Health care, USA is messed up what about your country?

porta wrote:

In Norway the healthcare is free, but it suffers from not having enough funds. One would believe that in one of the Worlds richest countries we would have a good healtcare system ,but we dont. People die while waiting for operations here ,because the goverment wont spend the money needed.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 20, 07, 10:40 / #
What does your country do for you for health care? I know in the USA with insurance health care is still costly. With all our money paying for wars, it seems USA people are last on the list.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Dec 20, 07, 10:45 / #
Health insurance is costly but you need it. When I got into a really bad car accident the bill came up to $289.000. The insurance covered it all. Otherwise I would be in debt forever.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Dec 20, 07, 10:46 / #
Its free and private health care isnt expensive to purchase - in the UK But the infrastructure in the UK is under a lot of pressure because of the expanding population due to the changes with the EU...

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Dec 20, 07, 10:49 / #
All I know is that if I didn't have a job that pays most of the premium of my health care, then I would be screwed(: Unfortunately, there are many people who don't have jobs that pay for healthcare.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 20, 07, 10:57 / #
Ranj wrote: Unfortunately, there are many people who don't have jobs that pay for healthcare. How? I know elderly that cut pills in half to save money. That to me is sick, why should a person that worked their whole lives have to put their health on the line by not taking proper dosage? Carol

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Dec 20, 07, 11:05 / #
Polish health care sucks. It could be improved slowly if we would abolish Ministry of Health.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 20, 07, 11:06 / #
Healthcare for me is cheap. I only pay $10 per month and have a $500 deductable. What are the benefits of having free healthcare? Who pays for it? The Dr's must not be getting paid that well. I would think that the lines would be longer and the treatment less than par.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Dec 20, 07, 11:10 / #
Zgubiony wrote: What are the benefits of having free healthcare? no old folk cutting pills in half Zgubiony wrote: Who pays for it? everyone who earns a wage Zgubiony wrote: The Dr's must not be getting paid that well. uk doctors earn a fair whack Zgubiony wrote: I would think that the lines would be longer and the treatment less than par. possibly - but at least people are standing in line waiting for treatment without the worry of not being able to afford it

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 20, 07, 11:16 / #
BubbaWoo wrote: no old folk cutting pills in half B.....lol I've never heard of anyone doing this. it's BS My healthcare is cheap and good. It all depends on who you work for. Taking a job these days forces you first to check their benefits. Hey $10 per month isn't that bad.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:19 / #
Zgubiony wrote: Hey $10 per month isn't that bad. Is that the cost for your medical. We pay $179. per week in USA toward our insurance. Carol

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Dec 20, 07, 11:30 / #
BubbaWoo wrote: celinski wrote: I know elderly that cut pills in half to save money thats because their pensions suck.. not the health care. I dont know what neck of the woods you all live in, but my health care system cannot turn folks away regardless of lack of funds etc etc.. the bottom line is, the hospitals eat the cost.. if a patient comes in we treat them. I was pretty sure that was a national thing.. I would rather be here then try to barter with a doctor on if I need a kidney and or if I will pay him handsomely to save my life or die.. that to me is sick.

portaThreads: 24 Posts: 354 Joined: Jul 16, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:37 / #
lesser wrote: and there is no taxes :) Oh yes , between 30-40% tak of the income ,and then 23% tax on everything you buy. Gasoline and Diesel has 80% tax

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:38 / #
Health care in USA is far better than in Europe.If I analyze that,the EUphiles will want to eat me alive.

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Dec 20, 07, 15:46 / #
Zgubiony wrote: I'm also in the USA :) United Healthcare. Your employer provides some crappy insurance...sorry :/ My company has that! (United Healthcare) But it seems that we continue, each year, to get less coverage at a higer cost, no matter what provider or plan you use. :(

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Edited by: Zgubiony Dec 20, 07, 11:22 / #
I'm also in the USA :) United Healthcare. Your employer provides some crappy insurance...sorry :/

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Edited by: BubbaWoo Dec 20, 07, 11:22 / #
Zgubiony wrote: I've never heard of anyone doing this. it's BS celinski wrote: I know elderly that cut pills in half to save money celinski wrote: That to me is sick me too Zgubiony wrote: My healthcare is cheap and good. i really dont like the idea of somebody i love not being able to get the medical attention they need because they cant afford it. the uk health system might not offer the best available but they normally offer something

portaThreads: 24 Posts: 354 Joined: Jul 16, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:23 / #
In Norway the healthcare is free, but it suffers from not having enough funds. One would believe that in one of the Worlds richest countries we would have a good healtcare system ,but we dont. People die while waiting for operations here ,because the goverment wont spend the money needed.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Dec 20, 07, 11:34 / #
Zgubiony wrote: Healthcare for me is cheap. I only pay $10 per month and have a $500 deductable. It looks really good. porta wrote: In Norway the healthcare is free and there is no taxes :) porta wrote: but it suffers from not having enough funds. like every socialist utopia

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:36 / #
Zgubiony wrote: Your employer provides some crappy insurance...sorry :/ LOL We also have United, we have dental also and that amount is for a family policy. porta wrote: People die while waiting for operations here ,because the goverment wont spend the money needed. Now that is sad. I have some friends from Barbatos and they wait to go there because medical is free and they say if you know the area, you know the best doctors. Carol

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 20, 07, 11:47 / #
celinski wrote: LOL We also have United It's not as good as our plan then. My colleague pays $65 for family. I guess it depends on where you live. Dental I pay $5 :)

