Polish speed cameras

drew128:

are you an American? With all the health and safety, Hi Vis and speed cameras in Blighty people still get killed or injured on the motorways

drew128:

Anyway Mistic Meg when do I meet the judge, I am accident free all my driving life and I am looking to keep it that whatever Poland throws at me, so my driving style has changed to suit the conditions I now drive in and I do like it

drew128:

the Poles are cuddley kittens compared to Dutch trying to get home.

drew128:

If I drove here in an English styleee, I reckon I would be danger to the locals with my pottering along looking for potential picnic spots and tutting at all wrong doing, so I do choose to blend in. You walk out my door and most people if transport allows are doing 20 - 30 clicks above the limit in our village, the man with the clipboard is not here for me, so adapt and survive.

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Sep 28, 09, 15:46 / #
A lot of the blighters popping up on the highways and byways of the Polish road network. Do they work? are they switched on? have any got film in? As an Englishman I have a natural Hate/Hate of them and did use to spot cameras for a database in the UK The database has many Polish ones now as well, so I do my best to update speeds and new cameras to keep that up to date. This is a sat nav sorta site, they review devices, but also do this camera site database. My question would be, is there a Polish version, reviews of sat navs or indeed a home grown database of camera positions?

db1874Threads: 10 Posts: 251 Joined: Jun 28, 07	Sep 28, 09, 15:53 / #
yes lots of them popping up, often at accident blackspots and hopefully they will have an effect and cut the rather high accident rate in Poland. I've been caught once (near Lomianki) and the police were actually dialled into the camera and waiting a further 2km down the road to pull me over. There never seems to be any camera's in the cities though, they're mainly on the highways.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,467 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Sep 28, 09, 16:05 / #
drew128: Do they work? are they switched on? have any got film in? no no and no in my experience.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Sep 28, 09, 16:13 / #
db1874: I've been caught once (near Lomianki) and the police were actually dialled into the camera and waiting a further 2km down the road to pull me over. Hehe... that was quick.

EnglishpoznanThreads: 14 Posts: 152 Joined: Apr 21, 09	Sep 28, 09, 16:37 / #
Drew- I'm not sure if this any help to you but i know some Polish sat navs warn you about speed cameras because my father in law always gets warnings with his. As for if they work yes they do seemingly as well as the bast#rds bk home!!

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Edited by: drew128 Sep 28, 09, 16:42 / #
Wroclaw Boy: no no and no in my experience I have noticed a lot of traffic does not slow down for them, which get me thinking there are not active or that people do not see the warning signs, if that was the case there would be a mountain of prosecutions going on. We have a few nearby, a 50 KPH one which no one slows for, one thats been painted, one thats been turned around to face a house and my favorite one at the end of a dead end street, maybe talking pictures of entering a field at speed is popular. Englishpoznan: Drew- I'm not sure if this any help to you but i know some Polish sat navs warn you about speed cameras because my father in law always gets warnings with his. As for if they work yes they do seemingly as well as the bast#rds bk home!! Most systems do have some form of POI warning of cameras, it depends on the company keeping that updated. This database I use is a subscription one, although spot a new camera it becomes free, which is what happened to me. In the UK it is considered to be the best as its members do the spotting or verifying sites. I got asked to look at Poland as I am here, its unpaid, so I only do it on journeys I do in my own time. As the only person doing it in Poland for this database its a drop in the ocean to be honest. The coverage is now good in Europe, so I do my bit for Poland....

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 804 Joined: Dec 2, 07	Sep 28, 09, 17:10 / #
None of them seem to work, I tested all of them between Zakapane and Poznan at about 4 am and hardly any of them flashed and the ones that did didn't generate a ticket. UK registered car - no problem

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Sep 28, 09, 17:23 / #
I really feel that the Poles are often blamed for bad driving unjustly. I can say we drive very well ... just some inexperienced driver from other parts of Europe mess things up....and there is an accident...they blame us!

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 804 Joined: Dec 2, 07	Sep 28, 09, 17:25 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: I really feel that the Poles are often blamed for bad driving unjustly. I can say we drive very well ... just some inexperienced driver from other parts of Europe mess things up....and there is an accident...they blame us! Some of the time yes but the overall standard of driving here is terrible, I had some t wat crash into the back of me at traffic lights and i was told it was my fault even though i was stopped.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Sep 28, 09, 17:27 / #
dnz: I had some t wat crash into the back of me at traffic lights and i was told it was my fault even though i was stopped. I've seen that quite often. And yes its the fault of the person who stops without any signal. I find it so strange that always the foreighner will blame the Polish man for accidents. Maybe you dont know how to drive in Poland!

