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szarlotkaThreads: 14
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I don't care but if you want to discuss it feel free - just get the hell out of ruining other people's threads with jingoistic sabre rattling
VaFunkooloThreads: 7
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And whilst we're at it, can we decide once and for all who has the biggest dad.
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Cant see as they are. What wars have the actual American military won? Vietnam, nope. Korea, nope. Even funding rebels they have failed i.e Cuba, Nicuragua (SP).

Isnt the best fighting force commonly agreed to be the French Foreign Legion?
miranda   Jun 27, 08, 07:48 /  #
no rant, just a comment: war is a bussiness most of the time.
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djf:
Isnt the best fighting force commonly agreed to be the French Foreign Legion?


Don't we need to quantify the question a little before we can hope to answer it?
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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djf:
Isnt the best fighting force commonly agreed to be the French Foreign Legion?


Because there are barely any french innit???
IronsE11Threads: 2
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djf:
Isnt the best fighting force commonly agreed to be the French Foreign Legion?


France and Italy are the only two nations to have reverse lights on their tanks.

FACT
z_dariusThreads: 22
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Bratwurst Boy:

Because there are barely any french innit???

:))
IronsE11:
France and Italy are the only two nations to have reverse lights on their tanks.

It's a great security measure. It helps minimize casualties in their own populations when they need to go full speed in the reverse gear ;)
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z_darius:
It's a great security measure. It helps minimize casualties in their own populations when they need to go full speed in the reverse gear ;)


Sometimes it's easier just to collaborate...

scott usa:
since we have the best milarty in the world


Well you are very good at shooting your own soldiers...
z_dariusThreads: 22
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IronsE11:
Well you are very good at shooting your own soldiers...

They don't spare Canadian soldiers either. And the military even have the audacity to call it "friendly fire".
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More UK soldiers were killed by so called friendly fire in the first Gulf conflict than by so called enemy combatants
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if you want to discuss it feel free

Deft move. Forcing them to show their hand for future reference. <we're taking notes> Guns, nice motif corraling rules O.K. :)
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Hueg:
Deft move.


True. Welcome Hueg. You missed your own 'where's Hueg' thread that was deleted in the great off topic lounge purge a while back. There were many flattering comments, some of which were about you.
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The French Foreign Legion is not made up of Frenchman but is a unit comprised of foreigners. The extremely tough, physical and pscyhological training are world renowned. Recruits have been known to die and suffer serious injury just in training.

Really no nation has the greatest fighting force. Each has its own specialist sections that are designed to do a certain job i.e. SAS, SBS, Navy Seals etc. Out of their specialist zone they all would be in trouble.
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VaFunkoolo:
More UK soldiers were killed by so called friendly fire in the first Gulf conflict than by so called enemy combatants


I'm afraid that's what you get when you connive with an ignorant,trigger happy bunch
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They have pulled Stalone out of retirement to breed a new generation of cannon fodder.

Oh well
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djf:
Cant see as they are. What wars have the actual American military won? Vietnam, nope. Korea, nope. Even funding rebels they have failed i.e Cuba, Nicuragua (SP).



You forgot to mention the Somali rag-tag army that brought them crushing down from their state of the art blackhawk choppers.
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Today I met my former student. He joined the army 5 years ago, is an NCO. He spent 8 months in Afghanistan, earlier he had served in Iraq.

We talked about various things, about Americans too. So, let me quote what he said, these are more or less his own words:

The American army is full of criminals and uneducated simpletons. Bush government is running out of soldiers to cover up all messy spots in the world, that is why they are taking convicts out of prisons, as well as dumb farm boys from armpit villages in Montana or Wyoming or any place wild enough (Wild Wild West :):) ). Those guys are very unruly and disrespectful, they wear rings/jewellery all over their faces, officers feel a bit intimidated etc.
The biggest problem was communication - he said his English was good enough to communicate with American officers and soldiers from other contingents, like Czechs, Canadians etc. However, talking to American rural boys or ex-convicts was futile - because nobody could understand them, including other Americans. :):)

Generally, he remembers Afghanistan and Iraq as hell on earth and doesn`t wish to go back there.
miranda Edited by: miranda   Jun 27, 08, 18:53 /  #
since we are on that subject. Canadian army reqruits Native Indians to fight for Canada in Afganistan, so as a result, they are fighting somebody else's war,therefore taking part in genocide their ancestors have experianced. It is really sick.
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Buffalo Soldier
miranda Edited by: miranda   Jun 27, 08, 18:55 /  #
Uncle Bob:
Buffalo Soldier
is that what they are called?
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Uncle Bob:
Buffalo Soldier


Thought buffalo soldier referred to Africans stolen from Africa and brought to America - according to that song anyway?
miranda Edited by: miranda   Jun 27, 08, 19:00 /  #
kingkong1:
Thought buffalo soldier referred to Africans stolen from Africa and brought to America

well maybe. I just looked it up and it appears that it Natives were used to fight along with the Americans in the Civil War.

There is a movie "Buffalo Soldiers" and it appears to the th epolitically correct version of the events. Oh, well.
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miranda:

well maybe. I just looked it up and it appears that it Natives were used to fight along with the Americans in the Civil War.


Thanx for that info. miranda. what'd some of us do without your vast knowledge base?
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miranda:
Canadian army reqruits Native Indians to fight for Canada in Afganistan, so as a result, they are fighting somebody else's war,therefore taking part in genocide their ancestors have experianced. It is really sick.


Such is the way of the world. A few years after the Jacobite rebellion some Highland regiments were raised by the British to fight in Canada and were involved in similar acts they themselves suffered from.

General James Wolfe, in the Battle of Quebec was quoted as saying that Scottish soldiers should be sent into battle because
"they are hardy, intrepid, accustomed to a rough country, and no great mischief if they fall."

Some things never change :-)
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kingkong1:
Thought buffalo soldier referred to Africans stolen from Africa and brought to America - according to that song anyway?


You are right. But my understanding is that the term also includes native Americans. I stand to be corrected
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Uncle Bob:


You are right. But my understanding is that the term also includes native Americans. I stand to be corrected


Sounds quite right native Americans too.
Arien   Jun 28, 08, 09:31 /  #
szarlotka:
Is the US military the greatest fighting force of all time?


No.

miranda:
no rant, just a comment: war is a bussiness most of the time.




I hear you, and unfortunately you're right.
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szarlotka:
Is the US military the greatest fighting force of all time?


I don't know If "of all time" but in modern times definately yes, however with so much money spent, It simply can't not be...
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For other uses, see Buffalo Soldier (disambiguation).

Saddle and accessories of the Buffalo Soldier.Buffalo Soldiers is a nickname originally applied to the members of the U.S. 10th Cavalry Regiment of the United States Army by the Native American tribes they fought. It was formed on September 21, 1866 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. The term eventually encompassed these units:

U.S. 9th Cavalry Regiment
U.S. 10th Cavalry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
25th Infantry Regiment
27th Cavalry Regiment[1]
28th Cavalry Regiment[2][1][3]
Although several African-American regiments were raised during the Civil War to fight alongside the Union Army (including the famous 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry and the many United States Colored Troops Regiments), the "Buffalo Soldiers" were established by Congress as the first peacetime all-black regiments in the regular U.S. Army.

On September 6, 2005, Mark Matthews, who was the oldest living Buffalo Soldier, died at the age of 111. He was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.[
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