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Foreigner in Poland asking for information how to travel to Scotland?


mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #1
im not an Europian citizin , i live in poland , and i need to go to scotland ...
do i need visa to go there ?? or i can travel there normaly with my card??
i traveled before to norway with my card ..
any help will be great
thanks
wildrover 98 | 4,441  
24 Jun 2009 /  #2
If you tell us what nationality you are we can tell you if you need a visa for the UK ...or not....
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #3
i,m from Nigeria and i,m married to to polish living in Poland for 3 years and have a residence card
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163  
24 Jun 2009 /  #4
Technically, I believe you're allowed under some EU regulation or another.

But the UK immigration authorities are a law unto themselves - and I don't believe for a minute that they'll let you in without a hell of a fight, especially considering some of their attitudes towards their own.
tornado2007 11 | 2,270  
24 Jun 2009 /  #5
I don't believe for a minute that they'll let you in without a hell of a fight, especially considering some of their attitudes towards their own.

you are joking right, they let and Abdul, Ski and Vic in these days. They will be fighting to get him in let alone stop him from entering!!!!.

i need to go to scotland ...

you NEED to go to Scotland, so you just don't WANT to you NEED to. There is a big difference in the two words, when you say 'i need' it is like a necessity on the other hand when you say 'i want' it is something you desire. I'm sure you have no reason for you to NEED to go to Scotland, in fact i'll bet your bottom dollar in reality its a WANT.

my card

Do you mean passport?? as you will require one of these to enter the UK, in fact you would need it to enter any country, unless your coming in the back of a lorry of course.

do i need visa to go there ??

as for whether or not you would be allowed, i assume that as you have been married to a Polish citizen and working in Poland for more than a year, you would qualify as being able to enter the UK.
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #6
delphiandomine.Please point of correction.I,m not going there to live.me and my wife is going there to see the father who reside over there,is just a visiting and we come back to Poland and get back to work.Do you mean passport??I don,t have passport.what i have is residence card.i want to know if Scotland have special visa requirement different than UK
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
24 Jun 2009 /  #7
No, Scotland doesn't have any such barriers. You are free to go there :)
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #8
Seanus GOLD MEMBER are you telling me that Scotland is different from UK,so i can go there with my Nigeria passport and my polish residence card without UK visa in my passport?
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
24 Jun 2009 /  #9
no Mr Cool, it's all the UK. I would have thought that being married to an EU citizen and with an EU residence card, you would have no problem for a visit, I don't think you need a passport, why not do some research online?
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
24 Jun 2009 /  #10
Sorry, you need a tourist visa. It takes 4 days to process. It is valid for a varying time period. 6 months is the normal one.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
24 Jun 2009 /  #11
delphiandomine.Please point of correction.I,m not going there to live.me and my wife is going there to see the father who reside over there,is just a visiting and we come back to Poland and get back to work.Do you mean passport??I don,t have passport.what i have is residence card.i want to know if Scotland have special visa requirement different than UK

you will need a visa, having residency means nothing, you are not a Polish citizen, you may even be refused that, things are really tightening up...

I don,t have passport.

You have a nigerian passport, which isnt going to get you into Britain without a visa (we have many nationalities in Britain who are only residents, they are not subjects i.e. they dont have the same rights of as those who are so called citizens), even if your wife is Polish...
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #12
I was surprised because many people who get married to Polish citizens need visa to UK because United Kingdom is not among the Schengen countries. They only accept European Union passport not Polish residence card. Please I want to know if in Scotland they have their own regulations or they apply the same law as UK regarding visa.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
24 Jun 2009 /  #13
They apply the same law, we are not an independent country, yet!! You need documentation.
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #14
ShelleyS Thanks for your concern I really appreciate it. I was a little bit confused but I think I get the clue now. My regard goes for all of you who care and show concern about my question. Once again I thank you all. One love Nigeria one love Poland
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
24 Jun 2009 /  #15
You are welcome, mr cool. It's good to have a bona fide Nigerian who is interested in actual procedures and not scams.

Good luck!
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
24 Jun 2009 /  #16
I was surprised because many people who get married to Polish citizens need visa to UK because United Kingdom is not among the Schengen countries. They only accept European Union passport not Polish residence card. Please I want to know if in Scotland they have their own regulations or they apply the same law as UK regarding visa.

Whats the big problem, you just need to get a visa, by the way, its very strict these days they take a photo and your finger prints to ensure you are not on any crime d/base anywhere in the world.

As I have already stated, anyone can be a resident (they are just there temporarliy or biding their time for citizenship) in a country, why should they have the same rights as a citizen? Yeah it was a smart move that we didnt enter into the Schegen zone :0)

Better get down the embassy for your visa ;0)
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #17
ShelleyS.Thanks for all.for me it make no different what they want from me.I try my best to be a good citizen of Nigeria and apply the same here.what ever UK want from me i will give them just to make sure I go with My wife to see the Father.so if They give me Visa better and if not too God be the glory.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163  
24 Jun 2009 /  #18
its very strict these days they take a photo and your finger prints to ensure you are not on any crime d/base anywhere in the world.

immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=15545

This is actually a source for the definitive word on the matter.

The moral of the story is that the UK is yet again completely uncompliant with an EU directive.

To the original poster - avoid the UK as long as they're not complying with the relevant EU directive. It's simply not worth the hassle!
OP mr cool  
24 Jun 2009 /  #19
delphiandomine.Thanks so much.My wife and the family believe everything now.I told them i need Visa to UK but none of them believe.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163  
24 Jun 2009 /  #20
You shouldn't, but sadly, the UK seems to be putting up barriers where there shouldn't be any. The politics are neither here nor there - the fact is that they are obliged to facilitate free access to people like yourself, who are then forced to jump through needless hoops.

You're good for any of the Schengen countries though - but best practice is to make sure that you take a *lot* of supporting documentation including copies of the relevant directive, just in case you're stopped.

But..but. You've been living in Poland for three years - have you been married for those three years? If so, aren't you now entitled to citizenship?
OP mr cool  
25 Jun 2009 /  #21
No we live for 3years now but been marred for 2years and 9days now,citizenship is not my problem.I can only collect citizenship only if they allow me to have my Nigeria passport and polish passport.I,m happy to be a Nigeria so passport can never change me for anything.all i need is to work hard and keep my family moving.If you don,t stand for something you may even lose it all.what must be must be.

ONE LOVE NIGERIA ONE LOVE POLAND
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Jun 2009 /  #22
The moral of the story is that the UK is yet again completely uncompliant with an EU directive.

And if people didn't over stay visas there wouldnt be a problem, moral of the story is if foreigners break the laws then we will change the laws :0)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163  
25 Jun 2009 /  #23
I can only collect citizenship only if they allow me to have my Nigeria passport and polish passport.

Shouldn't be a problem, Poland requires you to be Polish when in Poland, but doesn't care less about what you are otherwise.

And if people didn't over stay visas there wouldnt be a problem, moral of the story is if foreigners break the laws then we will change the laws :0)

There isn't a problem though - the UK is required to implement access under the relevant directive, and is instead choosing to tie people up in endless red tape. It's the same nonsense that makes Russian/Belarussian visas so ridiculously expensive for us.

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