Mixed ethnicity with Germans and Russians *serious question

That night (30 April), the Russian army arrived. Rather than being liberators, they put the French women through a more hellish ordeal than what they had experienced in the camp. The women were raped repeatedly by Russian troops, to the point where some of them were too weakened to continue their journey.

When Soviet forces liberated the subcamp at Neustadt-Glewe, "they raped all the women and girls: Jewish, Hungarian, German-it didn't matter." A group of Jewish women from this subcamp believed that their emaciated condition (they weighed on average only 30 kg/66 lbs) would be a deterrent. It was not. Such behavior by Russian troops was extremely widespread, and as rumors of the rapes spread, many women either hid or tried to make themselves look sick and contagious when they learned of approaching Russian military units.

noimmigration	Jun 5, 08, 14:17 / #
Due to nazi and soviet occupation, do the poles have diluted polish blood. How far did the russians and germans inseminate the poles and does that mean all poles have german and russian blood.

scorpioThreads: 26 Posts: 196 Joined: Nov 15, 07	Jun 5, 08, 14:31 / #
I have both Polish and Ukrainian blood. That was due to lust and healthy hormones, not WWII. :-)

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Jun 5, 08, 14:50 / #
we're not as fvcked up as the anglo saxons. :D

noimmigration	Jun 5, 08, 14:54 / #
I am not anglo saxon, you are probably right.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 14:55 / #
ok our dear noimmigration ;) Russians haven't fuked us badly because we weren't officaly enemy. Their soldiers were punished for rapes on native Poles but I am sure that something could happen. Germans ... like everywhere in europe after the war it wasn't good thing to have german kid ... but maybe something stayed ... No body was so hardly fuked like germans by Russians ... every single woman ...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 14:59 / #
Lukasz: No body was so hardly fuked like germans by Russians ... every single woman ... Yup...your slavic brethren...what a light for the nations the slavs are... But then...most might have been a bit tired after coming through Poland: URL But he admits that he was "shaken to the core" to discover that Russian and Polish women and girls liberated from concentration camps were also violated. "That completely undermined the notion that the soldiers were using rape as a form of revenge against the Germans," he said. As for the millions of Russian prisoners or slave workers who survived the Nazis: those who were not executed as traitors or sent to the Gulag could count themselves lucky. The women among them were probably treated no better than the Germans, perhaps worse.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 15:03 / #
Bratwurst Boy: But then...most might be a bit tired after coming through Poland: as I said something could happen but rapes weren't normal... Bratwurst Boy: Yup...your slavic brethren...what a light for the nations the slavs are... as you know we don't feel enormous love towards russians. but ... when we look on fact that Germans murdered 20 mln Russians .... later Russians raped them ... and now Germans love Russians ;) so they have broken your psyche ;) there is weak point in German nation (brutal method) ... monument dedicated for Russian soldiers in Berlin ;)

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:05 / #
Lukasz: No body was so hardly fuked like germans by Russians ... every single woman ... Thanks God that even single russian boot didn't step on Croatian soil, (neither Brit ,neither USA.)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 15:06 / #
Lukasz: as you know we don't feel love towards russians. Ask Crow...aren't you all a happy slavic family??? :) Lukasz: so they have broken your psyche ;) there is weak point in German nation (brutal method) .. ??? Luki...you are talking gibberish again... I mean if my country would be run over in four weeks that would maybe have broken my psyche...but...

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Jun 5, 08, 15:07 / #
el Croata: Thanks God that even single russian boot didn't step on Croatian soil, Yes,because the Serbs did not allow them to enter after raping some Yugoslav women.However the Serbs entered Croatia and hunted the Croats till Austria.

