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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 10:59 /  #
Saul Wahl’s story is one of the most intriguing of all the legendary stories concerning Polish Jewry. It is said that he occupied the throne of Poland for a single day, August 18, 1587. During his brief time serving as Polish royalty, he supposedly enacted numerous laws protecting the Jewish population of Poland.


Nice and interesting legend.

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  Jul 5, 08, 11:05 /  #
It is the year 2008 now :)

Seriously tho, a nice bit of folklore. I read the article.
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  Jul 5, 08, 12:52 /  #
I would suggest a Polish king for Israel.
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  Jul 5, 08, 13:02 /  #
lets just leave it in that way for some polish-jewish Pandemonium shite ( way )
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 14:37 /  #
I only wated to sugest that Poland have interesting history. King was choosen in elections and everybody could be king ... there was religous freedom and tolerance... what is more Poland was inspiration for authors of american constitutuion.

http://www.polishforums.com/the_polish_socinians_american-34_24852_0.h tml


I see strong opposition (seanus, joe..)
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  Jul 5, 08, 14:45 /  #
The polish king of Israel.(he had a weakness in vodka).
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  Jul 5, 08, 14:47 /  #
Poland does have an interesting history, who can deny that?

The American Constitution gives the right to bear arms. Sorry, but that is just wrong in my book.
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 15:03 /  #
America is in crisise as whole west... like always people like you try to prove that has something to do with Jewish bankers.

Yes a lot of Jews are bankers...

Poland is nice example of democracy superiority. In 1500s Poland was strong (Jews Protestants Catholics were living together)

Later elites became stronger and system became weaker.

Poland was able to reform system Polish king was freemasson ;)

http://www.polishforums.com/freemasons_poland-38_16271_0.html

but our authorative neighbours couldn't accept country with such rights because it would be a problem for their authorative rulers. (we are going back to world and stronger countries imposing their rules of game)


going back to system ... something what used to work in 1500s later stoped to work because power was transfered form middle class to small group of people on peak and they were native Poles. 3rd may constituion was good idea but it was to late and enemies were to strong ...


going back to USA ... they need reforms but whole idea good.
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  Jul 5, 08, 15:04 /  #
The arms of a bear aren't so bad are they? I wouldn't want to see a gun in its hand though.
Wahldo   Jul 5, 08, 15:57 /  #
osiol:
The arms of a bear aren't so bad are they?


Russian bear? Probably not so bad. Always respect bears I say.
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:00 /  #
U clearly know little about Jewish banking ski. Come back when u have done ur homework
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 16:02 /  #
Seanus:
U clearly know little about Jewish banking ski. Come back when u have done ur homework



I am banker :) Polish banker with Jewish roots. :) I read with fascination topics about NWO :) and banking system
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:04 /  #
Yeah? And I'm Ariel Sharon
miranda   Jul 5, 08, 16:04 /  #
ski:
I am banker :) Polish banker with Jewish roots. :)

a banker or you work in the bank. LOL.
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:13 /  #
Seanus:
Yeah? And I'm Ariel Sharon

Nice to meet you. You look a lot different than I expected! Much woolier!
:)
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:14 /  #
Well, sorry 2 disappoint ya :(
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 16:21 /  #
I don't owe bank. :)


I work for Polish bankers - Zaleski family (Polish immigrants good chrisitian people ;) ), 5th place of the richest people in France. They decided to build new bank in Poland. I help them :)


You know Polish nobility tradtionaly had good relations with Jews ... all in all Jews were always colecting their taxes ;)
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:23 /  #
ski:
I only wated to sugest that Poland have interesting history. King was choosen in elections and everybody could be king ... there was religous freedom and tolerance... what is more Poland was inspiration for authors of american constitutuion.

Well, Israel has a constitution, yes?...actually, no...But a non-Jewish Pole could certainly become Prime Minister there, if not King, right?...No?...Why?
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 16:25 /  #
joepilsudski:
Well, Israel has a constitution, yes?...actually, no...But a non-Jewish Pole could certainly become Prime Minister there, if not King, right?...No?...Why?


