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Will Poles fight with pride alongside The Gay Army?

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Edited by: hairball Jul 28, 08, 07:57 / #
Gay men and women now serve with pride and distinction alongside their heterosexual colleagues at the front line of operations worldwide - no longer having to hide. Newstatesman

Arien	Edited by: Arien Jul 28, 08, 08:10 / #
Well, they're just people aren't they? No one should have to hide for what he or she is. And to answer your question, I think they will, because I think some Polish guys and girls are bi-sexual, gay or lesbian too?

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Jul 28, 08, 08:22 / #
How they could be proud of being gay if they claim that this doesn't depend from their choice? It is simply stupid. I think the same about public parades devoted to issues linked directly with sexuality. This is clearly a private matter.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Jul 28, 08, 08:27 / #
lesser: How they could be proud of being gay if they claim that this doesn't depend from their choice? It is simply stupid. I think the same about public parades devoted to issues linked directly with sexuality. This is clearly a private matter. I agree with what you say, but I think the parades are more about making it more acceptable and more out there....creating awareness and so on..

Arien	Edited by: Arien Jul 28, 08, 08:28 / #
lesser: This is clearly a private matter. It is, and I don't agree with those public parades either. (I mean, have you ever seen a hetero parade?) But everyone should have the right of being able to be open about their sexuality when asked without recieving abuse of any kind.. lesser: This is clearly a private matter. To a certain extent, yes. I mean, how should those people find a date (Just like straight singles!) if everything about sexuality should remain a closed, and private matter? ShelleyS: I agree with what you say, but I think the parades are more about making it more acceptable and more out there....creating awareness and so on.. Well, I don't know if you've ever seen them in Amsterdam in broad daylight, but I don't think it's very good for the little children out there to see all sorts of half naked (Some almost naked!) adults all dressed up pretty kinky, waving with dildo's and making more of such kinky gestures? I'm pretty open-minded myself, but I do realize that we should think about the kids sometimes!

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Jul 28, 08, 08:43 / #
Arien: To a certain extent, yes. I mean, how should those people find a date (Just like straight singles!) if everything about sexuality should remain a closed, and private matter? They have their places for sure, after all such public parades are rare (at least in Poland). Arien: the right of being able to be open about their sexuality when asked without recieving abuse of any kind.. If one act stupid in a public place, he deserve somebody tell this to him. That is universal true.

Arien	Jul 28, 08, 08:51 / #
lesser: If one act stupid in a public place, he deserve somebody tell this to him. That is universal true. Is it? It all depends on what someone would call stupid wouldn't it? (And we all know how those opinions may vary!) I mean, if two men or two women would kiss eachother in a public place, then this wouldn't be an act of stupidity to me. These would be two people who like eachother. Because, straight couples are allowed to kiss eachother in public places aswell aren't they? I'm not sure what you mean to say with your post? Care to elaborate?

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Jul 28, 08, 08:58 / #
I write about such public parades..

miranda	Jul 28, 08, 09:03 / #
lesser: I write about such public parades.. where are you writing about them?

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Jul 28, 08, 09:04 / #
.......well, not if Messrs, Kaczyński have anything to say about the matter. Just prying open Poland's national purse under the Tusk regime in order to compensate deserving victims of Nazi aggression with former properties absconded with by the Communists, both abroad as well as in Poland itself, is proving too daunting a task. A gay army now?? Good luck, guys!!!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 28, 08, 09:04 / #
Actually gay men get a lot of pleasure in the army serving next to thousands of deprived males.

Dupek StupakThreads: 4 Posts: 81 Joined: Jul 22, 08	Jul 28, 08, 09:30 / #

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Jul 28, 08, 09:35 / #
Arien: I'm pretty open-minded myself, but I do realize that we should think about the kids sometimes! The problem with this conversation is that you Arien are Dutch. I say problem because the rest of Europe is in the dark ages in comparison to the Netherlands in many ways sexuality, use of soft drugs, prostitution, euthanasia etc... I had the pleasure of living in Amsterdam and I enjoyed it immensely, it opened my eyes to a lot of things coming from "good auld catholic Ireland", it was a real shock. I agree about the children. Why shouldn't gays be allowed to kill others and themselves in wars, like everyone else?

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Jul 28, 08, 13:42 / #
SeanBM: I say problem because the rest of Europe is in the dark ages in comparison to the Netherlands in many ways sexuality, use of soft drugs, prostitution, euthanasia etc... Euthanasia?...The National Socialists were in favor of that, weren't they?...for the 'weak and feebele-minded'...I believe the Communists favored euthanasia, too...Prostitution?...Well, don't many European countries permit and regulate that?...I don't think it is good thing, but regulation is probably better than criminalization...Soft drugs?...I'm ok with that...Gays only make up about 3-4% of most military services, and as long as they don't make it a 'special alternative lifestyle issue', I believe the whole thing is a bit of a red herring...However, I don't think the gay lifestyle should be glorified by any military outfit...As for the Netherlands, I believe that the more extreme social trends are promoted there, so how can they claim to be hostile to immigrant Muslims when they have abandoned almost all of their Christian faith and morality?...Is Holland the most 'politically correct' country in Europe...I read something from a Dane last week claiming that Denmark is the holder of this dubious distinction.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 28, 08, 14:28 / #
You miss understood me joepilsudski but I get the feeling you would not care anyway.

noimmigration	Jul 28, 08, 15:55 / #
when will a polish army ever fight ?, especially now they have eu protection (ie; british,german and french protection).

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 28, 08, 16:04 / #
Gay army can stand and even enjoy the bayonette.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Jul 28, 08, 17:14 / #
southern: Gay army can stand and even enjoy the bayonette Or maybe, the broomstick!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 28, 08, 17:21 / #
joepilsudski: Or maybe, the broomstick! You mean they will fly on broomstick?

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Jul 28, 08, 17:44 / #
Its simple really, if people who are gay don't want to be picked out in a crowd then stop having 'gay parades' its simple, if you don't draw attention to yourself the unwanted attention will slowly dissapear. If your gay then that is what you are, its nothing more or less than been straight. Its a simple matter that should just be accepted, people are gay and that is that.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 28, 08, 19:01 / #
Can you imagine a gay marshall shaking his butt to the enemy?

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Jul 28, 08, 19:06 / #
southern: Can you imagine a gay marshall shaking his butt to the enemy? aha so thats how those soldiers in WWII got shot in the ass :):):) i wondered what they were doing, lol. Band of Brothers was lying :):)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 08, 19:08 / #
As I said already some weeks back...gays can make fabulous warriors "Theban Band"....still famous! Sacred Band of Thebes So yes...in lighter times they even profited from gays...makes one think, doesn't it? :) Actually I think it's a church thingie only which makes gays such a taboo...earlier times had no problems with gays or lesbians!

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