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Karta pobytu help - property ownership problem



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I have been in Poland for over a year now and I still can't get my karta pobytu because the local townhall is insisting that everyone registered as being an owner of the property has to say they agree that I am a residing at the address given. Is this correct?
As it stands, 1 of the 'owners' is dead, another is having a hissy fit and others aren't contactable.

Please help as I need to get the card so I can get my NIP and a bank account.
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Hmm... I don't know but aren't you getting karta pobytu from regional, not local administration ?
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Grzegorz_:

aren't you getting karta pobytu from regional, not local administration ?

First local for 3 months, then you have to get a regional one but I got the local one and 2 weeks before it was "out of date", I went to get the regional one but they needed a month to process it, so it was already out of date (before it was out of date)????. If you understand it, you need your head examined. I counted the girl had 13 stamps in front of her, so I just left.
It is not as bad here as in other countries in the E.U, but this is a Polish forum soooo.

Isn't there talk of getting rid of this whole mirigmaroal?
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Got the local, then had to go to Warsaw to get paperwork for the regional one. When I went back to pick it up from Warsaw I was given a slip of paper and told to go back to the local office to get the actual card.... it's driving me insane.
inkrakow   Sep 5, 08, 08:52 /  #
Does your building have an administrator? He/she is usually appointed by all the owners to represent them and deals with these sorts of issues.
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90% of that beaurocratic **** should be flushed down the toilet, we hate It no less than foreigners but each and every government only talk crap and do nothing.
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Nope. It's a private family home. Unfortunately, my husbands' gran passed away without making a will and so they registered all those who survived her as owners which has made it impossible to even get gas hooked up to the house.
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If you can't solve the problem then maybe just give a bottle of vodka to some friends of your husband and they will say that you are residing with them...
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Been trying that too, but everyone is in the same situation here... normally the school I'm working for rents an apartment for teachers, but they haven't for me - that said, they haven't helped me at all with any of the paperwork.
I think I might keep the bottle of vodka for myself - or see if I can by a 1% share in the property or something.
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Bebi:

Been trying that too, but everyone is in the same situation here...


It can't be... just talk with the neighbours...
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I have done. Most of our street is owned by 2 families and rented out. Have even offered to rent an apartment for a couple of months from one of them just to get it sorted, but she doesn't want anyone else registered at her address. The only other one I know in my area is owned by an ex-pat living in the US and she said she would think about it then disappeared back to the US for another year. Have asked my boss, but as long as I haven't got the card he doesn't feel any pressure to register me at work (which is a bit stupid given that my name appears on a lot of the official documents as an employee).
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Bebi:

the local townhall is insisting that everyone registered as being an owner of the property has to say they agree that I am a residing at the address given.


What do you mean by 'property'? the building? the apartment?

In my case all I needed was a copy of the deed of the apartment I live in (the owner didn't have to write or do anything IIRC). This was a couple of years ago but I would have thought things wouldn't have gotten harder....

And if your husband is a Polish citizen I thought it was easier still, how is he registered? Is he an owner?... I suspect somebody at townhall is making problems for no reason or holding out for a bribe.
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mafketis:

I suspect somebody at townhall is making problems for no reason or holding out for a bribe.

Same thoughts here.
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