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Ryanair cancelling flights to Poland at short notice

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peterwegThreads: 35 Posts: 1,997 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Edited by: peterweg Jul 23, 08, 16:18 / #
In addition to the already announced cancelling of flights from many airports over winter, Ryanair seem to be cancelling flights that are un-economic for them. My friend from Krakow has been warned of a cancellation and it seems to be in relation to Ryanair's financial difficulty and depute with various airports about charges. (Ryanairs fuel bill, this year, 2.5Billion euro, will exceed last years entire income from all sources, they are in serious trouble) Basically, be warned Ryan may drop flying to some airports altogether and they are entitle to do it under their terms and conditions.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 23, 08, 16:25 / #
See my last post on this thread here - Free Flights at Ryanair? Despite being more expensive - I am flying with another operator.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 16:26 / #
peterweg: they are in serious trouble Who the airports or Ryanair ;0)

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 16:37 / #
do you get your money back if they cancel your flight?

telefonitika	Jul 23, 08, 16:49 / #
JustysiaS: do you get your money back if they cancel your flight? yeah you are entitled to your money back if the airline cancels and you dont wish to except a flight on another day or time :)

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,238 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 17:02 / #
Centralwings have also cancelled flights to Krakow from the UK as my mother tried and had no joy and had to book through easyjet for Christmas.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 17:03 / #
Credit crunch and high airport charges?

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Jul 23, 08, 17:11 / #
put it this way, if your flight is a cheap as chips, surely you cannot expect everything to be perfect. If you want a perfect flight then go BA or something, stop complaining here because you want to save yourself a couple of quid and then cry when your flights cancelled. If you wanted to be certain of your flight then you should have booked with a better airline!!! Wow am i in a bad mood or what

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,238 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	Edited by: ukpolska Jul 23, 08, 17:21 / #
BA from Gatwick to Krakow £393, Easyjet from Gatwick to Krakow £175.......More than a 'couple of quid' wouldn't you say.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 17:22 / #
tornado2007: Wow am i in a bad mood or what No, I think you are spot on! Since when has cheap meant good? I do agree when/if i happens to me I am angry, but companies have to make profit, simple as. I remember before cheap flights, bus loads of Poles slogging it 14 hours to England. how things change.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 23, 08, 17:33 / #
JET2.com fly to Krakow from Leeds Bradford from £100 return including taxes. They came out top in a "Which" ( consumer magazine ) report about budget airlines.

peterwegThreads: 35 Posts: 1,997 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Edited by: peterweg Jul 23, 08, 17:47 / #
JustysiaS: do you get your money back if they cancel your flight? Yes but obviously with a week to re-book they will be far more expensive. ukpolska: BA from Gatwick to Krakow £393, Easyjet from Gatwick to Krakow £175.......More than a 'couple of quid' wouldn't you say. And £200 from Ryanair (I double checked on the same dates Ryanair are more expensive than EJ). BA are £275 SeanBM : Credit crunch and high airport charges? Thats the smoke screen. Ryanair don't hedge their fuel (as the Ryanair boss puts it "hedging is for ******* gardeners") so they have been paying the full price of $140 - unlike most airlines that have contracts at $50-60. So basically Ryanair are losing money hand over fist and trying to squeeze it out of their customers and the airports. JET2.com fly to Krakow from Leeds Bradford from £100 return including taxes. They came out top in a "Which" ( consumer magazine ) report about budget airlines. Jet2.com are paying very little for their fuel (they hedged the price for next two years) so they will stay competitive. Ryanair are unique among all the airlines as Mike O'Leary has taken a massive gamble on fuel prices and lost, to the tune of over a billion Euro's.

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 17:53 / #
i looked at ryanairs site the other day, was just checking out some domestic flights to Scotland, but i noticed that they fly to loads of airports in Poland, such as Bydgoszcz, Łódź or Poznań. flew with them to Dublin once, funny how all the cabin staff were Polish.

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,238 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 17:55 / #
peterweg: In addition to the already announced cancelling of flights from many airports over winter, Ryanair seem to be cancelling flights that are un-economic for them. Meanwhile, the airline is also set to temporarily close operations at between November 4th and December 19th at a number of European airports, including Budapest, Krakow, Palma and Salzburg. link

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 17:56 / #
peterweg: hedge their fuel Please explain this term. JustysiaS: that will teach us what? if there is a choice, anyone NORMAL will look for a cheaper flight I think "NORMAL" people book in advance and can get good deals with most airlines. I think the MTV generation quickly forget when it cost an arm and a leg to travel and there were still complaints. Ryanair revolutionised air travel in Europe and now we need the next step in Evolution...

