Life in Pre and Post Communist Poland

The main difference between Poland then and now is that during the miserable real-socialism era people had money, but couldn't buy anything because shop shelves were empty (the symbol of downfall of communism are mustard and vinegard as the only 'shelf fillers') and now they can buy whatewer they want, but many can't afford it.

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06	Feb 17, 07, 06:38 / #
For all of you who have lived during both eras---what are the differences or simularities in daily living for the average Pole. If you had a choice, would you prefer the communist way of life compared to your life today.....let me rephrase.....are there parts of each system you would combine to obtain an optimal living situation? Does this make sense?

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Feb 17, 07, 07:15 / #
The main difference between Poland then and now is that during the miserable real-socialism era people had money, but couldn't buy anything because shop shelves were empty (the symbol of downfall of communism are mustard and vinegard as the only 'shelf fillers') and now they can buy whatewer they want, but many can't afford it. Living during communist era very often was everyday struggle to get the most basic food products, which you had to queue for for a very long time, and often you were buying products not because you wanted them, but just because they were available (like my parents did with, let's say it, not of the prime beauty pink tiles Fortunately, they're still laying somewhere in the loft of our house). You couldn't buy a car or flat like you can today - you had to apply for them and wait even for decades, only if you knew or were a relative of 'the right people' (the best choice were party officials - but that could earn you envy of your acquaintances). The phone line was often beyond reach of an ordinary man - I won't forget the times when people were coming to us to use our phone (and since they often phoned their family members abroad, it provided us with a constant stream of German chocolate and coffee ). To cut the whole story short - I wouldn't import any features of socialist country into modern, capitalistic society.

mlody	Mar 26, 07, 00:20 / #
I miss the communist area sometimes (at least when I'm not hungry :). But currently I like it better (even though it's not as safe as it used to be and some people cannot use the freedom they have in a good way).

nat123	Sep 25, 08, 05:09 / #
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Del boyThreads: 22 Posts: 318 Joined: Jun 29, 07	Sep 25, 08, 05:24 / #
Difference was/is simple Good houses, expensive toys, access to good humanistic education ( not technical, that one was available for all ) were available only to party members and whole bunch of engineers of souls ( literates, journalists alike 1984 Orwell's type) Now ordinary people by hard work can reach these assets as well. short and simplified

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07	Sep 25, 08, 19:10 / #
Ranj: what are the differences Plenty of parking places but no cars. Now we have a huge amount of cars but no parking places ;) Traffic jams. Stresful speed cameras. No joy driving a car. Despite that die communism nightmare die ;) Never come back.

beckyinjozefowThreads: 1 Posts: 28 Joined: Sep 5, 08	Sep 28, 08, 12:25 / #
The main difference between Poland then and now is that during the miserable real-socialism era people had money, but couldn't buy anything because shop shelves were empty (the symbol of downfall of communism are mustard and vinegard as the only 'shelf fillers') and now they can buy whatewer they want, but many can't afford it. Everyone would have money now as well if there was nothing to buy. It's called "forced savings". All their pent up wants/needs released...is it no wonder there is no money? I saw 40-year-olds squealing around in sports cars like a 20 year olds...(1994)...

markcooperThreads: 6 Posts: 113 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Aug 27, 09, 12:17 / #
beckyinjozefow: Everyone would have money now as well if there was nothing to buy. It's called "forced savings". All their pent up wants/needs released...is it no wonder there is no money? I saw 40-year-olds squealing around in sports cars like a 20 year olds...(1994)... Were you aloud to leave Poland in the Soviet Union days ? or baiscally held prisoner of your own country like the former East Germany / GDR ?

Otis Tarda	Aug 28, 09, 09:06 / #
It depends. Going to other communist states was quite easy, although still it wasn't "automatic" to get the passport that let you to do so. Obtaining passport to "capitalist" state was another matter. If, for some reason, authorities decided that you shouldn't get one, you wouldn't. And in most cases they decided that you shouldn't. Of course, there were possibilities - say for sportsmen, scientists and so on, but, even then any "suspicious" person wouldn't get the one. Moreover, you could not held your passport freely, even if you had one. After to weeks since getting back to Poland, you were obliged to return your passport to the nearest police station.

markcooperThreads: 6 Posts: 113 Joined: Apr 27, 09	Aug 28, 09, 12:26 / #
I like the way you use the term " capitalsit" when describing all countires other than those within the Soviet regime and behind the iron curtain. I remember these days very well when living in London and also West Berlin. Many of the products on sale in shops were marked with " made in USSR" " made in Czech Rep" " made in Poland". Thier export market was huge. These were just as much capitlaist countries . The difference being the benefits and profits when to the central government and not the people.

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09	Aug 31, 09, 23:27 / #
birski10: trust me life in poland sucks but for vacation its the best most of life in europe sucks And you are an expert on which subject?

birski10Threads: 2 Posts: 2 Joined: Aug 31, 09	Aug 31, 09, 23:26 / #
trust me life in poland sucks but for vacation its the best most of life in europe sucks