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First UK ID Card Design Launched


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Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has unveiled the design for the controversial new identity card.


Foreign nationals will be issued the cards, which critics have described as unnecessary, costly and anti-liberty, from November.

People working in airports and other high security jobs will receive them from next year.

news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/UK-ID-Card-Design-Launch-Hom e-Secretary-Jacqui-Smith-To-Unveil-Controversial-Foreign-National-Card /Article/200809415106697?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_1 5106697_UK_ID_Card_Design_Launch%3A_Home_Secretary_Jacqui_Smith_To_Unv eil_Controversial_Foreign_National_Card
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good news but a little late .
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Arise_St_George:

Shami Chakrabarti


funny how it's always a foreigner compaining about these things!

Arise_St_George:

"Picking on foreigners first is divisive politics; as costly to our race relations as our purses."


If they don't like it then they don't have to come to the UK!

espana:

good news but a little late .


Yes and No, at least it's something...Spain should think about it, they seem to be having a bit of a problem too.
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espana:

good news but a little late .


It's never too late.
ShelleySThreads: 18
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This is an extract from this site ID Cards, it makes quite a few valid points.

Benefit? Little effect on Immigration. Refugees often have no ID at all, sometimes deliberately. Foreigners will not have cards. Illegal immigrants go out of their way to remain inconspicuous. Gang-masters are unlikely to inspect cards before employing people at below-minimum wages. Where do you get reliable information to register people of doubtful origin? Because stop-and-search by ethnic minority tends to cause riots then it is unlikely to be used in areas where it might be most effective.[6]

One of the main problems we have in this country is foreigners (settled in teh UK probably in possession of British passport) employing illegals.
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Can I provide toeprints instead ?
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ShelleyS:

Spain should think about it, they seem to be having a bit of a problem too.


i have the mine long time ago , years and years ago :)
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Arise_St_George:

It's never too late.

yes it is
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The sooner the better ! If your a law abiding citizen there's no problem , should have implemented years ago along with taking a dna sample at birth .
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espana:

i have the mine long time ago , years and years ago :)
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You're doing something wrong then. You're not issuing these ID cards to us British that choose to go to Spain. Someone in your country isn't doing their job properly. Maybe... just maybe the Spanish authorities realise that the British migrants are CREATING jobs for Spanish nationals.
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Arise_St_George:

You're not issuing these ID cards to us British that choose to go to Spain

if you are spanish you have the the DNI (id) and if you are not spanish you get the NIE (id), the two are similar.
Arise_St_George:

Someone in your country isn't doing their job properly.

we have all this information in the police station thank to this id cards , fingerprint etc,

Arise_St_George:

just maybe the Spanish authorities realise that the British migrants are CREATING jobs for Spanish nationals.

explain that staff please
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Bartolome:

Can I provide toeprints instead ?


You don't need to provide anything Mr B :)

Arise_St_George:

... just maybe the Spanish authorities realise that the British migrants are CREATING jobs for Spanish nationals


What a load of Rubbish, the British provide jobs for the British - simple - my friend gets her insurance for her apartment from an English run insurance company in Spain, I go to an English hairdresser who owns her own salon when I go to Spain, when I go shopping I buy food in a Spanish super market and the staff are Spanish, When I go to the Bank in Spain the staff are Spanish when I go for a drink on the complex I drink in bars that are Spanish owned and have Spanish working there and I go in bars that are owned by British and have English staff..oh and the English builders are working on sites that are owned by foreign investors, not Spanish...ARSE, think before you speak - the English look after their own in Spain, they don't go out there to provide jobs for the Spanish, quite the oposite. They do pay tax and contribute though.

espana:

explain that staff please


He's talking poo, ignore him.
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ShelleyS:

You don't need to provide anything Mr B :)

Of course me lass, I be a law abidin' pirate, aye :)
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ShelleyS:

funny how it's always a foreigner compaining about these things!



Shami Chakrabarti was born in London.

Or are you going to say that there is no way someone like Shami Chakrabarti (a 2nd generation British Asian) can really be British ?
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I don't mind having an ID, however...

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) is investigating the theft of computer files with the records of thousands of serving and former RAF staff on.

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Bartolome:

I don't mind having an ID, however...

That's what worries me...Data storage is contracted out to private contractors. Civil Service rules state that 3 quotes must be obtained and the contract goes to the cheapest tender. They in turn sub contract, to god knows who.......
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Daisy:

That's what worries me...Data storage is contracted out to private contractors. Civil Service rules state that 3 quotes must be obtained and the contract goes to the cheapest tender. They in turn sub contract, to god knows who.......



Exactly.

Also, if terrorists and others that are up to no good want to get round the system, they'll always find a way.
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