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 20, 07, 11:49 / #
porta wrote: 80% tax Wholly molly.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Dec 20, 07, 16:12 / #
Zgubiony wrote: What are the benefits of having free healthcare? Who pays for it? The Dr's must not be getting paid that well. I would think that the lines would be longer and the treatment less than par. boo!!! hehe.. Zgubiony wrote: Your employer provides some crappy insurance...sorry :/ no kidding. :( Patrycja19 wrote: I dont know what neck of the woods you all live in, but my health care system cannot turn folks away regardless of lack of funds etc etc.. may want to check again because a few years back i went to see my doc and just happen not to have my wallet with me.. no money for the visit copay and i got tossed out of her office and she dropped me as a patient. of course i wouldn't ever go back to see that wench but that's beside the point. Patrycja19 wrote: I was pretty sure that was a national thing.. I would rather be here then try to barter with a doctor on if I need a kidney and or if I will pay him handsomely to save my life or die.. that to me is sick. boo!!! jeez people.. look into some reality not the crap the elephants are selling you. rolleyes

QacerThreads: 44 Posts: 120 Joined: Jul 9, 07	Dec 20, 07, 16:40 / #
A totally free healthcare system is not good as well as a totally privatized system. In my opinion, the best system is a hybrid between the two. I believe the government should provide free coverage for preventative care, health screenings, some medicines, etc. Partial coverage should be offered for the other stuff. The rest should be covered by private insurance that is affordable to everyone. There should also be a subsidized form of extra insurance for the people who truly can't afford it. If preventative care is given to everyone, then many will be able to take actions against diseases or ailments that may haunt them in the future. Really, preventative care is just a re-enforcement of healthy living. If a person really gets sick, then government subsidized insurance and private insurance kicks in. There also needs to be changes in the laws that govern medical practice. Part of the reason why so many operations and medicines are expensive is due to costs associated with liabilities brought by malpractice suits. There should also be some form of tax credit given to R&D companies that bring about new medicine or technologies. These firms also suffer from copy-cat competition that offer an unbranded form of their products at a much lower price.

marek sThreads: - Posts: 451 Joined: Sep 9, 07	Dec 20, 07, 21:35 / #
Zgubiony wrote: 've never heard of anyone doing this. it's BS people do it

OscypekThreads: - Posts: 116 Joined: Jan 11, 07	Edited by: Oscypek Dec 21, 07, 13:27 / #
celinski wrote: I know elderly that cut pills in half to save money. That to me is sick How about this regarding US health care? -- Voters' questions increase as N.H. primaries near "I'm a health care voter," Sandra Burt, 65, declares before a roundtable with Illinois Sen. Obama starts at a Concord restaurant serendipitously called The Common Man. Laid off six months ago, she is struggling to pay for medicine that costs $2,900 a month for an auto-immune disorder. During the roundtable, tears stream down Burt's cheeks as she describes her family's efforts to cope. "My husband has sold his truck, and he's cashed in his life insurance," she says. She asks Obama how high her prescription co-payments would be under his plan. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-12-20-NHmood_N .htm

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 22, 07, 21:18 / #
Oscypek wrote: tears stream down Burt's cheeks as she describes her family's efforts to cope. USA has got to do something. I am in the "Insurance capital" and you wouldn't know it. What mess's up alot of people is Husky for people that can't afford insurance. Husky olny pays set amounts so the bills get off set onto the ones without insurance or the ones that don't have any. Carol

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	Edited by: Frank Dec 23, 07, 03:53 / #
porta wrote: In Norway the healthcare is free, but it suffers from not having enough funds. One would believe that in one of the Worlds richest countries we would have a good healtcare system ,but we dont. People die while waiting for operations here ,because the goverment wont spend the money needed. Which is a an absolute disgrace...as their country sits on a $388 BILLION investment fund due to their oil revenues ( which is second only to the UAE and 50% bigger than Saudi Arabias!!!)......for a country of 5 million people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MacduffThreads: 13 Posts: 86 Joined: Oct 30, 07	Dec 23, 07, 04:09 / #
The Uk is free but I felt the standards are slipping, that was untill I had the unfortunate experiance of 7 days in a Polish general hospital. (Nightmare)

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06	Dec 24, 07, 07:02 / #
Macduff wrote: The Uk is free but I felt the standards are slipping, that was untill I had the unfortunate experiance of 7 days in a Polish general hospital. (Nightmare) Macduff...spill the beanz please.....names, places, who did wot to whom, what was or wasn't done to you...... Come on...you know you want too!!

Kaczor DuckThreads: 3 Posts: 151 Joined: Jun 20, 07	Dec 24, 07, 08:01 / #
I dont have health coverage (self employeed) and is costly in America, but is the best in the world. Canada has universal coverage, but try to get in line to get a tooth pulled, a man had to finally come to US to get it pulled!! Yes it costs alot, but competition makes it the best, if no one wants to be the best and if this Govt thinks it can run it better,OM, it will be the worst ever!! People from all over the world come here. Its costly because of all those who get it abuse it and never pay their bills. We all pay for them, but it is best to treat people. We have law that says if you show up they have to treat you, unf. with all the illegals coming and getting it free many quality hospitals have closed their doors and shut down emergency rooms in areas that have many illegals who dont pay. Its a shame. I still wouldn't have ot any other way. My moms heart surgery cost 300K and her insurance paid all but 1500. So if you have coverage is great, I just pray I dont get sick before I retire and have medicade. But I dont worry about it. Car insurance pays for accidents, and homeowners in the house accident and builders risk covers bodily on the job, so I have a saftey blanket. Chow