Should "noimmigration" be banned permanently? Your opinions please.

time means:

and you want noimmi banned? pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

time means:

“I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking”
Woodrow T. Wilson quotes (American 28th President o

espana:

i do remember an argument with filios and gtd where they get banned for nothing ,,,,,,people do very nasty post and admin doesnt punish them at all. :( , so admi,is not equal :( and is not my fault

time means:

to be honest name calling has never bothered me and look at previous posts on here titled 10 things i hate about the english. surely that is racist also?

noimmigration:

in western europe we can say what we want, obviously some poles on this forum still think they are under communist rule.

Lir	Nov 29, 08, 15:49 / #
noimmigration: I just hope the mods know that catholisicm is based on forgiveness. Only after you have confessed and shown repentance :)

IronsE11Threads: 2 Posts: 799 Joined: Mar 3, 08	Nov 29, 08, 15:52 / #
miranda: miranda Don't leave. You are one of the few enlightened voices of reason on PF. time means: and you want noimmi banned? pot, kettle and black spring to mind. Exactly, if you are banning people for blatent racism or bigotry, I'm afraid nomiimi would only be the start of a long list which would include a number of established PF members. time means: “I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking” Woodrow T. Wilson quotes (American 28th President o Perfect. Many use the same reasoning when debating whether the BNP should be banned. espana: i do remember an argument with filios and gtd where they get banned for nothing ,,,,,,people do very nasty post and admin doesnt punish them at all. :( , so admi,is not equal :( and is not my fault They were warned about hijacking threads during an ongoing b1tching session. Either way, the suspension was short. I think the issue becomes more serious when numerous threads are spammed on a regular basis. time means: to be honest name calling has never bothered me and look at previous posts on here titled 10 things i hate about the english. surely that is racist also? Or Polonius' thread on homosexuality? noimmigration: in western europe we can say what we want, obviously some poles on this forum still think they are under communist rule. In the EU, member citizens can freely move where they want. Some Brits on this forum still wish they couldn't. Times change babes, get over it ;)

Lir	Nov 29, 08, 15:56 / #
IronsE11: Don't leave. You are one of the few enlightened voices of reason on PF. She already has because she does not want to contribute to a forum where such a poster as nonimmigration is allowed to come back and post in the same offensive manner time after time. I totally agree with her .

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Nov 29, 08, 15:56 / #
IronsE11: They were warned about hijacking threads during an ongoing b1tching session. ok and people do racist nasty comment in this forum and is ok , come on!!!!!!!

pawianThreads: 80 Posts: 4,542 Joined: May 30, 08	Nov 29, 08, 15:57 / #
noimmigration: Jesus forgave those that hammered nails into him, just as I forgive those that are trying to crucify me, by banning me from this forum. I just hope the mods know that catholisicm is based on forgiveness. I don`t think they see Jesus in you and wish to have you crucified. If we stick to the Bible, the story of an adulterous woman would suit here better. According to the Gospel of John, the Pharisees, in an attempt to discredit Jesus, brought a woman charged with adultery before him. Then they reminded Jesus that adultery was punishable by stoning under Mosaic law and challenged him to judge the woman so that they might then accuse him of disobeying the law. Jesus thought for a moment and then replied, “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.” The people crowded around him were so touched by their own consciences that they departed. When Jesus found himself alone with the woman, he asked her who were her accusers. She replied, “No man, lord.” Jesus then said, “Neither do I condemn thee: go and sin no more.”

Lir	Nov 29, 08, 15:58 / #
My question is this . What's the point of having a Mission Statement if you don't follow and act on it ? Sort of defies the very reason to have one ? :)

noimmigration	Nov 29, 08, 16:00 / #
Lir: She already has because she does not want to contribute to a forum where such a poster as nonimmigration is allowed to come back and post in the same offensive manner time after time. Tell her to send us a postcard

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:01 / #
Have you broken any laws in your time Pawian?