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Edited by: drew128 Sep 29, 09, 10:52 / #
db1874: lol...that's one way of putting it, wait till you've been smashed into a few times. I do like driving here, I am much more alert to possible problems ahead, with the roads, slow vehicles, dogs, unlit cycles, its a good long list to hone your skills, staying out of trouble is a good skill to acquire. My first venture here in a car was 30 minutes of hell. I stopped at a gas station, re-composed myself and decided to join in with them and that seems to work. I find people in Britain a bit hung up about performance, be it in bed or on the road, that you have to be the best and get upset when they are told they are not terrible good. I like the Polish way, A to B as quick as possible, if its messy who cares, onwards into infinity. Scotty in the back seat of a PL Fiat screaming "the engines canna handle it captain" Driving in the UK is so dull, miserable people stuck in traffic, crawling past endless cameras and liable to snap and knife you at any second, should you dare to try to get somewhere before them. I am a fan of Polish driving, pulling over to the right to let someone past as they blast into oncoming traffic, its like ballet :-) a flash of the indicators to let everyone know they are still alive. The UK has been repressed by health and safety, the PC culture, I am a caged bird been set free......I think I will get on my bike and peddle the wrong way up the expressway.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 29, 09, 15:30 / #
drew128: I think I will get on my bike and peddle the wrong way up the expressway. That would probably save somebody else's life.

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Edited by: drew128 Sep 29, 09, 16:12 / #
mvefa: Because they ignore the security regulations! driven drunk, gaining on the wrong side of the lane, speeding up/down, etc. Not sure who we are on about here, sorry. mvefa: Give it time, irresponsability always leads to dissaster. Yes, always the risk, but if you lose the ability to risk assess yourself and become reliant on pamphlets and TV campaigns then surely you become the higher risk to you and all around. With that thought process you would have to live in a paddled cell for the rest of your life. mvefa: What a load of....., the number of casualties by traffic accidents in the netherlands are far behind those of the UK or Poland, FAAAR behind I have worked a lot in Holland, I have no formed opinion, seems an okay place, the best theaters to work in for sure, I would really need to be driving in Warsaw to get the same buzz as trying to get to the ferry around Rotterdam, maybe its just the locals. The Poles have to drive on some pretty bad roads with a lot more road furniture in the way, people like me riding bikes on the wrong side of the road, a lot more hazard than the westerners deal with, I think they do okay given all that. mvefa: That's why driving is still crappy in Poland, it's easier to go with the flow than put your foot down and give an example. Driving in Poland is not crappy or do you mean the Polish drivers are crappy. I think the Western ideals about performance, being really good at something is the problem. The Poles just want to get from A to B, I doubt they care how perfect their gear change is. As long as I understand the locals and anticipate what they then my date with judge is hopefully a long way away. Caged animal...H&S Its like this, a big machine with wirily bits, I might consider not putting my hand in the dark hole which appears to be omitting saw blade like sounds. Thats not good enough for the UK, they have to have a sign telling you not to do it. The next machine does not have a sign telling me not to insert hands or manhood and wolla natural selection takes place. I like it here because I can exercise some nous on me jack jones. time means: Read his other posts, they are all crap and full of drivel. I am not feeling the love :-( time means: Are you really from the uk? No one calls it "gas". Yep, I am British, but just arrived from Denmark, so gas station it is to me. I could say MSA petrol/diesel outlet whatever you want. time means: You have a very immature attitude to dangerous driving. Are you singlehandedly going reform the Polish drivers to the standard you think is correct, great but until then I have to do what everyone does its less risky

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Sep 29, 09, 16:50 / #
Wroclaw Boy: One example: if you drive the speed limit here you'll have nutters over taking you left right and centre your chance of an accident instantly increases by about 90%. This might be true, but this guy talks like he enjoys all of the danger he is deliveratly causing, that's madness!!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,467 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Sep 28, 09, 17:28 / #
drew128: one thats been turned around to face a house and my favorite one at the end of a dead end street, Ever seen a speed meter stating the speed limit in KMH but it actually reads it in MPH, now thats Poland for you. "Not my job guv". Lodz_The_Boat: I really feel that the Poles are often blamed for bad driving unjustly. I can say we drive very well ... just some inexperienced driver from other parts of Europe mess things up....and there is an accident...they blame us! Thats absolute crap, im still waiting for your detailed explenation of your car accident the one that you said it was the other drivers fault as you assumed he could see and that your tyres didnt work properly. Have you experience of driving abroad to back up that statement. Lodz_The_Boat: And yes its the fault of the person who stops without any signal. BREAK LIGHTS ANYONE, what do you expect a white fcuking flag? So DNZ should have driven through a red light as well becuase if he stops and somebody hits him hes at fault what if he drove on threw and killed somebody else. Great these Polish rules.

