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Ryszard Kukliński - Polish hero CIA spy durring cold war



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryszard_Kukliński

Ryszard Jerzy Kukliński (June 13, 1930 – February 11, 2004) was a Polish colonel and Cold War spy. Motivated by the desire to promote the Polish national interest, he passed top secret Warsaw Pact documents to the CIA between 1971 and 1981.


After the December 1970 massacre of Polish workers in Gdynia by communist forces, Kukliński contacted the CIA and offered his services as a spy. (According to another version, he was approached by the CIA in Vietnam as early as 1967.) Between 1971 and 1981 he passed 35,000 pages of mostly Soviet secret documents to the CIA. The documents described Moscow's strategic plans regarding the use of nuclear weapons, technical data about the T-72 tank and Strela-1 missiles, the distribution of Soviet anti-aircraft bases in Poland and East Germany, the methods used by the Soviets to avoid spy satellite detection of their military hardware, plans for the imposition of martial law in Poland, and many other matters.


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  Jul 24, 08, 06:05 /  #
Lukasz:
After the December 1970 massacre of Polish workers in Gdynia by communist forces


"communist forces"??? Russians??? Poles???
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  Jul 24, 08, 06:05 /  #
Bratwurst Boy:
Lukasz:
After the December 1970 massacre of Polish workers in Gdynia by communist forces
"communist forces"??? Russians??? Poles???


Sure enough Poles.
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  Jul 24, 08, 06:09 /  #
Bratwurst communism was imposed on Poland

I like one of famous Stalin quotations.

" Stalin said that imposing Communism on Roman Catholic Poland was as absurd as putting a saddle on a cow"

There were Polish commies ... the same as eastern German commies. Still this system wasn't our ... and without Russians we wouldn't have communism in Poland.
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy   Jul 24, 08, 06:10 /  #
Well, like in East Germany it wouldn't had worked for so long without enough of natives...

Stop selling them as martians from outer space!

Hey Luki! :)
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  Jul 24, 08, 06:12 /  #
Lukasz:
and without Russians we wouldn't have communism in Poland.


Lets procced the logic chain, thus you should blame Karl Marx or just Germans and Jews!
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  Jul 24, 08, 06:19 /  #
Bratwurst Boy:
Hey Luki! :)*waves*


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http://www.polishforums.com/zygmunt_szendzielarz_polish-34_21396_0.htm l

It is how Russians introduced this system.

Bratwurst Boy:
Stop selling them as martians from outer space!


I agree with this point. There is communist party in France and Italy ... there were commie terrorists in western Germany ... still it is miniority.
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  Jul 24, 08, 06:30 /  #
Lukasz:
still it is miniority


THANKFULLY!

Prost! :)
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  Jul 24, 08, 16:09 /  #
Lukasz:
Stalin said that imposing Communism on Roman Catholic Poland was as absurd as putting a saddle on a cow"


Stalin tried like heck, I didn't know he had cows? ;)
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  Jul 24, 08, 16:44 /  #
Bratwurst Boy:
Well, like in East Germany it wouldn't had worked for so long without enough of natives...


But without enough natives there would be enough non-natives...
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  Jul 24, 08, 16:51 /  #
Łukasz back, welcome.

Is this guy really thought of as a hero in most circles?
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Edited by: Lukasz   Jul 24, 08, 17:31 /  #
celinski:
Stalin tried like heck, I didn't know he had cows? ;)


Poland was his cow ;)


Seanus:
Is this guy really thought of as a hero in most circles?


IMO yes. Majority of Poles wanted Soviet defeat. In nuclear conflict there was no difference between American or Soviet nuclear bombs. There would be no Poland.

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