Third World War and the role of Poland

Quoting: Learner

just a couple of days ago, Bush spoke about the possibility of starting a Third world War with Russia, Iran and China in one side, and Israel, USA and UK in the other (ofcourse, with more allies of each of them, which we will wait and see).

If such an event takes place, what will be the role of poland? ... how will you cope with that situation....as obviously the main players will be USA - RUSSIA and CHINA.

Learner	Oct 21, 07, 03:52 / #
just a couple of days ago, Bush spoke about the possibility of starting a Third world War with Russia, Iran and China in one side, and Israel, USA and UK in the other (of course, with more allies of each of them, which we will wait and see). If such an event takes place, what will be the role of poland? ... how will you cope with that situation....as obviously the main players will be USA - RUSSIA and CHINA.

Learner	Oct 21, 07, 03:53 / #
and the recent ways of putin, kremlin ... and east european attitude....probably dont make Russia happy at all... so might we see a showdown?

KowalskiThreads: 12 Posts: 619 Joined: Sep 13, 06	Oct 21, 07, 05:48 / #
Quoting: Learner starting a Third world War with Russia, Iran and China in one side, and Israel, USA and UK in the othe We are no different and many of us would love to kill, harm and fight risking own lives. In case of war you are mentioning I think Poles would have no problem contributing and coping. We would love to kick Russian's ass for sure and I foresee no problem with motivating against China or Iran (here claim that they are Muslims would be easy to sell). As for our partners in planned bloodshed (?) we'd love to fight arm in arm with USA and UK. Israel ? - well, we work it out in hope they would stop hating Poland. I'm sure Bush didn't say it all, did he?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 21, 07, 05:55 / #
Better attack Gerries.

KowalskiThreads: 12 Posts: 619 Joined: Sep 13, 06	Oct 21, 07, 06:04 / #
If Poland was military attacked by Germany and Russia who would Poles fight first?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 21, 07, 06:13 / #
I would make a deal with Russians and attack Gerries.

KowalskiThreads: 12 Posts: 619 Joined: Sep 13, 06	Oct 21, 07, 07:04 / #
Germany first of course. First duty then pleasure!

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Oct 21, 07, 07:21 / #
Your write about the major players, however the British have the best special forces in the world. We will have blown up important parts of their war machines before they even knew what hit them. :) I'm sure the Polish would be on the side of the "Allies" rather than that of the Rusky's. Although it would be strange to see you fighting alongside German soldiers!!! maybe a bit of mutiny in the camp??? :)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 21, 07, 07:28 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 Although it would be strange to see you fighting alongside German soldiers!!! we were fighting together with Germans against Turkey and we had union with saksonia ( land in Germany) so there were some episodes in our history ...

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Oct 21, 07, 07:32 / #
Quoting: Lukasz we were fighting together with Germans against Turkey and we had union with saksonia ( land in Germany) so there were some episodes in our history ... ow ok i wasn't sure, i'm not 100% on my Polish history, lol. Still it would be a sight for sore eyes :) I remember when i was younger staying at an army camp where my dad was based, I was talking with Polish pilots who were being trained by the British alongside some Germans. However i asked the Polish why they were not sitting with the Germans, and he said 'we just don't like them' Little did i know why at my ripe old age of 10. To think about it now actually its pretty shocking that so called allies still hate each other enough they can't sit over a meal in the mess hall!!!

oh_damn	Oct 21, 07, 07:33 / #
To be honest, Poland should flip the bird to both sides... and fight with who ever disturbes us... USA and UK sold us out to communist Russians after WW2.. Israel, they dont like Poland, and Poland dont like Israel. Russia... do I really need to write anything haha ? But of course this is not realistic =) :P Poland would join the "allies"... and her roll would prolly be to mess with Russia...

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 21, 07, 10:42 / #
Quoting: Lukasz ??? do you belive in what you say ... there is no option we would stay neutral ... First of all, i don't believe that that kind of conflict would happen... but if... I think that Poland should wait for EU's and NATO's decision on what to do and definately try to stay neutral as much as it is possible. Taking under consideration the distance between Russia and Poland it wouldn't be wise to declare war on them. UK is on an island and USA is on the other sde of the pond, both far far away from Poland. Let them major players, as tornado called them, bleed themselves dry.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 21, 07, 11:23 / #
if that kind of war would happen we are naturaly on side of UK or US ... I know our history and relationship are complicated (we have to change a lot in this case) but all in all we share the same values. Russia is our natural enemy Russia isnt democratic, Russia is weak but it is noticable that when prices of oil increase they are more and more brutal and ignorant ... so it is our business to support all their (Russians) enemies... That is why we support Ukraina that is why we support Gerogia (country near Russia) ... What is more we succesfuly torpeded EU project (mostly German) of EUR-ASIA, and in smoe cases we shouldnt wait on opinions of "big players" but just try to influece on EU policy because we are part of it ...