Lir	Nov 29, 08, 16:02 / #
noimmigration: Tell her to send us a postcard Huh ?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:02 / #
miranda: Should "noimmigration" be banned permanently? Your opinions please. definitely not. why are you making such stink of this? let it go hon

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Nov 29, 08, 16:07 / #
noimmigration: Go on and honour your ancestors my ancestors are polish.. I voted ban you. because you dont want my polish brothers and sisters to live and work in the UK. so why should you get the choice of freedom of speech.. or can both exist in your world together ?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:11 / #
Are you familiar with St Paul in Romans? 2.23 I think All trangressions of the law are sins according to it. A complete negation of the idea of civil disobedience. Can we have a discussion or are you just gonna reaffirm your Catholicism?

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Edited by: Patrycja19 Nov 29, 08, 16:14 / #
noimmigration: Lir why dont you go and slip into a coma. this is why he shouldnt even have a chance.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Edited by: time means Nov 29, 08, 16:18 / #
Patrycja19: this is why he shouldnt even have a chance. it seems the fairer sex are more offended than there rougher counterparts.

Lir	Nov 29, 08, 16:03 / #
plk123: definitely not. definitely , YES !

pawianThreads: 80 Posts: 4,542 Joined: May 30, 08	Nov 29, 08, 16:04 / #
Seanus: Have you broken any laws in your time Pawian? Yes, I am a sinful man.

noimmigration	Nov 29, 08, 16:08 / #
Lir why dont you go and slip into a coma.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:26 / #
noimmigration: Lir why dont you go and slip into a coma. I have no wish to ban every body who does not agree with me , i respect their rights to say what they feel even if it goes against all that i believe...The point is..that this guy is just offensive , most of his post are just intended to shock , upset or insult people , and that i believe is against forum rules.... the fact that most of us want to see him banned suggests that he does not contribute anything that anyone wants to hear.... Even in a free society there has to be a limit on what people can publish here.....

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:28 / #
Admin is monitoring this, trust me. He is waiting to gain a rounded perspective on what members want. Although I revile insults and personal attacks, noimmi does make some valid points. I don't condone his scathing indictments but they can be challenged. Trolling is a forum phenomenon.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Nov 29, 08, 16:36 / #
ban him and its the thin end of the wedge. who will be the next target? surely freedom of speech is exactly that, even if it comes from ones arse.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:44 / #
Look at politicians. They just have more legitimacy. Take, for example, some BNP hardliners. They should be put away but they are left at large. Life is not ideal!!

Wahldo	Nov 29, 08, 16:51 / #
You ban people like noimmigration they'll still be around; you just won't know what they're saying, planning etc. This is the problem with censorship; it actually makes you less safe rather than safe.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 29, 08, 16:54 / #
Yeah, like taking guns away from people. They will find ways of getting them

noimmigration	Nov 29, 08, 16:56 / #
well, being a student I do have access to some 2000 computers. :)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Nov 29, 08, 16:57 / #
Should "noimmigration" be banned permanently? Your opinions please. If noimmi is banned, then I will no longer be posting on this forum. On reflection, i don't know if this will just mean the people who want me out will have their say. But that is not the point. I like you Mirinda, and if we met, I am sure we would have been good friends but this is blackmail, a non-negotiable ultimatum of which I will not stand by for. People, Do as you must. I am sure you will ban noimmi and you have good reason, I will not even attempt to defend his comments. I will await your verdict. (and maybe post on other threads before it is over).

Wahldo	Nov 29, 08, 17:00 / #
noimmigration: being a student I do have access to some 2000 computers. :) yeah see, the knucklehead has a point, he'll just adopt different monikers.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Nov 29, 08, 17:01 / #
This is tricky.....if we ban him we lose Sean , if we don,t we lose Miranda , both of whom are valued members of this forum.....no easy answer here....

noimmigration	Nov 29, 08, 17:03 / #
If I am banned I will be back tomorrow with a differan I.P and name. give it a your best shot. :D

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Nov 29, 08, 17:05 / #
My money's on Mirinda, i like her, i am sure we all do. I hope non of us have to leave.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Nov 29, 08, 17:10 / #
SeanBM: I hope non of us have to leave. i hope so. let sense prevail and end the ban talk. i dont find his comments offensive. in fact i find then amusing. every village needs a idiot.