Katyn - the Polish movie

Sadek wrote:

the best example of Polish lobby in USA ... Americans like it and nomminated it to OSCAR ... and przemas write "poor" ... ehhhh.

that is why we complain about American Poles not about Canadian or Polonia in UK or France ... they do their job propoperly :) not like American Poles

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Sep 24, 07, 02:30 / #
this looks like a film that everyone should take the time to see is it on general release or just in poland ?

clunkshiftThreads: 4 Posts: 94 Joined: Feb 6, 07	Sep 24, 07, 03:36 / #
Katyn premiered in Warsaw on 17th September, so general release in Poland will be soon. Like the majority of Polish films, general release in other countries is in the hands of film distributors and cinema owners. You have to hope is does well in the festivals over the coming year... official website (Polish only) is katyn.netino.pl This website shows all the Polish films you may have missed.... http://www.pisf.pl/index.php?tresc=0761d3b823ef5f0

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Sep 24, 07, 05:43 / #
intro in english (hi quality) so up loads longer katyn.netino.pl/zwiastuny/katyn_ang.wmv

LightbulbThreads: 1 Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 30, 07	Sep 25, 07, 00:06 / #
Looks like a powerful movie. Of course, seeing it on the big screen is probably impossible here in the U.S., but some of the better video stores might have it in six months or so. Thanks for mentioning it!

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Sep 26, 07, 05:49 / #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_Massacre before watching you should read it

Kasenka	Oct 4, 07, 10:49 / #
To Lukasz: Get to the dox on Wiki...the Russians are saying there is no way to verify them (and thus having to admit to their crime) saying those aren't originals yet photocopies.... was photocopying around back then? how could they be forgeries? has some little old man in a Polish village kept a 1940s typewriter, a modern photocopier and Stalin's own signature specifically for these forgeries? Maybe you all have forgiven, but it still angers me...among all the other crimes committed against our ppl and land.....

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 5, 07, 08:11 / #
just saw it, it's a good film - the ending takes your breath away

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 5, 07, 08:17 / #
Quoting: Kasenka Get to the dox on Wiki...the Russians are saying there is no way to verify them (and thus having to admit to their crime) saying those aren't originals yet photocopies.... They can say what ever they want, Katyn is proved.

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 5, 07, 10:32 / #
Quoting: Lukasz They can say what ever they want, Katyn is proved. they had the motive too, it makes sense...

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 5, 07, 12:50 / #
Jelcyn and Gorbaczow excussed for this mord, so I dont understand why russians are trying to false history again.

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Oct 5, 07, 14:14 / #
And it looks like he will re-elected..... sigh (not a putin fan myself)

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Edited by: Matyjasz Oct 5, 07, 14:47 / #
I've read few reviews of that movie and the opinions were rather negative.

Wyspianska	Oct 5, 07, 14:50 / #
Will see it this monday. Heard in Kuba Wojewodzki's show that its quite boring. I trust him cuz hes got similar artistic taste to mine but of course wanna check the movie on my own. Will write something here about my opinion later.

plgThreads: 25 Posts: 316 Joined: Jul 9, 06	Oct 5, 07, 16:35 / #
it's a very interesting film, very horrific ending. i am scottish and had never heard of this atrocity, but decided i wanted to watch the film whilst holidaying in gdansk i liked the part where the woman would not go with the german officer where she would be safe, as she had a husband. very sad film , especially if you were polish. it would make me have a lot of hatred for certain nationalities

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07	Oct 5, 07, 13:47 / #
Quoting: Lukasz I dont understand why russians are trying to false history again. because the guy that runs the country is an ex-spy, and that's what spies do - they lie, cheat, eavesdrop, and steal.

rejbelThreads: 1 Posts: 14 Joined: Oct 4, 07	Edited by: rejbel Oct 5, 07, 16:51 / #
i want to see that movie really badly. has anybody have an idea when we will be able to get it or see it in us?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Oct 10, 07, 17:14 / #
I have just watched it. It is grate movie. So my opinion : Fristly, Waida used clich which I really love ;) Secondly this movie shows Polish reallity in '39 - '46 I m really glad that Wajda hasnt made movie like M Gibsons "pasion" so we dont have to much blood what is really good. We have more sublimated fight in peoples minds ... ehhh :) I m really proud that my ansestors were on right side this time ... <div class="quoting">Quoting: Matyjasz I've read few reviews of that movie and the opinions were rather negative. </div> Oh yes especialy opinions of people who have oficers of "armia ludowa" in their families. It is movie about Katyń which shows not only extermination of our officers but situation of their families, German- Russian cooperation, propaganda , and situation of our society ... In my opinion this the way we should go, If we want to show our history, our values, our way of thinking, our choices. I m really glad that this movie isnt pathetic but realistic. I m really impresed.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Oct 10, 07, 17:15 / #
Quoting: rejbel want to see that movie really badly. has anybody have an idea when we will be able to get it or see it in us? I m 100% sure there will be DVD version.