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 21, 07, 12:15 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz If such an event takes place, what will be the role of poland? the role of Poland will be one big-ass target because now the world thinks for sure that we are gutless lovers of whatever garbage the USA shoves down our throats. Secret CIA jails? No problem! Send troops to invade Iraq? No problem! Send troops to Afghanistan (even though every other country on earth filed to pacify it)? Yes please! Pointless anti-missile rockets? Why the hell not, we agreed to literally everything else!!

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Oct 21, 07, 07:35 / #
Quoting: oh_damn USA and UK sold us out to communist Russians after WW2.. the US sold you out!!!! Quoting: oh_damn Israel, they dont like Poland, and Poland dont like Israel. why?? Quoting: oh_damn Russia... do I really need to write anything haha ? no i think there is plenty to document your point here :) Quoting: oh_damn But of course this is not realistic =) :P Poland would join the "allies"... and her roll would prolly be to mess with Russia... what could the polish bring to the party???

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 21, 07, 08:28 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 ow ok i wasn't sure, i'm not 100% on my Polish history ;) I just wanted to say there were some episodes ... but mostly we were deadly enemies. Quoting: tornado2007 why?? maybe it isnt noticable in media, but Poles rather prefere Paletinians, when you look into books you will know why ... ;) but Israel isnt important issue in Poland. Quoting: tornado2007 what could the polish bring to the party??? honestly we would be first to join that kind of war ... just because ;)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 21, 07, 08:32 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 the British have the best special forces in the world yes your special units are famous the same as US but our GROM (you can find some info) is very good as well and it is conisdered as one of the top special units all over the world ... and as well as I know we cooperate in traings of our special units

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 21, 07, 08:50 / #
what can be interesting when we look on German KSK and Polish GROM , Germans are considered as pussies ;) and it is experts opinion ... maybe because we send our GROM where it is posible and they are one of the most expirienced special units all over the world ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GROM

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 21, 07, 09:31 / #
Quoting: Learner just a couple of days ago, Bush spoke about the possibility of starting a Third world War with Russia, Iran and China in one side, and Israel, USA and UK in the other (ofcourse, with more allies of each of them, which we will wait and see). If such an event takes place, what will be the role of poland? ... how will you cope with that situation....as obviously the main players will be USA - RUSSIA and CHINA. Uk in war against Russia, eh? I wonder what would be the EU decission. Hmmm... Either way, considering the history of poland in the XXth century it would be wise for us to try as much as posible to stay neutral in this conflict. Chivalry is long time gone. Let them big guys settle it on their own.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 21, 07, 10:23 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz it would be wise for us to try as much as posible to stay neutral in this conflict. ??? do you belive in what you say ... there is no option we would stay neutral ...

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 21, 07, 12:16 / #
We will sink to depths of hell along with Uncle Slam and its increasingly useless dollar...

oh_damn	Oct 21, 07, 14:44 / #
Quoting: tornado2007 the US sold you out!!!! The UK too... go to google, choose google pictures, write "churchill stalin", you'll se plenty of pics of them together... Quoting: tornado2007 why?? Just as Lukasz said, check the books...its a long story.. Quoting: tornado2007 no i think there is plenty to document your point here :) for sure :D Quoting: tornado2007 what could the polish bring to the party??? Well what do you think=) Poland has an army... so the contribution would be from the simplest on-foot-solider to high tech military aircrafts and spec OPs teams.. Also I think Poland would be a bridge for the rest of the allies to attack Russia..

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 21, 07, 14:46 / #
or a buffer zone protecting europe from the hordes

Giles	Oct 21, 07, 15:02 / #
or..kebap and pizza stopover enroute to Dover....

Giles	Oct 21, 07, 15:04 / #
INVADING ARMY? Need a Tan? We have a selection of solariums although the old Danzig corridor for the Invaders needs. New cold war, get a tan. This is a Promotion of the Pomorskie Tourist development department. Third World War.....yeah apparently the New World Order are actually Aliens.....crazy

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 21, 07, 15:07 / #
Quoting: Giles New World Order are actually Aliens yeah... shape changing at that... spook

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 21, 07, 15:12 / #
I thought the Third World War would somehow involve Tescos.

Giles	Oct 21, 07, 15:19 / #
I'm going to fight for the Noble Waitrose. Guardian of the Brand. Slayer of Asda. Overcomer of Lidl

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 21, 07, 15:22 / #
I'd like to see Marks & Spencer's special forces. These are no ordinary special forces - hand-picked...

Giles	Oct 21, 07, 15:29 / #
Mark's and Spark's Tanktop division