Should "noimmigration" be banned permanently? Your opinions please.

Misty:

Noimmigration posted pictures on the website that were in extreme bad taste. He got suspended for a few days for that. The long and the short, he made an error of judgement in posting those pictures but in reality (as hello posted on the first page) those images were already available to anyone who has google (ie - everyone on PF).

Misty:

Now. miranda protested about his being allowed on the site. Some agreed, some disagreed. There is a poll.

Misty:

Result (so far). noimmigration remains, miranda doesn't. So what do we conclude? The troll was fed until he burst, miranda got nothing out of it except not being able to post for a while because she told everyone she was leaving. Hmm...

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Nov 30, 08, 11:37 / #
Welcome to page 6. Cotton wool, anyone?

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Nov 30, 08, 11:39 / #
osiol: Cotton wool, anyone? Nah, Napalm

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Nov 30, 08, 11:40 / #
JustysiaS: noimmigration got his satisfaction and attention so give him all the negative attention.. hes wanting to look like the biggest arsehole across the pacific and atlantic from here to there. why not!! lets make him an award .. bet that makes him feel really good.. wonder if the grinch has a heart.

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,868 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Nov 30, 08, 11:44 / #
Patrycja19: so give him all the negative attention.. hes wanting to look like the biggest arsehole across the pacific and atlantic from here to there. why not!! lets make him an award .. he will just laugh how everyone gets all serious and wound up about his crap. ignore!

Lir	Nov 30, 08, 12:44 / #
Admin: But then you don't put your money where your word is (you know what I mean ;). I don't wish to keep adding to this thread but feel the need to respond to this. If you are referring to the fact that I have left and rejoined PF several times then it is no secret, I have said so on this forum that I have. I didn't threaten to leave in fact, I would rather stay and debate the issue :) Lir: Please don't go Miranda. Maybe we ought to write to Admin, collectively, and let him know how some of us feel. I feel the same way you do and really don't wish to be identified as being on the same forum as such a poster. That is what I said , if I remember correctly ? Admin: Your comments suggest he posted something that blatantly broke the forum rules (which he did), but he has never been banned for that (which is not true). I didn't mean he hadn't been banned before. I was concerned to see him back the same as Miranda. And I have been astonished at some of the stuff he has written. I know that you and PD <and any other Mods> do suspend or ban where you deem it is necessary. But if someone constantly keeps getting suspended and constantly keeps coming back and doing the same things then it's a bit like being told off that you have done wrong, go away for a bit then come back and do exactly the same over and over again. Admin: If after another ban he breaks the rules again, he will be banned for a month. In some time ban time may come to a full year. I know you take these things seriously and will make the right decisions regarding what action if necessary needs to be taken at that time but I would have been really sorry to see Miranda leave in this situation as a popular, regular member of PF :) I could say more but am going to leave this as it is now, cos I accept the fact that prolonging this thread is in no ones interest but noimmigrations.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,059 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Nov 30, 08, 12:52 / #
Lir: But if someone constantly keeps getting suspended and constantly keeps coming back and doing the same things then it's a bit like being told off that you have done wrong, go away for a bit then come back and do exactly the same over and over again. "a bit" will gradually increase. Next time it will be a week, yet another time a month, two months etc. To me that seems the best way to go. If somebody shop-lifted ten times and does it again 11th time, he won't get a death sentence, will he? Lir: I would have been really sorry to see Miranda leave in this situation as a popular, regular member of PF Lir: I have left and rejoined PF several times Admin

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Nov 30, 08, 12:56 / #
Can i just ask, why did Miranda leave???

Wahldo	Nov 30, 08, 12:58 / #
Admin: If somebody shop-lifted ten times and does it again 11th time, he won't get a death sentence, will he? Yeah, this isn't the Singapore Forums.

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,868 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Nov 30, 08, 12:59 / #
tornado2007: Can i just ask, why did Miranda leave??? cos noimmigration wasn't permamently banned and she doesnt enjoy reading his comments

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Nov 30, 08, 13:07 / #
JustysiaS: cos noimmigration wasn't permamently banned and she doesnt enjoy reading his comments while i like Miranda, i have to say this is a public forum, where many people will and have the right to express their views. I do not think, no matter what is said, somebody should be band for life. You can either accept their comments, ignore them or react to them. In my view Miranda has her own way of dealing with it, leaving the forum. You can't turn a decision just because somebody makes a marter of themselves to make a point. I hope Miranda comes back but if she dosen't then its up to her

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,606 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Nov 30, 08, 13:19 / #
I don't think anyone cares noimmigration says ,because it is easy to ignore him. Putting pictures of someone burning to death, on a thread about people losing their lives in a fire accident, is distasteful and a different matter.

noimmigration	Nov 30, 08, 13:30 / #
My Mum never gave me this much attention, thanks guys

MistyThreads: 6 Posts: 196 Joined: Jul 20, 08	Nov 30, 08, 14:03 / #
I don't think you understand the precedent that banning noimmigration for good will set. There will be a lot more regular members receiving suspensions for their rants against Asians, Pakistanis, Indians, Turkish etc, etc. It all falls under the same tree I would guess. noimmigration: My Mum never gave me this much attention, thanks guys See, that just says it all, he's enjoying it. People here used to say "don't feed the troll" but are doing exactly that. I doubt threatening to leave the forum would make any difference on the decision to ban him anyway.

cjjcThreads: 37 Posts: 463 Joined: Jul 26, 08	Nov 30, 08, 14:06 / #
Misty: See, that just says it all, he's enjoying it. People here used to say "don't feed the troll" but are doing exactly that. Catch 22 Doh! :(

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Nov 30, 08, 13:16 / #
Wahldo: this isn't the Singapore Forums Did I see someone chewing gum?

