gay guys in London seek surrogacy female

Quoting: TBurk, Post #2

Please go see a mental hygenicist to cure yourself of homosexuality. No society completely made of homosexuals can sustain itself. It will eventually become extinct. You clearly realize this by having to go outside your unnatural male-male union.

Mother Nature has given you every incentive to reproduce the natural way... through physical urges and being attracted to the opposite sex. The right thing to do is to bring those natural urges to the surface and bed-down with a woman the normal way. You will enjoy it, and you will genuinely be the father, and you will have a child to enjoy for many years... until the teenage years at least. At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL

Lee1970	Jan 14, 07, 13:09 / #
My partner and I already have a child with a female couple and they are the main care givers. We have a lot of contact with our son but would like a child of our own. I have been looking at surrogacy in the USA but have decided that I only want to do this in the UK. We aware that this is an expensive option. Can anyone provide any advice on how to find a surrogate in the UK? leegrant@londoncbt.co.uk

TBurk	Jan 25, 07, 22:13 / #
Please go see a mental hygenicist to cure yourself of homosexuality. No society completely made of homosexuals can sustain itself. It will eventually become extinct. You clearly realize this by having to go outside your unnatural male-male union. Mother Nature has given you every incentive to reproduce the natural way... through physical urges and being attracted to the opposite sex. The right thing to do is to bring those natural urges to the surface and bed-down with a woman the normal way. You will enjoy it, and you will genuinely be the father, and you will have a child to enjoy for many years... until the teenage years at least. At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL

telefonitika	Jan 26, 07, 05:34 / #
Quoting: TBurk, Post #2 Please go see a mental hygenicist to cure yourself of homosexuality. No society completely made of homosexuals can sustain itself. It will eventually become extinct. You clearly realize this by having to go outside your unnatural male-male union. HOMOPhob alert here!!! Think you need to step into the 21st century reality TBurk (interesting name by the way BURK) Quoting: TBurk, Post #2 Mother Nature has given you every incentive to reproduce the natural way... through physical urges and being attracted to the opposite sex. The right thing to do is to bring those natural urges to the surface and bed-down with a woman the normal way. You will enjoy it, and you will genuinely be the father, and you will have a child to enjoy for many years... until the teenage years at least. At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL He or She or IT even finds the time to LOL !!!

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Jan 26, 07, 06:48 / #
I don't think that gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. Does that make me a homophobe too? Damn, I promise myself not to get provoked to engage in that kind of discussion.

DecoratorThreads: 5 Posts: 412 Joined: Aug 26, 06	Jan 26, 07, 06:58 / #
I don't think that makes you homophobic Matyjasz, it's just your opinion. I'm not sure about it either and i'm certainly not. It is a huge debate in the UK at the moment.

DecoratorThreads: 5 Posts: 412 Joined: Aug 26, 06	Jan 26, 07, 07:00 / #
Quoting: Decorator, Post #5 I'm not sure about it either and i'm certainly not By that i meant Homophobic not gay!! oh dear was that homophobic? i'll stop now i think...

telefonitika	Jan 26, 07, 10:35 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #4 I don't think that gay couples should be allowed to adopt children It doesnt make you a homophob Maty but is it gay males that cant have children adopted or otherwise or the female gay (lesbians) that cant or both?? Yes it is a debate at the minute here in the uk "catholic church vs state" age old debate the church and mp's wont allow it to happen.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jan 26, 07, 10:48 / #
In my opinion...you're gay....you aren't compatable with the opposite sex..why would you possibly want a child..that's what men and women do together. Maybe adopt an older child from africa...it's trendy And I have no issues with that lifestyle, but I think raising a child in that environment wouldn't be right. Not to say that gay parent aren't fit to be parents, but a mommy and daddy are important to have.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jan 26, 07, 11:08 / #
Gay looking for a woman, now that's a pervert !

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Jan 26, 07, 11:09 / #
Quoting: TBurk, Post #2 Please go see a mental hygenicist to cure yourself of homosexuality. No society completely made of homosexuals can sustain itself. It will eventually become extinct. You clearly realize this by having to go outside your unnatural male-male union. Mother Nature has given you every incentive to reproduce the natural way... through physical urges and being attracted to the opposite sex. The right thing to do is to bring those natural urges to the surface and bed-down with a woman the normal way. You will enjoy it, and you will genuinely be the father, and you will have a child to enjoy for many years... until the teenage years at least. At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL True.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Jan 26, 07, 13:11 / #
Quoting: TBurk, Post #2 At which point they don't want to be seen in public with you. LOL I like that!!! I agree with Fisz. Gays shouldn't have kids. It would probably be "normal" to have sex with a child because of their perverted view on sex. Gays can be nice people, but their view is way off and they are not mentally healthy to raise a child. What if they had a girl? Would they be taking her to men's bathrooms? Children need both a mother and a father.

TBurk	Jan 26, 07, 18:48 / #
I agree with Krysia, because someone involved in one form of degeneracy is far more likely to involve themselves in yet another. BTW, sodomy is still a crime in many parts of the United States.

TBurk	Jan 26, 07, 18:50 / #
Spoken like a true Scissor Sister... that is a Lesbijka!

