Warsaw Vs Krakow which is best for raising family and working in?

szarlotka:

Probably your best bet is to get a job in a multinational at home and transfer out to PL with them. Obviously the transfer would take time. Getting a job 'cold' in Pl with no Polish language skills is very difficult as you would expect. Might be worth checking out the companies with international call centres in PL that handle nglish calls and customers. Wouldn't be my choice but.....

Gen	Dec 2, 08, 10:20 / #
Hello everyone, Just from your experiences, where is it easier to find a job. Krakow or Warsaw. I'm also wondering if there are companies that hire english speaking people that you only work with english. Also, I know Warsaw is one of the most expensive city in the world. Where is the best place you're most likely to save some money in Warsaw or Krakow minus all the expenses. Which city is best to raise a family? Warsaw vs Krakow...

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Dec 2, 08, 10:37 / #
Hello Gen, And welcome to the Polish Forum. Krakow is nicer :) But Warsaw is the capital. Teaching Eglish is probably the easiest thing you can do. Where are you from? Krakow is better

puercoespinThreads: 1 Posts: 155 Joined: Jun 8, 08	Dec 2, 08, 11:12 / #
polishgirltx: Krakow :) by far :)

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Dec 2, 08, 11:14 / #
Gen: Also, I know Warsaw is one of the most expensive city in the world. Er, I know it's not a cheap capital city any more but this may be a slight exaggeration. Try Moscow or London or Tokyo if you want expensive.....

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Dec 2, 08, 11:28 / #
Warsaw is bigger, more people. Depending on the area you want to live, they are both nice.

Gen	Dec 2, 08, 11:37 / #
Hi I'm from Canada, Thank u for the greetings, I thought English before in Poland, it's not something I'm into. I'm wondering if there are companies in Krakow that you just work in English. I think Warsaw has a few companies that are from other countries that work requires only for you do work in English, that's what I heard but I'm not sure if that is true or possible. And Warsaw is on # 35 as the most expensive city in the world way more expensive than Toronto which is at # 54 WOW.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Dec 2, 08, 11:46 / #
Gen: Hi I'm from Canada, Hello Gen, The reason I asled is because it is important to answer you comment about Warsaw being one of the most expensive cities in the world. Although this statement is true to a certain extent, you will probably find it cheaper than Ottawa. But this is an assumption on my part, I have never lived in Warsaw or Ottawa. I live near Krakow. Krakow is nicer. Gen: I'm wondering if there are companies in Krakow that you just work in English. That is a very vague question, I would suggest getting something that suits your skills and/or education. Gen: And Warsaw is on # 35 as the most expensive city in the world way more expensive than Toronto which is at # 54 WOW. really? who said that?

Wyspianska	Dec 2, 08, 11:53 / #
Yeah that's some bullshytting about Warsaw being one of the most expensive cities in the world. Capitals, maybe.

KrakowiankaThreads: 2 Posts: 272 Joined: Oct 16, 08	Dec 2, 08, 12:21 / #
Krakow is better for raising a family & just plain living. If you want to make more money (not teaching english, but big int'l co), and sacraifice a longer commute (to save on rent costs), then Warsaw is good.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Dec 2, 08, 12:32 / #
most expensive cities to live in (2008) Toronto 24th Warsaw 44th I should say this was just the first site I pulled out of the net, I do not know if it is true but at a guess I would say Warsaw is a lot cheaper than Toronto. Actually Moscow being 37th does not look right on that list. I hear that Moscow is quite expensive?. Ah sure there must be a million ways to make such a list

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,360 Joined: May 30, 08	Dec 2, 08, 13:39 / #
Definitely Warsaw....

Gen	Dec 2, 08, 14:41 / #
SeanBM: Gen: And Warsaw is on # 35 as the most expensive city in the world way more expensive than Toronto which is at # 54 WOW. really? who said that? Forbes and also mercer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_cities_for_expatriate_emp loyees

Gen	Dec 2, 08, 14:51 / #
Krakowianka: Krakow is better for raising a family & just plain living. If you want to make more money (not teaching english, but big int'l co), and sacraifice a longer commute (to save on rent costs), then Warsaw is good. So there anything else I can do rather than teaching English in Krakow. My skills and experience are Customer service, Administrative Assistant, Office Clerk, and in the transportation logistics area. I wonder if there are companies like that you just work with English.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Dec 2, 08, 14:55 / #
Gen: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_cities_for_expatriate_emp loyees I found it on Mercer. 35 Warsaw march 2008 I can't find it on Fordes Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. I still think it is not accurate, I can't imagine Warsaw being that much more expensive in comparison to other countries. What does it mean to be the most expensive city for expatriates? Does this mean expats get ripped off? I don't mean to badger the point, I am just curious now.

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Dec 2, 08, 14:56 / #
Probably your best bet is to get a job in a multinational at home and transfer out to PL with them. Obviously the transfer would take time. Getting a job 'cold' in Pl with no Polish language skills is very difficult as you would expect. Might be worth checking out the companies with international call centres in PL that handle nglish calls and customers. Wouldn't be my choice but.....

Gen	Dec 2, 08, 16:06 / #
szarlotka: Probably your best bet is to get a job in a multinational at home and transfer out to PL with them. Obviously the transfer would take time. Getting a job 'cold' in Pl with no Polish language skills is very difficult as you would expect. Might be worth checking out the companies with international call centres in PL that handle nglish calls and customers. Wouldn't be my choice but..... So my best bet would be to stick with English Teaching... rather than that it's call center stuff... yikes..

dxxThreads: 17 Posts: 118 Joined: Jul 22, 08	Dec 3, 08, 06:38 / #
I work in Krakow for IBM and don't speak any Polish either :)

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Dec 3, 08, 07:34 / #
Gen: I wonder if there are companies like that you just work with English. Why would there be? To the extent they exist they're international and send people to Poland from other countries rather than recruit locally (except for Polish staff). My advice is to use connections (a way of life here). Try to get jobs teaching business English which can make you contacts. You might also hunt around in headhunter offices but again, knowing someone is key and without knowing Polish it'll be hard to make the right kind of contacts. Failing that try to find out where expats working for intl companies hang out and start hanging out there too.

Gen	Dec 3, 08, 08:23 / #
Well like one person said IBM, I think that is a choice, also Hitachi in Krakow. If you go to their career website all the job postings are in English. Makes me wonder if these positions you work in English. Then again same with Shell in Krakow their listings are in English but when I talked to them they said you need to also know Polish.

KrakowiankaThreads: 2 Posts: 272 Joined: Oct 16, 08	Dec 3, 08, 09:55 / #
Gen: listings are in English but when I talked to them they said you need to also know Polish. The listings are in English, because they seek bilingual people. If they write in Polish, many Poles with no english skills will apply. So this is a method to weed them out. SeanBM: Actually Moscow being 37th does not look right on that list. I hear that Moscow is quite expensive?. Moscow is #1 most expensive city in the world. Its followed by Tokyo; London; Oslo, Norway; and Seoul, South Korea. URL