John KingThreads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Jan 30, 08	Jan 30, 08, 23:27 / #
There is a DVD version later this year (April, I believe). And what's more, to broaden the movie's impact and appeal, it has English subtitles! I passed this information along to the Polish Canadian Cultural Association in Calgary, and am definitely going to get a copy for myself, and share it with my brothers and whoever else I can interest.

PrzemasThreads: 1 Posts: 149 Joined: Dec 12, 07	Jan 31, 08, 19:24 / #
Very poor effort from Wajda - was expecting much more from the man, especially about a movie on such a sensitive subject. Jumping from character to character especially near the end of the movie without establishing half of them was really the low point for me.

SadekThreads: 7 Posts: 231 Joined: Jan 11, 08	Edited by: Sadek Jan 31, 08, 20:13 / #
Przemas wrote: ery poor effort from Wajda - was expecting much more from the man, especially about a movie on such a sensitive subject. Jumping from character to character especially near the end of the movie without establishing half of them was really the low point for me. the best example of Polish lobby in USA ... Americans like it and nomminated it to OSCAR ... and przemas write "poor" ... ehhhh. that is why we complain about American Poles not about Canadian or Polonia in UK or France ... they do their job propoperly :) not like American Poles

PrzemasThreads: 1 Posts: 149 Joined: Dec 12, 07	Jan 31, 08, 20:49 / #
Sadek wrote: the best example of Polish lobby in USA ... Americans like it and nomminated it to OSCAR ... and przemas write "poor" ... ehhhh. that is why we complain about American Poles not about Canadian or Polonia in UK or France ... they do their job propoperly :) not like American Poles Amen Sadek, Patriotism and Nationalism have a very thin line, and too many individuals corss it due to confusion and a lack of subjective idealism.

Chris89Threads: - Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 28, 08	Feb 1, 08, 07:34 / #
i saw it when i was in poland. its good and to be honest i didnt understand most of it but had someone helping me out... its good to know a bit about Polands history with a different angle.

SadekThreads: 7 Posts: 231 Joined: Jan 11, 08	Edited by: Sadek Feb 2, 08, 15:03 / #
Anne Applebaum about Katyń Katyn wasn't a single wartime event, but a series of lies and distortions, told over decades, designed to disguise the reality of the Soviet postwar occupation and Poland's loss of sovereignty. http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.27444,filter.all/pub_detail.asp

QacerThreads: 44 Posts: 120 Joined: Jul 9, 07	Feb 3, 08, 15:42 / #
Does anyone have an English subtitle to this movie? The other half does not like translating while watching the movie.

michal85Threads: 1 Posts: 18 Joined: Feb 1, 08	Feb 4, 08, 22:03 / #
Qacer wrote: Does anyone have an English subtitle to this movie? There will be a subtitled version of this movie on DVD.

byronicThreads: 3 Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 16, 08	Nov 24, 08, 09:14 / #
i bought a copy in Warsaw, it has English subtitles. as to the other questions asked in this post; i believe that so far 'Katyn' has not found a major distributor in cinemas in the U.K. or the U.S. -which i think is a great pity: it's an important story and beautifully filmed and as such it deserves to be seen by a worldwide audience.

xray1960Threads: - Posts: 1 Joined: Nov 4, 08	Nov 26, 08, 12:57 / #
There is a distributer in the USA. I met an individual from the firm at the Wajda film festival in New York, in october of 2008. I also met Wajda himself at this event! The film will be released February of 2009. The sad thing is that it will likely be ghettoized to art film theaters. I know that the Film Forum theatre in New York City will be showing it then. The only way of reaching a wider audience is for this to be shown on PBS stations. Good luck with that! When a documentary on what happened to the Poles on the Kresy was presented to PBS (possibly WNET 13 in New York), it was turned down because "that period of history has been sufficiently covered"

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Nov 26, 08, 14:31 / #
michal85: There will be a subtitled version of this movie on DVD. I purchased it at Polbooks.com out of New York w/ English subtitles.

byronicThreads: 3 Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 16, 08	Nov 28, 08, 06:49 / #
i think english subtitles come as standard on all editions of the dvd as my copy has them and i bought it in Warsaw.