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Edited by: el Croata Jun 5, 08, 15:31 / #
southern: Yes,the soviet troops entered Yugoslav ground from Bulgaria and they commited 100 rapes in 3 days.So the partizans asked them to live.They were on serbian ground. We Croats saying ' Polite word open all doors'. To bad Germans and Poled didn't know for that ;-). They should only polite asked Red Army to leave , he-he.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Jun 5, 08, 15:32 / #
noimmigration: does that mean all poles have german and russian blood. No. We did some maths last night on some other thread. There was no big conclusion other than the lasting effects are not huge, but undeniably present. I can't be bothered to find that thread now because my dinner is nearly ready. But the treatment of German, Polish and other women by the Russian soldiers does just show how low humanity can stoop. Although this case was particularly bad, it's not only Russians or only Germans who act in this way in a war. It had happened again and again through history, and regrettably, sickeningly, it will happen again. noimmigration: I am not anglo saxon There was little difference between Angles and Saxons. Scotland's heritage is not only Pictish (whatever that is), Irish (Scottish), Welsh, English and Viking (Norwegian), plus whoever else turned up later. Obviously not every Scot is a bit of all of these, but many are most of them and probably none are just one.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Jun 5, 08, 15:46 / #
el Croata: The Croatian Army massacred soldiers of 'Republika srpska krajina' 1995, many of whom were in retaliation Yes,in June at the same days when world's attention was centered in Srebrenica.Croatian army took initiative and started operation Storm which led to expulsion of 200000 Serbs from Craina who still remain refugees in Serbia.

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:51 / #
southern: Yes,in June at the same days when world's attention was centered in Srebrenica.Croatian army took initiative and started operation Storm which led to expulsion of 200000 Serbs from Craina who still remain in Serbia. Before that serbian leadership in 'republika srpska krajina' had refused peace agreement with croatia goverment. Who don't want agreement, got bullit. Old rule,he-he

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 15:10 / #
Lukasz: monument dedicated for Russian soldiers in Berlin ;) Don't tell me Poland doesn't had this kind of monument after the war??? Shouldn't you lick russian boots for liberation from the Nazis??? Your slavic brethren? Your saviours?

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:15 / #
southern: Yes,because the Serbs did not allow them to enter after raping some Yugoslav women.However the Serbs entered Croatia and hunted the Croats till Austria. Serbs didn't alow Russian to enter in Croatia? Wow serbs, I didn't know this. What, did you have A-bomb or criptonit? Serbs hunted Croat? Are you on LSD or what?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 15:19 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Don't tell me Poland doesn't had this kind of monument after the war???Shouldn't you lick russian boots for liberation from the Nazis???Your slavic brethren? Russians liberated Poland from Nazis. Yes Russians have killed many Polish people ... and there are different opinions about monuments of their army. Russians were suspicious towards Poles and generaly it was good thing that in 1944 front line moved quickly on west. But their officers were defending ordinary Polish civilians. Bratwurst Boy: Your slavic brethren? Germans were punished ... I am not going to comment this kind of punishment... in Poznan ( Polish and German citizens) Russians were raping only Germans ... so it was good thing to have Polish name or documents ... I am just thinking why Germans don't talk about it ... Germans killed 20 milons Russians ... and the fact that at the end recived small part of what they have done ... interesting

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Jun 5, 08, 15:20 / #
el Croata: Serbs didn't alow Russian to enter in Croatia? Yes,the soviet troops entered Yugoslav ground from Bulgaria and they commited 100 rapes in 3 days.So the partizans asked them to live.They were on serbian ground. el Croata: Serbs hunted Croat? The partizans hunted the ustashi till the last days of war and even after last day of war where they had come accompanying german troops withdrawing from Yugoslavia.There were massacred of ustashi by partizans,many of whom were Serbs in retaliation.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Jun 5, 08, 15:23 / #
Lukasz: I am just thinking why Germans don't talk about it .. Oh but we are talking about.... It's something Germans wouldn't do...only Slavs!

