What do Poles think of current President of Poland?

ShaneConrad:

lesser:
Vaclav Klaus, he should be president of Poland.

I did not know Vaclav Klaus was Polish. If that is not required, perhaps Putin should be the president of Poland? C'mon now there is plenty of people in Poland to become an effective President. Poles just need to be smart in voting for one... I have to admit they (we... I am one of them although not living in Poland) are getting better.

ShaneConradThreads: 1 Posts: 29 Joined: Mar 25, 08	Mar 31, 08, 23:14 / #
Both of Kaczynski brothers gained a lot of respect in their Solidarity days, but I would think that recent actions and statements coming from President Kaczynski have to raise questions in the country if he is the right man to represent Poland on this level. His homophobia or statements that internet is for deviant, porn seeking teenagers prove that he doesn't know the world that sourounds him. I am not asking if you are anti or pro gay, or if you recognize the value of internet. I would appreciate the following 1. Your opinion about President Kaczynski and 2. Do you know what does public think of him in Poland?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Mar 31, 08, 23:31 / #
ShaneConrad wrote: current President of Poland Very good.

KowalskiThreads: 12 Posts: 619 Joined: Sep 13, 06	Apr 1, 08, 03:51 / #
President Kaczynski ? - total ass. He should resign as he obviously is a one party President. As to what public think about him, opinion polls are here quite fair. Probably no President had such low popularity in polls ever. Funny that his low popularity is largely due to PR mistakes by his stuff. His power games are pathetic. I'm just glad it's PM who has real power in Poland not President office.

polyThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 26, 08	Apr 1, 08, 04:07 / #
Kowalski wrote: President Kaczynski ? - total ass. He should resign i like to give him free english lessons

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Apr 1, 08, 04:09 / #
I haven't been voting on him. I don't agree with him in many points. When it comes to Ukraine I agree with him in 100% the same as PM Tusk agrees with him in this case. This is why he is going to represent us on NATO summit.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Edited by: krysia Apr 1, 08, 05:03 / #
He's short, fat and ugly. He talks funny, his lips are drooling, he has a stupid expression, doesn't look like a leader.

polyThreads: - Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 26, 08	Apr 1, 08, 05:06 / #
his boil potatoes national pl

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,236 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	Apr 1, 08, 05:38 / #
Grzegorz_ wrote: Very good. Errrmm, not from the embarrassed Poles that I speak to and the guy has no grasp on reality and is making a mockery of Poles on the world stage.

ShaneConradThreads: 1 Posts: 29 Joined: Mar 25, 08	Apr 1, 08, 06:35 / #
Lukasz wrote: When it comes to Ukraine I agree with him in 100% the same as PM Tusk agrees with him in this case. This is why he is going to represent us on NATO summit. He apparently has some brains, one can see that even from his Solidarity days. It is just beyond me how person that has proven that has the ability to process more than basic thoughts can lack common sense to the extend he he does. Perhaps he grew up sheltered life and hasn't been exposed to a lot of things (e.g. using banking services), but at some point if you read, talk to other people and have some intellect you can draw conclusions on your own. He probably is so arrogant that he doesn't even consider other points of view. I don't have any other explanation.

matthiasThreads: 4 Posts: 1,577 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Edited by: matthias Apr 1, 08, 12:06 / #
I like him.... I like Tusk because he's more internationally concerned, and I like Kaczynski because he's more nationalistic.... They provide a nice counter balance to each other. Them having to work together, helps achieve a middle ground from the two extremes. As we all know the truth is always somewhere in the middle... Same goes for the right course for Poland.... Their are issues I agree with Tusk and their are issues I agree with Kaczynski... Poland needs them both.... Now as far as how they handle themselves... Tusk is much more sophisticated and I like his style.... Though it's important, their are things much more important. Tusk is unwilling to ruffle feathers and sometimes thats exactly what we need to do. It all depends on the situation. Differant tasks, differant politicans are needed to handle them. If we need to compromise, Tusk is the man.... Great compromiser and negotiator... If we need to hold our ground, then Kaczynski is the man for the job.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Apr 1, 08, 14:21 / #
I don't really like him, I have a bit better opinion about him before he was elected. Still I prefer him over Kwaśniewski or Wałęsa. This is good that he is so dependent from his brother because Jarosław is not socialistic to this extend. His loyalty to Brussels makes me sick.

matthiasThreads: 4 Posts: 1,577 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Apr 1, 08, 16:40 / #
ShaneConrad: employing entrapment to prove corruption I always wanted to debate this..... if a person isn't corrupt than he won't take the bait regardless of the manner the bribe is presented.....

ShaneConradThreads: 1 Posts: 29 Joined: Mar 25, 08	Apr 1, 08, 16:59 / #
matthias: if a person isn't corrupt than he won't take the bait regardless of the manner the bribe is presented I apologize matthias, but I think this is naive thinking (not saying you are naive, but the way you reason here is). People hired to trap others on criminal behavior are professionals at tempting. It is like saying a strong person will never sin. Even God recognized that people are sinful and have their weaknesses. Tempting was the "devil's" job; God did not send Angels to tempt. But let's get off this Christian horse and think of your weaknesses. Let's say it is women, and let's say prostitution is illegal (don't know where you live)... If I hire a hot, smart, witty police officer to try to trap you so you offer her money for sex you are cooked! It is wrong to make someone a criminal and then catch them on it, you just catch criminals, e.g. those who give bribes and those who take it!

matthiasThreads: 4 Posts: 1,577 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Edited by: matthias Apr 1, 08, 17:08 / #
ShaneConrad: People hired to trap others on criminal behavior are professionals at tempting. It is like saying a strong person will never sin. So because everybody does it makes it okey???? ShaneConrad: If I hire a hot, smart, witty police officer to try to trap you so you offer her money for sex you are cooked! Ill probably take the bait, but i won't be complaining when I get caught, I knew exactly what I was doing..... your point is, your saying everybody is corrupt and so let's not try to nip the problem in the butt.... Truth is politicians will think twice about taking a bribe once they see that the next bribe they take can be coming from a undercover officer...