I am not responsible for current Israel's policies. I am Polish.
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:28 /  #
Spoken like a true Jew, always commenting on riches and wealth.

That kind of talk will lose u friends in many circles but u r chosen by God so I guess u couldn't care, right?
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:29 /  #
ski:
am not responsible for current Israel's policies. I am Polish.

I understand...I was just asking a rhetorical question.
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:30 /  #
ski:
Later elites became stronger and system became weaker.


How elites could become stronger with liberum veto around?

ski:
but our authorative neighbours couldn't accept country with such rights because it would be a problem for their authorative rulers.


On other hand they needed to bribe one nobleman to block developments they disliked.


ski:
Poland is nice example of democracy superiority.

ski:
3rd may constituion was good idea but it was to late and enemies were to strong ...


You are inconsistent here. 3rd May Constitution reduced 'democracy'.
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Edited by: joepilsudski   Jul 5, 08, 16:35 /  #
ski:
I work for Polish bankers - Zalewski family (Polish immigrants good chrisitian people ;) ), 5th place of the richest people in France. They decided to build new bank in Poland. I help them :)

Zalewski?...cousins of my mother are named Zalewski!...I will have to ask her about them since I haven't seen them for years...I didn't realize that there were really rich Zalewskis in France...Interesting...There was a great middleweight champion of the world from the US in the late 40's named Tony Zale (Zalewski)...He fought some brutally tough fights against Rocky Graziano back in the day.
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 16:39 /  #
Seanus:
Spoken like a true Jew, always commenting on riches and wealth.

That kind of talk will lose u friends in many circles but u r chosen by God so I guess u couldn't care, right?


Scotish anti-semite... live your own life.

lesser:
How elites could become stronger with liberum veto around?


Magnats were stronger in 1500s or 1700s ?

lesser:
On other hand they needed to bribe one nobleman to block developments they disliked


When was the first time when veto was used in way that parlament couldn't continue it's work ? :)


lesser:
You are inconsistent here. 3rd May Constitution reduced 'democracy'.


Why ? :) because it abolished liberum veto ?




joepilsudski:
Zaleski?...cousins of my mother are named Zalewski!...I will have to ask her about them since I haven't seen them for years...I didn't realize that there were really rich Zalewskis in France...Interesting...There was a great middleweight champion of the world from the US in the late 40's named Tony Zale (Zalewski)...He fought some brutally tough fights against Rocky Graziano back in the day.



zalweski is good name ... noble. As I know when you want to change your surname it is not possible to take: Radziwił, Zaleski etc...
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:44 /  #
I am thank you.

I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm just pro-reason
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Edited by: joepilsudski   Jul 5, 08, 16:55 /  #
ski:
zalweski is good name ... noble. As I know when you want to change your surname it is not possible to take: Radziwił, Zaleski etc...

Wasn't Jackie Kennedy's sister married to a 'royal' Radziwill?...and I think that the Radziwills had a friend named Stasiu Koslowski who was a good friend of Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones.
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  Jul 5, 08, 16:58 /  #
ski:
In 1500s Poland was strong (Jews Protestants Catholics were living together)

No,they all lived in the same country,hardly "together" though.....
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  Jul 5, 08, 17:04 /  #
Some lived 'together' and the others just lived together
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Edited by: ski   Jul 5, 08, 17:06 /  #
isthatu2:
No,they all lived in the same country,hardly "together" though.....



It is redneck's version (Jewish, Catholic, Protestant)

How would it be possible when in some moments half of Polish parlament was protestant. To avoid this legendary Jewish king ;) how it would be possible when Jews formed some military units in Polish up-rises.


it is not true. esp, Polish nobility had close relationship with Jews... (Jews were colecting taxes etc.)
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  Jul 5, 08, 17:10 /  #
Just a question ski, what do u think of Ahmadinejad?

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