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The RONA butchers in Warsaw 1944.



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Thanks to Norman Davies the Warsaw Uprising is better known today and even not mistaken wit the Ghetto uprising 1943.

The common knowledge is: Germans slaughtered the revolt not without the silent assent of comrade Stalin.

How unjustly for thousands of Russian anti-commie patriots known as RONA - Russian National Army of Liberation !
Only the infamous SS Dirlewanger Brigade, composed of criminal volunteers from German prisons and concentration camps, could match the deeds of Kaminski's SS Brigade.

Kaminski and his Russian Waffen SS troops were fully involved in mass killings of civilians - the heroes were rather useless in regular combat.

Once again the old scenario.
Russians killing Polish kids and women.
Other Russian watching them from the east-side of the Vistula river.
Stalin even refused to let U.S. planes use Soviet airfields for making supply flights ...
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Bronislav (also spelled Bronislaw) Kaminski was born in Vitebsk to a Polish father and German mother

So who he was?
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lol...
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Leon Trotsky was born in New York and was financed by a Jewish American banker.

Leon Trotsky wasn't even his real name. His birth name was Billy Carter.
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and I thought his name was Bronshteiyn...
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ConstantineK:
Bronislav (also spelled Bronislaw) Kaminski was born in Vitebsk to a Polish father and German mother


So you think my friend it makes a perfect excuse for 10 000 Russian heroes from RONA ripping 8 years old girls, killing everybody except regular troops ?

Me is thinking you've got some mental problems, bro.
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Who had raped them? Provide us with their names please, now I only know that some half blooded Pole had founded organisation having nothing in common with Russia except its name.
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ConstantineK:
ConstantineK


Maybe you should think about adopting Borrka?
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he-he... Well, he is a nice guy. He made a great job, thus we can clearly see that have Poland still breathe by spite toward us.
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ConstantineK:
Well, he is a nice guy


Jesus, only not that Constantine !


But back to the discussion.
I see it's a perfect win win situation for both of us.
I'm providing you with evidence for Polish everlasting sympathy towards Russians.

You just give me proofs how biased Russian history and national ideology are.
From the very beginning (see story of the stolen Kievian Rus' heritage) to the so called "liberation" of Central and Eastern Europe.

ConstantineK:
half blooded Pole had founded organisation


One short sentence and two lies.

RONA was founded (as militia) by Constanine (Ivan ?) Voskoboynik.
His classmate, the German-Polish engineer Bronislaw Kaminski (former volunteer in the Red Army during the Russian Civil War), was elected deputy commander.
Some names of commanding officers: Galkin, Tarasow, Turlakow, Proshyn, Filatow-Filatkin, Frolov ...
Guess what was their nationality ?

ShelleyS:
having nothing in common with Russia except its name.


Actually it was elite of Russian officers.
Plus some Russian Nazis.
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Borrka:
So you think my friend it makes a perfect excuse for 10 000 Russian heroes from RONA ripping 8 years old girls, killing everybody except regular troops ?



However, in most cases the reference is to 1,700 soldiers of the Waffen-SS Brigade RONA (Russkaya Osvoboditelnaya Narodnaya Armiya), a Russian collaborating force headed by Waffen Brigadeführer Bronislaw Kaminski. The RONA brigade, at the time of the Warsaw Uprising, was comprised mostly of Russians with Belorussian and Ukrainian minorities. Most were volunteers, ex-POWs, and Red Army deserters. In addition to RONA, German forces included some units formed with volunteers and ex-POWs from various Soviet Union ethnic groups: e.g. Cossacks, Kalmucks, and Azerbaijanis (Bergmann Battalion).
www.warsawuprising.com
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Famous fake - Putin's father as a RONA- soldier under command of Frolov during the Warsaw Uprising.

http://www.kontrateksty.pl/index.php?action=show&type=news&newsgroup=2 4&pf=1&id=2166
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Borrka:
Famous fake - Putin's father as a RONA- soldier under command of Frolov during the Warsaw Uprising.


And where is Medvedev's father? He should be there too...Also Yeltsin's and Gorbachev's somewhere in the back rows. BTW, may be you are stating that our next president will have "Frolov" name? Well, please tell me, maybe my father or grandpa Kuleshov was among RONA too?
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ConstantineK:

Well, please tell me, maybe my father or grandpa Kuleshov was among RONA too?


Dear friend Constantine I can hardly answer your question.
I suggest you better make some search through your belongings.
Quite possible you will find jewellery or watches with Polish inscriptions.
Must be a common finding in Russian families.
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Borrka:

Quite possible you will find jewellery or watches with Polish inscriptions.


Even if they had, be patient we already had melted them down to exterminate even traces of Poland's existence.
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ConstantineK:

to exterminate even traces of Poland's existence.


But have mercy with Mr Yastrembsky pls.
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Borrka:

But have mercy with Mr Yastrembsky pls.


I bet some day you will erect a monument in his honour in the center of Warsaw (with our help of course)!
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Let it be.
Nothing is better than destroying your pagan fetishes in "peredishka" times.
Russian voodoo lol.
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Boria&Kostia, take it easy guys. Stop quarrelling.

Boria, he's Yastrzhembski I believe.
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Borrka:

Let it be.
Nothing is better than destroying your pagan fetishes in "peredishka" times.
Russian voodoo lol.


He-he, it will be at the expenses of yours
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ConstantineK:

He-he, it will be at the expenses of yours


Oh well ...
No money, no fun.

Sasha:

Boria&Kostia, take it easy guys. Stop quarrelling.


Ay, ay Sir !
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Borrka:

No money, no fun.


We have, but for your own monuments you should pay yourself!
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