Statistics: How many Polish people in the UK?

osiol:

I just worked out that if the figure WB gave, of 1-3 million is anything to go on, we can take an average and say 2 million. In a total population of about 60 587 000, that makes about 3.3%. If we assume that this population is fairly evenly spread across the country, then an average town like St. Albans (population 82 100) should be home to approximately 2700 Polish people.

Why, when I went into a Polish delicatessen there yesterday (on a Saturday afternoon), were there no other customers?

emgroThreads: 1 Posts: 1 Joined: May 3, 08	May 3, 08, 12:28 / #
I'd like to start a new subject on this forum, because I think are an important thinks, that we should've spoken about. Does someone know where are some informations about Polish emigrants eg. the amount of the Polish people in the UK ???

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	May 3, 08, 12:30 / #
not as many as there used to be apparently

Wroclaw Boy	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy May 3, 08, 13:09 / #
Its around the 1 - 3 million mark On a seriuous note there are 800,000 registered workers, so probably double that for unregistered. So who nows

telefonitika	May 3, 08, 14:06 / #
emgro: How many Polish people in the UK? well in short .... no one actually can give an accurate figure

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	May 4, 08, 03:30 / #
British rag papers claim that all Poles (except the North and the South) are in London. So it would be some 39 M from Poland alone, plus over 10 M of Polish diaspora, that makes the total figure of about 50 M Poles in The City alone.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	May 4, 08, 05:49 / #
With that many around, it shouldn't be too difficult to find one. But the one who owes me money seems to have made himself scarce.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 4, 08, 06:13 / #
The whole "millions of Poles in the UK" is a total BS, sensational crap spread by trash media. The number of people, who actually live them right now is no way bigger than 500-600 thousand.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	May 4, 08, 06:30 / #
I just worked out that if the figure WB gave, of 1-3 million is anything to go on, we can take an average and say 2 million. In a total population of about 60 587 000, that makes about 3.3%. If we assume that this population is fairly evenly spread across the country, then an average town like St. Albans (population 82 100) should be home to approximately 2700 Polish people. Why, when I went into a Polish delicatessen there yesterday (on a Saturday afternoon), were there no other customers? Just a rather bored looking lady sitting behind the counter, looking suspiciously at the donkey that had mysteriously trotted in off the street.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern May 4, 08, 06:42 / #
osiol: I just worked out that if the figure WB gave, of 1-3 million is anything to go on, we can take an average and say 2 million. In a total population of about 60 587 000, that makes about 3.3%. If we assume that this population is fairly evenly spread across the country, then an average town like St. Albans (population 82 100) should be home to approximately 2700 Polish people. Why, when I went into a Polish delicatessen there yesterday (on a Saturday afternoon), were there no other customers? Absurd.The population distribution is not similar everywhere. guess that there are areas with exremely high proportion of Poles and areas with no Poles at all. My guess:You will never know the exact number of immigrants and absolutely never their distribution.It is not sth of interest for you,it is important for other persons who have interest in these numbers. How would I estimate the number roughly.How much was the unemployment in Poland before 2004?21%.How much is it now?11%.This means that almost 10% of the working population has migrated.I suppose that 90% at least have migrated to UK.You get the number of all population of working age in Poland,divide by 9 and multiply by 90%.So you get roughly the number of polish immigrants in UK.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Grzegorz_ May 4, 08, 06:43 / #
osiol: we can take an average and say 2 million If one look at the changes within last few years in unemployment rate, the number of jobs, people who joined/left the labor market etc. there's no way that the number of people, who left Poland and haven't came back yet is bigger than one million and obviously not all of them went to the UK. The huge numbers appear because to make It look more sensational trash media ignore a fact that these people don't stay there forever and at least half of people, who went there in 2004 are gone long time ago, they also count the way - there's X of them, let's add their children..., when in fact hardly any Poles bring children to the UK, once I even saw to the number of "Polish immigrants" added British citizens with one Polish grandparent, which obviously is a total nonsense.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 4, 08, 07:18 / #
southern: The difference about 1.6 million people is the number of polish immigrants. There were 600 thousand additional jobs created in 2004-2006 alone... Sorry Southern, but I find your doubts in my estimations insulting and demand apolgies... And why the hell would I lie about these things ??

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern May 4, 08, 08:10 / #
Grzegorz_: There were 600 thousand additional jobs created in 2004-2006 alone If you can prove this and subtract the number of jobs lost in the same period you will build a strong case. In my opinion a lot of Poles everywhere is a good thing.Polish work adds substantial value to economic development everywhere it exists.

noimmigration	May 4, 08, 11:27 / #
southern: Polish work adds substantial value to economic development everywhere it exists. Not according to research by by the house of lords commision or the british institute of statistic.

marek_Threads: 4 Posts: 25 Joined: May 4, 08	May 4, 08, 11:53 / #
Thread attached on merging: POLISH IN THE UK 3 million of us in the uk now. :-) its like mini poland here

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern May 4, 08, 06:58 / #
2003:3.3 million people in Poland registered as unemployed. 2008:1.7 million people registered as unemployed. The difference about 1.6 million people is the number of polish immigrants.(maybe 90% of them to UK).You can also find the rate of immigration by comparing unemployment data between 2004-2008.I am sure EU officials and businessmen spend a lot of time studying these data. For example URL You got R1a in England.This is good news.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 4, 08, 11:44 / #
noimmigration: house of lords lol...

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 4, 08, 11:59 / #
Cool...

RubasznyRumcajsThreads: 9 Posts: 283 Joined: Mar 29, 08	May 4, 08, 12:01 / #
yeah... maybe 5 milion... but seriously: i doubt that it would be more than 800 000 poles in UK simultaneously

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 4, 08, 12:05 / #
Aha, so half have returned to Poland and u r telling me that 3 million are still there. So, there were 6 million? Less than 20% registered according to that figure, what does that tell u?

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07	May 4, 08, 13:04 / #
I heard that it might be up to a million but half have already returned home to Poland. I think that three million is an exaggeration.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Edited by: Matyjasz May 4, 08, 14:49 / #
southern: 2003:3.3 million people in Poland registered as unemployed. 2008:1.7 million people registered as unemployed. Southern, you fail to notice that being registered as unemployed and being unemployed isn't actually the same thing. A lot of people, prior to Poland’s accession to EU, claimed to be unemployed and at the same time worked illegally. That way the employer didn’t have to pay for their healthcare, etc and the employee was given more cash in his hand. And since he was registered as unemployed he was entitled to free healthcare, etc...

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	May 4, 08, 14:53 / #
southern: If you can prove this and subtract the number of jobs lost in the same period you will build a strong case. That was already included. Go to the GUS site and find It yourself.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,948 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern May 4, 08, 17:28 / #
Matyjasz: you fail to notice that being registered as unemployed and being unemployed isn't actually the same thing. A lot of people, prior to Poland’s accession to EU, claimed to be unemployed and at the same time worked illegally Grzegorz_: That was already included. Go to the GUS site and find It yourself. You are telling me that number of polish immigrants is less than 800000?(1.6 million minus 600000 minus hundreds of thousands registered before but not registered after 2004).O.K,I accept it.