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:25 / #
Lukasz: btw Germans were much more barbarian than Russians ... and the fact that at the end recived small part of what they have done ... doesn't count ... Polish expeled 5 million Germans from Poland and take it their land. And that is 'small part'. I don't think so.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 15:27 / #
Lukasz: so it was good thing to have Polish name or documents ... ROFL...they even raped women just fresh from a camp...do you really think they waited till you showed them a pass??? :):):) URL That night (30 April), the Russian army arrived. Rather than being liberators, they put the French women through a more hellish ordeal than what they had experienced in the camp. The women were raped repeatedly by Russian troops, to the point where some of them were too weakened to continue their journey. When Soviet forces liberated the subcamp at Neustadt-Glewe, "they raped all the women and girls: Jewish, Hungarian, German-it didn't matter." A group of Jewish women from this subcamp believed that their emaciated condition (they weighed on average only 30 kg/66 lbs) would be a deterrent. It was not. Such behavior by Russian troops was extremely widespread, and as rumors of the rapes spread, many women either hid or tried to make themselves look sick and contagious when they learned of approaching Russian military units. el Croata: Polish expeled 5 million Germans from Poland and take it their land. And that is 'small part'. I don't think so. Yup...but always whining about "bad" Germans...they can't help it...

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Jun 5, 08, 15:28 / #
Bratwurst Boy: I mean if my country would be run over in four weeks that would maybe have broken my psyche...but... Well thats because you are a girly man! Such nonsens would never trouble us! HAHA! ;) Bratwurst Boy: Yup...your slavic brethren...what a light for the nations the slavs are... But then...most might have been a bit tired after coming through Poland: True. My grandma told me that women were usually hidden in cellars when Russian soldiers were stationing in the near. She also told me that when the Russians came to her home village she went to meet them with her cousins with flowers. The soldiers response was "We don't want your flowers. We want to F***." Why exactly are you both interested in this topic, if I may ask?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Jun 5, 08, 15:28 / #
Bratwurst Boy: It's something Germans wouldn't do... Bratwurst Boy: only Slavs! Russians ... I doubt that English people feel responsible for auschwitz because they have some anglo-saxon blood.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 15:30 / #
But we wouldn't rape them....when our soldiers had sex your women would come gladly to the "young blond barbarians" like in France...:)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 15:36 / #
Bratwurst Boy: But we wouldn't rape them....when our soldiers had sex your women would come gladly to the "young blond barbarians"...:) yes you are true Kraut. yesterday it was about French ... now it is about Polish. btw Germans are less blond than Poles... Bratwurst Boy: ROFL...they even raped women just fresh from a camp...do you really think they waited till you showed them a pass??? :):):) Russians haven't fuked everysingle woment in Poland ... in Poznan there was a lot of German girls ... btw ... you know that most Germans escaped form western Poland before Russians came (later they were catched near Berlin) you know that Russians cleaned most of western Poland form Germans ... and you sit quiet ... because you are not brave enought to admit that Russians cleaned you, Russians changed borders ... Russians won the war and were deciders. Poles are easy target because Poland is weaker than Russia.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 5, 08, 15:38 / #
Lukasz: Russians haven't fuked everysingle woment in Poland Yeah well, they neither did in Germany... And the french girls were crowing about the german soldiers not the polish! :) And of course I KNOW that the russians won the war for you that's why I was saying you better should lick russian boots and crawl into russian ass...:):):) But Poles are easy target...that's true! Always were..:)

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:41 / #
southern: The partizans hunted the ustashi till the last days of war and even after last day of war where they had come accompanying german troops withdrawing from Yugoslavia.There were massacred of ustashi by partizans,many of whom were Serbs in retaliation. The Croatian Army massacred soldiers of 'Republika srpska krajina' 1995, many of whom were in retaliation

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 15:45 / #
Bratwurst Boy: And of course I KNOW that the russians won the war for you that's why I was saying you better should lick russian boots and crawl into russian ass...:):):) you know ... all in all Russians liberated Poland. What is more everybody knows that Poles were not Germans for Russians ... yes war is war but in Polish towns there werent group sex celebrations organised by officers like in German towns ... huge difference. Bratwurst Boy: But Poles are easy target...that's true! Always were..:) again Kraut's face ! :)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jun 5, 08, 15:51 / #
at the end Russians monument in Berlin ! :)))

el CroataThreads: 5 Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Jun 5, 08, 15:55 / #
Lukasz: at the end sov monument in Berlin ! :))) Estonia (very small country) had courage throw to dust monument of fallen soldier of Red Army. Great Germani don't have. Interesting