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Magda Pniewska's "Last Breath" Heard Over Mobile



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The sister of a nursing care assistant has told a court how she heard her being shot in the head as they spoke on a mobile phone.

Magda Pniewska, 26, died in crossfire between two gunmen in New Cross, south London, in October 2007.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7398421.stm

Stories like this are dreadful regardless of the nationality of the victim, but when it involves someone where the victim isn't a British national, I can't help wonder what their family, friends, fellow countrymen must make of this country as a result.

Moreover, what do they make of the justice system and the derisory punishments that often get handed out ?

You just know that when the lowlife that did this gets sentenced, it just isn't going to reflect the severity of the crime.
erialc43Threads: 3
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In cases like this, I am all for the death penalty coming back.
I am not sure about hanging but I feel that lethal injection's are acceptable.
Why should these lawless people live when decent citizens are murdered?
And yes, if it was called for it's a job I could do, press the button and release the poison.
We have to get back to a life for a life, in cases where there is no doubt.
plk123Threads: 30
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damn, that hs got to suck majorily. if the guy was cought with a gun how can he deny that charge? makes no sense. hmm.. send him to TX, they'll take real good care of that a-hole.

lethal injection is not humane, im all for hangings or fireing squads though. fvck them; let them face similar feelings as their victims had to.
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A terrible tragedy, all the more upsetting, even traumatising for her sister, having to hear the last moments of life. May she rest in peace.

May also, whoever is guilty receive due punishment. It is a shame we have to discuss this at the same time as speaking of the victim of this horrific crime - how should the prepetrator be punished? There is so much more to the life of the victim. She wasn't a victim until she was senselessly murdered. She had a life, a job, family and friends. To be reduced to the status of victim just belittles how devastating the loss of an innocent life is.

But we are also discussing the penalty.

I do not believe in the death sentence.
Hanging, was the method used in the UK back in the bad old days. It used to, I believe, be the preferred method in the US until they deemed it inhumane or something. Different ways of tying the noose have different results. It can be very quick or very slow.

But, tell the family of someone who's been executed that it was a mistake and that they weren't guilty - it was someone else who still roams free.
Should death row be long and drawn out, and therefore very expensive? Or should it be short and with little time for all those expensive legal procedings involving appeals, retrials and so on?

But before anyone says 'he was caught red-handed', what about those who are not? Those for whom the evidence convinces a jury beyond all reasonable doubt, but then turns out not to have revealed the truth? Do we change the legal system to have different kinds of guilty?

He seems guilty enough, but better not despatch him just in case.
Beyond all reasonable doubt.
He definately did it, I saw it with my own eyes and it really really was him.
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"A teenager has been found guilty of killing a care assistant who was caught in crossfire during a shoot-out.

Magda Pniewska, 26, was shot in the head in New Cross, south London, in October last year."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7414226.stm
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"A man has been jailed for at least 20 years for the murder of a woman caught in a "Wild West" style shoot-out.

Magda Pniewska, 26, was shot in the head in New Cross, south London, in October last year."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7468903.stm

He probably won't even be 40 years old by the time he is out. How is this justice ?
noimmigration   Jun 23, 08, 07:59 /  #
I am glad we have a tiny minority of blacks in scotland. at least we dont have negores shooting at everyone.
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It isn't. But with a bit of luck he might drop the soap in the showers
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Mister H:
"Wild West" style shoot-out.


He wasn,t even aiming at anyone...just firing in the air to scare somebody...and he killed an innocent person.....Thankfully its not like this in Poland....I am sorry this lady lost her life for no reason other than somebody wanted to be a big man with a gun...
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wildrover:
a big man with a gun

I'd like to think that him being in prison for a long time would knock the chip off his shoulder, but it probably won't...
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sausage:
knock the chip off his shoulder


More likely it will make him a hero among the muppets he hangs out with....
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A disgusting event.

I feel so sorry for her, and her family.

When she came to London, she probably had no idea about what scum inhabit it.

After Dunblane, only Criminals have guns now.
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