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im trying to move to polska (krakow) from texas and need advice.



darianThreads: 1
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im planning on moving to krakow when i graduate highschool.
i need to know how much rent,bills,food,and clubbing are going to be!

any info is helpful. :)

xoxo,
darian.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Ask PGTX, she lives in Texas and is from Kraków. She's your woman
SeanBMThreads: 41
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Hello darian,
And welcome to the polish Forum.
Have you been to Poland before?
Costs depend very much on where you would like to live.
The capital Warsaw is possibly the most expensive.
Best of luck
loco polacoThreads: 3
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it's way more expensive then TX, it's also colder and there are way, way less gay dudes in PL then TX. :D
PolskaDollThreads: 44
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darian:

i need to know how much rent,bills,food,and clubbing are going to be!


It depends on where about in Krakow you choose to live and how much you want to spend on those things I suppose.

Why do you want to move to Polska?
Easy_TerranThreads: 4
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PolskaDoll:

Why do you want to move to Polska?

Because drinking age is 18 over there. When he's 21, he'll be back to TX :)
loco polacoThreads: 3
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Easy_Terran:

Because drinking age is 18 over there. When he's 21, he'll be back to TX :)

that has never stopped one kid from drinking, here.
polishgirltx   Dec 3, 08, 16:55 /  #
darian:

how much rent,bills,food,and clubbing are going to be!

sorry, my info is not up to date...

my advice: get an apartment near to AGH campus which is situated in Krowodrza (part of Krakow; Al. Mickiewicza 30
30-059 Kraków)... it's close to the center, and you'll meet lots of students and make friends :)
HarryThreads: 62
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darian:
im planning on moving to krakow when i graduate highschool.
i need to know how much rent,bills,food,and clubbing are going to be!

You'll be paying at least 1800zl for a liveable apartment near the centre. For internet, cellphone, electricity and telephone you can add another 400zl. Food costs more in Poland than the USA. How much you spend is going to depend on what you eat and how often you eat out. If you're going for a night out (a bar or two followed by a club or two) you need to allow at least 100zl and more like 150zl to 200zl.

There are 3zl to $1 at the moment but that rate will soon fall to more like 2.5zl to $1.
darianThreads: 1
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Joined: Dec 3, 08 		Edited by: darian   Dec 11, 08, 14:54 /  #
thanks :)
ive been to poland a couple of times.
&& no its not bcuz of the drinking age, even tho the clubs are badass, hah.
i just love it over there.

ohh, and what about jobs?
i know its hard to fnd them in polska . . .
Lotnik767Threads: 6
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You need about $2000 a month do be well off
darianThreads: 1
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well id need a job to make money,
any helpful suggestions? :)
SeanBMThreads: 41
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darian:

any helpful suggestions?

What are your skills, education and experiences?

Teach English
darianThreads: 1
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i have no experiences!
im not even out of high school.

Teach English ???

okay, like at school or privately?

my polish isnt perfect! btw.
SeanBMThreads: 41
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darian:

okay, like at school or privately?

In a private school gets you more money.

darian:

my polish isnt perfect! btw.

It is not necessary to speak Polish to teach English.
Lotnik767Threads: 6
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Oh I thought your parents will pay for you never mind! If you find a job in Poland with out a sill (good luck) you will make only like $300 a month. Best of luck
darianThreads: 1
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Joined: Dec 3, 08 		Edited by: darian   Dec 11, 08, 15:28 /  #
what the fu*k are you serious?
300 american?

hah, no my parents wouldnt pay for me,
ill be on my own!

well shit how do the rest of yall make it?
&& i was just making a point that my polish wasnt perfect!!
noimmigration   Dec 11, 08, 15:35 /  #
darian you will not be moving to europe unless you have at the very least a university degree; even then it is unlikely unless you have outstanding skills in an area of work shortage.
darianThreads: 1
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umm thanks?
and i plan on going to college so dont worry about that.



people make a living working at bakerys n stuff,
why wouldnt i make it with a college degree?
delphiandomineThreads: 42
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First of all, you do realise that non-EU (maybe even non-Polish, I'm not sure...) residents will have to pay tuition fees in Poland? The cost of those, combined with the cost of living...it's pretty unlikely that you'll be able to earn enough here in order to survive.

Secondly, your youth will probably count against you - although they like native speakers here, they're only going to take you on if you have the maturity and experience - and someone straight out of high school is going to suffer in that respect.

As for people making a living here in bakeries and so on - yes, they do, but you're forgetting that they often have many people to a small apartment (for example, 6 to a 60sqm apartment isn't abnormal) and they only have the administration costs of the apartment to worry about. When you've got rent to pay, it's considerably harder.

Take my advice and get the degree in America first. You'll find it so, so, so much easier that way :)

(oh, you asked for costs...)

Rent - anywhere from 400zl to 2000zl a month. I've got no idea about Krakow, but in Poznań, it's definitely possible to find a room for 400zl a month.

Bills? In a shared flat, maybe about 200zl a month?

Food can be ridiculously variable - it's probably easy to live here on about 40zl a week, but eat anything that isn't native to Poland and the prices will shoot up.

Going out - can be as cheap as 4zl for a beer, but equally so, paying 8-9zl for a beer can happen too. Just depends where you go - but student pubs, probably about 5zl on average.

But bear something in mind - wages can be horrifically low here. You'd probably struggle to get regular work here at a decent wage - but let's assume you can make 2000zl a month gross. That can easily turn into 1200zl net - and that's before rent, bills and transport costs. Then you have to consider the costs of tuition into this - and it's highly unlikely that you'd make enough money to survive.
darianThreads: 1
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thanks for all that info!
i talked to my mom and im going to get a degree here first,
then move.

im going to save money here to get a head start.
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