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Foreign fake license plates in Poland



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Hi,

I often see Belgian lisence plates here in Krakow.
Because I am Belgian, I know how they look like, but a lot of the Belgian plates you see here in Poland (75%) are fake, and are on cars driven by Polish people.
I was wondering why they do this, because you can never get insurance on a fake plate.
The thing in Belgium is that the plate stays with the owner, so not with the car, so if they buy a car, there are no plates on it.
Anyone an idea about the why?
tj123   Jul 28, 09, 15:57 /  #
Polish people cheating!?!?!

MY GOD IT CAN'T BE!!!!!
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dxx:
Anyone an idea about the why?

Maybe dodgy Belgians selling stolen cars on Ebay?
tj123   Jul 28, 09, 16:21 /  #
niejestemcapita:
Maybe dodgy Belgians selling stolen cars on Ebay?

Yeah blame the Belgians who are known for car theft, scams and cheating :\

I swear a Pole could be caught in the middle of robbing a bank and they would blame someone else..."It wasn't our fault! The Germans made us do it!"
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tj123:
the Belgians who are known for car theft, scams and cheating :

yeh they are quite well known for corruption and dishonesty..:)
By the way save your insults about the Polish............for someone else..:)
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tj123:
I swear a Pole could be caught in the middle of robbing a bank and they would blame someone else...

You forgot to add that any Pole who failed to immediately blame somebody else in such a situation would automatically be classified as either a Jew or a Soviet (or both) and thus not a real Pole.
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Hi guys,

Could you please stay on topic since this is something that really intriges me

Cheers
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dxx:
Anyone an idea about the why?

Most probably because driving a foreign registered car immediately stops you from needing to worry about traffic cameras, speed camera and parking tickets.

And having seen the reaction of many Polish police to a British driving license, I would be amazed if any of them could recognise a Belgian insurance certificate.
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I think you confuse them with German transit plates, which as I remember have the same colour as the Belgian ones.
I am also Belgian, and transit plates in our colours can be seen quite often here in Warsaw.
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sobieski:
I think you confuse them with German transit plates,

You have good point there...:)
tj123   Jul 28, 09, 16:51 /  #
dxx:
Could you please stay on topic since this is something that really intriges me

We are...it is likely either avoiding licensing bothers and fees for personal use, or stolen cars being trafficked. Foreign plates from Western countries are less likely to be harassed. Automobile related scams and cheating are common here.
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sobieski:
I think you confuse them with German transit plates, which as I remember have the same colour as the Belgian ones.

True for some transit plates, but the belgian plates are always 3 letters - 3 digits or 3 digits - 3 letters while the german ones usually only have digits and a lot more, and on top of that, they have a D on them.

I have lived in Belgium my whole life so I think I would recognize a Belgian plate ;-)
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tj123:
Foreign plates from Western countries are less likely to be harassed.

Look who has never driven a foreign registered car here!
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Here you can find an example of a fake plate from Belgium, you can clearly see its a self-constructed one :)

Fake plate
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Beats me... I am Belgian from birth.... am spending my holidays at home in Antwerp at the moment... And you know...half the license plates look like the one on the photo :)
It feels a bit like the children's game "Find the 7 differences" :)

On the other hand, somebody managed to steal a wheel cover from my VW Touran here in Antwerp, and I do not think our fleet manager will reimburse me for that one.
(My car is standing outside in Warsaw every night, never happened to me)
Made a phone call to a local VW dealer here in Antwerp, they told me a new cover would cost me 30 Euro. For piece of plastic made in Vietnam, just because "VW" is printed on it????
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Well Sobieski, then there is only one option, wait till its dark and seek a touran with the same wheelcaps ;-)
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I don't want to sound like I'm generalizing but do Belgiumites use license plates made of chocolate?
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I've seen two cars with Belgian number plates in Glasgow today, and they looked differently (I'm talking about the plates of course), is there only one type of lettering on Belgian reggies ?
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Well...my car has Polish plates :) The one that looked different had obviously to be Polish :))))
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Bartolome:
I've seen two cars with Belgian number plates in Glasgow today, and they looked differently (I'm talking about the plates of course), is there only one type of lettering on Belgian reggies ?

No, normally all lettering is the same on all plates, only difference is sometimes u get letters and digits (ABC-123) and sometimes the other way around (123-ABC)
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dxx:
No, normally all lettering is the same on all plates, only difference is sometimes u get letters and digits (ABC-123) and sometimes the other way around (123-ABC)

...so at least one of these reggies was false, then ?
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Yeah, but its very common to see fake Belgian plates since we are one of the few countries in Europe that dont have the European flag on the plates...
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sobieski:
On the other hand, somebody managed to steal a wheel cover from my VW Touran here in Antwerp, and I do not think our fleet manager will reimburse me for that one.
(My car is standing outside in Warsaw every night, never happened to me)

If tj123 and Harry had nothing to comment on that, I am the one who fils the gap: your wheel cover must have been stolen by a Pole who came to Belgium (this is because your car had Polish plates on it). As to explaining why it never happened to you in Warsaw, it needs some more investigation, I'm afraid ...
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No, normally all lettering is the same on all plates, only difference is sometimes u get letters and digits (ABC-123) and sometimes the other way around (123-ABC)

Still I do not get it - OK I only went to uni and was born in Belgium. Maybe that's it :) Actually how do you see they are fake ? From your explanation the "fake ones" on the photo are identical to the real ones I saw last week in Antwerp.

If tj123 and Harry had nothing to comment on that, I am the one who fils the gap: your wheel cover must have been stolen by a Pole who came to Belgium (this is because your car had Polish plates on it). As to explaining why it never happened to you in Warsaw, it needs some more investigation, I'm afraid
Actually it crossed my mind as well :)
Anyway our fleet manager approved - very grudgingly I have to admit - to reimburse the cost for a new wheel cover :)
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sobieski:
Still I do not get it - OK I only went to uni and was born in Belgium. Maybe that's it :) Actually how do you see they are fake ? From your explanation the "fake ones" on the photo are identical to the real ones I saw last week in Antwerp.

Well, its not that hard, on new plates u have the little circle above the stripe between the letters and digits, as seen here :

thing above the stripe ;)

The old ones have this as well but it is not coloured.
If you see a plate with the letter I - M - Q - W in it, it is always a new plate and should have that mark.
Also, if you look at the plate from the side, you can also see the year of issuing in it, for example 06 - 07
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