.

Thank you for your invitation and kindness. :-)
reksan   Jun 19, 07, 07:17 /  #
I am Polish from Australia - almost everything on our markets is made in China, I have no complains, the quality is very good, we did have period of a real junk coming from China and Japan, but it emproved about 10years ago, and now it is impossible to find many products made in Australia. I think Poland as the new market for chinese business is being fladed by unsalebles from beginers producers, but they will have to do better than that to stay on. By the way Beyondtel I still can not get over "Wild Swans".
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