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Jul 23, 08, 17:59 / #
Ryan was once cheap. Not any more. But whatever. They're still sh!t

peterwegThreads: 35 Posts: 1,997 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Edited by: peterweg Jul 23, 08, 18:00 / #
SeanBM: peterweg: hedge their fuel Please explain this term. They enter a contract to buy fuel at a fixed price for a set period. Many airlines have agreements giving they fuel at a fixed price far below the market price. Jet2.com are paying something like the equivalent of $60 a barrel for the next 2 years whereas the market price is $125 at present. I think "NORMAL" people book in advance and can get good deals with most airlines. But in the current crisis an airline like Ryanair will simply cancel the flight if its un-economic for them, and their fares do not cover the cost of the fuel. VaFunkoolo: Ryan was once cheap. Not any more. But whatever. They're still sh!t Indeed and in fact its now cheaper to use the train to get to the south of France (for instance).

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 18:09 / #
Thanks for the low down peterwag. peterweg: But in the current crisis an airline like Ryanair I do not think Ryanair are a normal airline, I meant that "normal" people can book cheaper in advance with most airlines, it pays to book in advance. Ryanair=cheap last minute unreliable, goodness help you if you have a connecting flight, type thing. Didnt some airline company go bust after they took all the bookings from people about 4 years ago, it was for Christmas.

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Edited by: VaFunkoolo Jul 23, 08, 18:14 / #
It does make me laugh tho with the Poles ALL buying priority bording passes and then still having to wait in a huge queue and then they ALL rush up the first set of stairs up to the plane

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 23, 08, 18:15 / #
VaFunkoolo: priority bording passes What a gimmick.Whats the point in them ? The plane aint going to take off any quicker !

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Edited by: JustysiaS Jul 23, 08, 18:16 / #
we love to queue, VF :). we form a queue hours before they open the gate ha ha. szkotja2007: What a gimmick.Whats the point in them ? The plane aint going to take off any quicker ! but that's the thing, they promise a Pole that HE will get on the plane before everyone else, can't imagine anything more tempting than that! all the jealous stares you will get! i think that if they assembled a seperate gate with a VIP sign on it and a red carpet leading all the way to the plane, Poles would go crazy for it! LOL! what always makes me laugh is how they run to get on first even tho everyone has a seat assigned to them. it happens every single time...

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Edited by: VaFunkoolo Jul 23, 08, 18:17 / #
szkotja2007: Whats the point in them ? LOL very little when everyone else has bought one too JustysiaS: we love to queue, VF :). we form a queue hours before they open the gate ha ha. I know! It's hilarious to watch and even more so when people try to queue jump :)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jul 23, 08, 18:19 / #
You just don't get It...

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 18:31 / #
SeanBM: cheap=carp it might be cheap, but that is our main dish on the xmas table ha ha... on a serious note, of course a normal, straight thinking person will try to get the best deal possible. especially if it's a Pole lol. it is not true that cheap is always crap. i booked my xmas plane ticket last year for £115 (return) with BA, done it in may but that's what i'm talking about. it was cheap, and it was quality. just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's absolutely brilliant. it's usually just as good as the 'cheap crap', with a few fancy things that you don't really need trown in. and often you also pay just for the brand/name.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Jul 23, 08, 18:36 / #
JustysiaS: JustysiaS Two cheapest flight I ever got were 320 pound sterling to Nepal from London and 15pound sterling from Krakow to London. Nepal return including taxes. Krakow London was one way I was looking for this, we got into Osiol's Random Chat Thread (deleted monthly)!!! yeeeeepy What now we got trashed binned back into the thread it was meant to have been in eh? what's the story lads? ha ha ha

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Jul 23, 08, 18:47 / #
back in this thread again, wooop! confusing! anyway i think the best deal i ever got was about £40 (bought it in Poland, it's funny how the flights cost cheaper if you buy them in Poland) for a return London to Gdansk, only 2 months in advance (had a dentist appointment lol)... i'd probably get a better deal if i wanted to fly to Krakow, but that is on the other side of Poland.

Cambiasso	Jul 23, 08, 18:51 / #
had a £30 flight to Berlin (Germany) £40 Krakow (Poland) £15 Glasgow (Scotland) Also lots of really really really cheap flights to Portugal, Spain, France etc etc the usuals really. I guess you have to remember this was before the big hike in fuel tax

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Jul 23, 08, 19:13 / #
Cambiasso: had a £30 flight to Berlin (Germany) £40 Krakow (Poland) You should give a destination for that to make sense, no? I mean £30 flight to Berlin from Mozambique is very cheap but from Berlin, well that is just silly

Cambiasso	Jul 23, 08, 19:16 / #
SeanBM: You should give a destination for that to make sense, no? I mean £30 flight to Berlin from Mozambique is very cheap but from Berlin, well that is just silly yeah of couse sorry :) they are all from the UK, some from Bristol, some from Manchester, some from Gatwick. I'm sorry but i can't remember which is which as i've flown many times.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Jul 23, 08, 19:27 / #
Cambiasso: yeah of couse sorry :) they are all from the UK, some from Bristol, some from Manchester, some from Gatwick. I'm sorry but i can't remember which is which as i've flown many times. Actually, now that you mention it, I have flown return into Gatwich and out of Heatrow many times, an important thing to remember is from door to door, how much does it cost. I have really mashed myself up by not including the door to door.

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