Wahldo	Nov 30, 08, 13:25 / #
osiol: Did I see someone chewing gum? lol, cane that bastard!

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,868 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Nov 30, 08, 13:26 / #
yeah those pictures were very inappropriate, i suppose it was his attempt at humour. a very bad one.

ArcticPaulThreads: 49 Posts: 245 Joined: Apr 7, 08	Nov 30, 08, 13:31 / #
Just ignore the prick! This kind of attention is exactly what he craves.

noimmigration	Nov 30, 08, 16:10 / #
Negative energy makes me stronger, so shower me with hugs and kisses

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Nov 30, 08, 16:21 / #
JustysiaS: cos noimmigration wasn't permamently banned and she doesnt enjoy reading his comments it wasnt just because of that. theres other things. that just put the icing on the cake.

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,868 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Nov 30, 08, 16:54 / #
Patrycja19: it wasnt just because of that. theres other things. that just put the icing on the cake. is it just me who is bored with the who? why? what for?

MistyThreads: 6 Posts: 196 Joined: Jul 20, 08	Nov 30, 08, 17:02 / #
JustysiaS: is it just me who is bored with the who? why? what for? No. I'm bored too. Quick summary. Noimmigration posted pictures on the website that were in extreme bad taste. He got suspended for a few days for that. The long and the short, he made an error of judgement in posting those pictures but in reality (as hello posted on the first page) those images were already available to anyone who has google (ie - everyone on PF). Now. miranda protested about his being allowed on the site. Some agreed, some disagreed. There is a poll. Result (so far). noimmigration remains, miranda doesn't. So what do we conclude? The troll was fed until he burst, miranda got nothing out of it except not being able to post for a while because she told everyone she was leaving. Hmm...

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Nov 30, 08, 17:04 / #
Patrycja19: put the icing on the cake. What kind of cake? Not a nice one, surely. Mmmm... carrot cake! Drool drool drool...

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Nov 30, 08, 17:08 / #
JustysiaS: is it just me who is bored with the who? why? what for? well, if your bored it isnt because of this thread. I am justifying mirandas reasons.. you two didnt get along that well so it doesnt surprise me you would get bored.. I like her, and so do many others.. and yes its a forum, but I am really certain NONE of these people would practice this behavior in public. if you did , it would be like asking for a arse beating. so why do it here? because you can? its just common courtesey to be nice to people. justy, are you the same in real life? or do you try to smile at others and be nice? I know I do. again, we go to the freedom of speech. yep, but I really doubt the majority of these people would say such things in public. but its ok to allow no immi to because we all feel sorry for him.. yep.. so then I post, someone will post after me, and so on.. the thread goes on, not for no immi, but for all the forum members because theres parts in each thread that people just talked to make small talk.. no immi thinks its all about him , but whats funny is, he still getting the same attenion he will always get.. until he apologizes.. which when puzzler was here at least he did apologize.. so the better man won.. Puzzler... southern doesnt even have the balls to be a man.. and apologize.. so with that.. the thread goes on..

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Nov 30, 08, 17:13 / #
Misty: Noimmigration posted pictures on the website that were in extreme bad taste. He got suspended for a few days for that. The long and the short, he made an error of judgement in posting those pictures but in reality (as hello posted on the first page) those images were already available to anyone who has google (ie - everyone on PF). what were the images??? Misty: Now. miranda protested about his being allowed on the site. Some agreed, some disagreed. There is a poll. a poll over a few pictures???? man people thought i was sad for having one about the singles section, ppppppppppppffffffffff. Misty: Result (so far). noimmigration remains, miranda doesn't. So what do we conclude? The troll was fed until he burst, miranda got nothing out of it except not being able to post for a while because she told everyone she was leaving. Hmm... Thats what happens if your willing to make a marter of yourself, you lose out!!!

MistyThreads: 6 Posts: 196 Joined: Jul 20, 08	Edited by: Misty Nov 30, 08, 17:15 / #
Patrycja19: so with that.. the thread goes on.. And is a complete waste of space really. The only result of this thread is that noimmigration goes to bed satisfied and miranda can't post for a while. torny, they were images of burning men (might be in random not sure) and they were bad but they weren't half as bad as some I've seen and some you could google. As I said before, there is a precedent to be set with this witch hunt so if noimmi goes, there's a whole lot of posters better think about what they post regarding other nations or else I imagine they'll be twiddling their thumbs for a few days.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Edited by: tornado2007 Nov 30, 08, 17:18 / #
Misty: And is a complete waste of space really. The only result of this thread is that noimmigration goes to bed satisfied and miranda can't post for a while. can't Miranda just re-join the site??? i mean sign in as somebody new, or what??? I've missed so much since i've been away for a while Misty: torny, they were images of burning men (might be in random not sure) and they were bad but they weren't half as bad as some I've seen and some you could google. ok, while i agree, the sight of a burning man isn't the sort of thing the average person likes looking at, if they are available for public veiwing then why can they not be posted here??? I've seen some horrible things both in real life and on the net, most recently researching about the Georgia/Russia war stumbled upon some very graphic pictures. While it wasn't exactly what i wanted to look at i didn't kick off about seeing them or reported the site they were on for posting them.

noimmigration	Nov 30, 08, 17:19 / #
theres nothing stopping miranda from posting, shes just looking for sympathy. Shell be back,

MistyThreads: 6 Posts: 196 Joined: Jul 20, 08	Edited by: Misty Nov 30, 08, 17:19 / #
I don't imagine miranda left. She's probably signing in now and then. noimmigration: noimmigration The best thing you could do right now is shut it. People are sticking up for you when you probably don't deserve it. They're not so much sticking up for you but for freedom of speech. Don't spoil it.