ShaneConradThreads: 1 Posts: 29 Joined: Mar 25, 08	Apr 1, 08, 16:28 / #
lesser: If we need to hold our ground, then Kaczynski is the man for the job. I agree that Kaczynski has a good approach to certain things and in fact I share some of his points of view. However his approach to gay matters, modern life style issues (use of internet, banking), employing entrapment to prove corruption and many others put him in very negative light. I don't really care if I agree with ones points of view and beliefs. I can respect people that differ in an opinion from mine. There are certain things, though, that I cannot overlook. He is just close minded on some issues ("close minded" being very mild expression of what he really is). He is not well rounded person! If you select someone as a leader of the country you expect certain qualities from that person that can put him on this same playing field with other leaders. He just doesn't belong there!

ShaneConradThreads: 1 Posts: 29 Joined: Mar 25, 08	Edited by: ShaneConrad Apr 1, 08, 17:20 / #
matthias: your point is, your saying everybody is corrupt and so let's not try to nip the problem in the butt.... I am far from saying that everyone is corrupt. I am saying two things: 1. Everyone is human and has his(her) weaknesses so if you want to you will always find a way to corrupt that person. Having weaknesses doesn't make us corrupt, but just human! and 2. It is immoral to make someone criminal and then catch this person and punish him.

matthiasThreads: 4 Posts: 1,577 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Edited by: matthias Apr 1, 08, 17:25 / #
ShaneConrad: Everyone is human and has his(her) weaknesses so if you want to you will always find a way to corrupt that person. Having weaknesses doesn't make us corrupt, but just human very true, however as long as the entrapment is reasonable..... not like offering someone a billion dollars because everybody would probably take that deal..... ShaneConrad: It is immoral to make someone criminal and then catch this person and punish him. how is that making a person a criminal, he or she has a choice to take the bribe or not.... Let me tell you if I was a politian I wouldn't be bought for any amount of money.... now I don't think entrapment should be used against a regular joe, but a politician is supposed to be held to a higher standard especially because his decision can effect and hurt the entire country..

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Apr 1, 08, 17:54 / #
matthias: I like him.... I like Tusk because he's more internationally concerned, and I like Kaczynski because he's more nationalistic.... They provide a nice counter balance to each other. Them having to work together, helps achieve a middle ground from the two extremes. As we all know the truth is always somewhere in the middle... Same goes for the right course for Poland.... You are not is Poland. Right ? ;) I am not going to comment weaknesses of our president... ;) he is not very popular in Poland. ...

matthiasThreads: 4 Posts: 1,577 Joined: Jan 9, 08	Edited by: matthias Apr 1, 08, 18:03 / #
Lukasz: You are not is Poland. Right ? ;) Im not following....... I think Poland has been acting perfectly since Tusk become Prime Minister.... with a few minor problems here and there but nothing significant Lukasz: I am not going to comment weaknesses of our president... ;) yes, he has many weaknesses, however Tusk's makes up for those... as the President makes up for Tusk's weaknesses. Lukasz: he is not very popular in Poland. ... i know..........

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Apr 1, 08, 18:06 / #
ShaneConrad: modern life style issues (use of internet, banking) In both cases that's about Jaro. Banking was about not giving opportunities for provocations - sending him money and accuse of corruption. In case of internet he has a quite good point - read what he really said. Ducks are just not good buddies with big business and that's why they have bad press.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Apr 2, 08, 12:16 / #
ShaneConrad: lesser: Vaclav Klaus, he should be president of Poland. I did not know Vaclav Klaus was Polish. If that is not required, perhaps Putin should be the president of Poland? C'mon now there is plenty of people in Poland to become an effective President. Poles just need to be smart in voting for one... I have to admit they (we... I am one of them although not living in Poland) are getting better. This is really funny that you raise the issue of nationality. Majority of Poles don't seems to be opposed to giving up more and more competences from hands of local politicians to completely unknown for them Euro-bureaucrats. Those people would probably agree to have completely unknown for them president of the EU. In this circumstances your argument sounds ridiculous if you are one of those Poles mentioned above. If Polish politicians are not worth any trust they should be simply fired I would have not problems with signing contract with Mr Klaus, a serious, successful and honest man.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Apr 3, 08, 11:32 / #
What do Poles think of current President of Poland? crossed my mind, philosophicaly If me (Serbian) or, for example some Ukrainian, consider himself as Sarmatian, am i also Polish by anology, if we consider that Poles consider themselves as Sarmatians, too. what i want to ask- are Serbs or/and Ukrainians free to answer same question... What do Poles think of current President of Poland? - considering that it is question adressed to Poles

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 14, 08, 06:56 / #
He allegedly did well at the latest EU Summit but, then again, it's just the opinion of the media. The media shakes more than just hands ;)