HuegelThreads: 1 Posts: 333 Joined: Jul 26, 06	Jan 26, 07, 20:32 / #
Ah, the wonderful world of selective discrimination from Krysia and co. Good job guys. If this had been uk_ spouting his usual trash about, oh lets say: Poles shouldn't have kids as they make bad parents, you'd have been all over him like a rash. But "uh oh" a gay guy asks a question about having a kid and suddenly, quicker than you can say turker baster, they'll be having sex with them and taking them into male toilets. Quoting: krysia, Post #11 Children need both a mother and a father so I guess all the single parents out there are also doing a sht job? They'll be abusing their kids too? No? Didn't think so and guess what, I bet they wouldn't either! Talk about bigotry. I think that if anyone* can provide a stable enviroment for a child then good luck to them, as hell fire, there are enough bad "normal," hetrosexual mothers and fathers out there.

TBurk	Jan 26, 07, 18:51 / #
Quoting: TBurk, Post #13 Spoken like a true Scissor Sister... that is a Lesbijka! I meant this for telefonitika, what a strange name indeed!

TBurk	Jan 26, 07, 18:54 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #9 Gay looking for a woman, now that's a pervert

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,972 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Jan 26, 07, 22:21 / #
Quoting: Huegel, Post #16 think that if anyone can provide a stable enviroment for a child then good luck to them, as hell fire, there are enough bad "normal," hetrosexual mothers and fathers out there. I agree with you , and with them, my only beef with this post of wanting to have a child is, there is proper ways to do it and not jump on a forum which is clearly about Polish things. so how did they get to this site looking for a serrogate mother? they didnt ask for a polish serrogate mother, they posted they are living in london and looking for one. I would think that there are places /clinics what not that have people who provide this. and in a more appropiate manner with screening and counseling as well. I have my own formed opinions which I would rather keep to myself but I do lean more towards the mother/father traditional way of raising children because I think this will confuse the child and there will be questions asked. how do things like that get approached ? what effects does it have on other children who want to be friends and the parents are against it? will the child feel isolated? discriminated against growing up with gay parents? lots of things to think about that need attention so that futures arent set up for disaster and or feeling of lonlyness and if the schools will have problems with children becoming violent over this. just alot of thought/thinking out to do before really taking the next step and alot to do with community as well. Probably would look into things a bit further before taking on such huge responsibility, physically and financially you might be prepared, but mentally and emotionally you might not. ok enough from Dr Patrycja. <~not.. lol just my opinion.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jan 27, 07, 06:06 / #
Quoting: Huegel, Post #16 Good job guys. Thanks.

miranda	Jan 27, 07, 07:38 / #
Quoting: Huegel, Post #16 selective discrimination well said, nothing to add on my side

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Jan 27, 07, 08:53 / #
Nothing against gays. I have a gay friend. Let the gays have children, they can raise more gays. I don't care. Whatever. Just love the kid and don't give it aids.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jan 27, 07, 09:38 / #
I have two gay friends who foster they have made a big difference to lives of children they have fostered....the points that have been made here a stupid, gay men are not going make children gay....pff It really makes me wonder what people are actually thinking about sometimes...These two guys have been in a relationship for over 10 years and have a lot to give.

miranda	Jan 27, 07, 09:43 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #21 I have two gay friends who foster they have made a big difference to lives of children they have fostered....the points that have been made here a stupid, gay men are not going make children gay....pff It really makes me wonder what people are actually thinking about sometimes...These two guys have been in a relationship for over 10 years and have a lot to give. great story I find that those little stories illustrate life much better that all those stereotypes we try to hold on too, since we need to hold onto something. Life is not simple

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jan 27, 07, 10:15 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #21 gay men are not going make children gay How do you know that ?

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Jan 27, 07, 11:13 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #21 have two gay friends who foster they have made a big difference to lives of children they have fostered....the points that have been made here a stupid, gay men are not going make children gay....pff I happen to know a lesbian couple that have a daughter who is 12 and is very confused about what's right or wrong. Even after being told that there is no right or wrong, she still looks at her mom's and thinks that this how her life should be. So, I think it can have a negative effect.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,967 Joined: Nov 10, 06	Jan 27, 07, 11:19 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_, Post #23 How do you know that ? Gays are not made, they are, its genetic Mr F, if she is not attracted to women then she's not going to be lesbian, I think people are born the way they are. I do think that people should be more torlerent. In an ideal world there would be two parents, a mother and a father, but we dont live in a perfect ideal world.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Jan 27, 07, 11:23 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #25 Mr F, if she is not attracted to women then she's not going to be lesbian, I think people are born the way they are Very true! But she'll have to figure it out on her own, which can take some time. So, it can be a frustrating confusing time for her. Quoting: Amathyst, Post #25 but we dont live in a perfect ideal world. Can say that again.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jan 27, 07, 11:41 / #
Quoting: Amathyst, Post #25 Gays are not made, they are, its genetic Says who ? Gay news ? Don't tell me that watching for years "2 daddies"... kissing each other and doing other disgusting sh*t won't affect a child.

Jasiu	Jan 27, 07, 11:48 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #4 Does that make me a homophobe too? no... but it might well make you a member of the catholic church...

Jasiu	Jan 27, 07, 11:58 / #
this is fantastic... i go away for a day or two and the forum turns from a breeding ground for racist fanatics to a place where we can all happily spout our homophobic views... wonderful... this is a tolerant forum which accepts all forms of bigotry... just as long as we dont express any concerns about american foreign policy... in which case censorship will be applied and dubya's boys will be round for a visit...

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jan 27, 07, 12:02 / #
Quoting: Jasiu, Post #29 wonderful... this is a tolerant forum which accepts all forms of bigotry... just as long as we dont express any concerns about american foreign policy... in which case censorship will be applied and dubya's boys will be round for a visit...