zakoinfoThreads: 3 Posts: 8 Joined: Sep 27, 09	Sep 28, 09, 17:36 / #
Hard to say isn't it! A lot of new cameras have appeared between Krakow and Zakopane in the last couple of years with the new road being built, when i first drove that route there were non but now there are quite a few dotted along the way, which are hard to spot in Poland as well! In the UK you get the big yellow box that can be seen a mile off and in Poland the dark grey boxes that just creep up on you! Hard to just ignore them though because as soon as you do we all know what happens!

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 804 Joined: Dec 2, 07	Sep 28, 09, 17:47 / #
Lodz_The_Boat: I've seen that quite often. And yes its the fault of the person who stops without any signal. I was stopped at the traffic lights behind another car and this khunt drove into the back of me I was stopped for a good 30 seconds before this happened how could it possibly be my fault? The majority of polish drivers have an ego far bigger than their engine capacity and are just clueless, especially the men, The women don't seem to bad. Wroclaw Boy: BREAK LIGHTS ANYONE, what do you expect a white fcuking flag? So DNZ should have driven through a red light as well becuase if he stops and somebody hits him hes at fault what if he drove on threw and killed somebody else. Great these Polish rules. My thoughts exactly sir.

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Sep 28, 09, 17:58 / #
What ever they are the do not flash, they front face that would be dangerous, they are infra red I would say. I actually love driving here, its edging and exciting, anyway thanks chaps, all good information.

db1874Threads: 10 Posts: 251 Joined: Jun 28, 07	Sep 29, 09, 08:38 / #
drew128: What ever they are the do not flash, they front face that would be dangerous yes they don't flash, in my experience the police are able to 'log in' to the camera and wait further down the road to pull you over, have seen it many times and been caught once. drew128: I actually love driving here, its edging and exciting, lol...that's one way of putting it, wait till you've been smashed into a few times.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 29, 09, 14:40 / #
drew128: A lot of the blighters popping up on the highways and byways of the Polish road network. Do they work? are they switched on? have any got film in? Don't worry about it. Just keep your UK licence and you can't get any points.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 29, 09, 14:53 / #
drew128: The UK has been repressed by health and safety, the PC culture, I am a caged bird been set free......I think I will get on my bike and peddle the wrong way up the expressway. What a load of crap! dude what are you 15? are you gonna say the same to the judge when you kill a person? It's not about being caged its about being MATURE, to respect the life of others which whether you want it or not, are at some point in your hands. Irresponsible kid.

drew128Threads: 3 Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 3, 07	Sep 29, 09, 15:27 / #
mvefa: What a load of crap! dude what are you 15? are you gonna say the same to the judge when you kill a person? It's not about being caged its about being MATURE, to respect the life of others which whether you want it or not, are at some point in your hands. Irresponsible kid. Dude..... are you an American? With all the health and safety, Hi Vis and speed cameras in Blighty people still get killed or injured on the motorways, so it appears not to make much difference apart from the numbing of peoples ability to think for themselves and get through a day with out being reliant on a bloke with a clipboard telling them how to do something that that person has actually never done themselves. So the freedom of personal thought regarding dangers is indeed something to cherish in a very over cautious world in general. If I drove here in an English styleee, I reckon I would be danger to the locals with my pottering along looking for potential picnic spots and tutting at all wrong doing, so I do choose to blend in. You walk out my door and most people if transport allows are doing 20 - 30 clicks above the limit in our village, the man with the clipboard is not here for me, so adapt and survive. Anyway Mistic Meg when do I meet the judge, I am accident free all my driving life and I am looking to keep it that whatever Poland throws at me, so my driving style has changed to suit the conditions I now drive in and I do like it. I see that you have a Dutch connection, are you really going to tell me life is safe around Rotterdam come rush hour, no they are lunatics, the Poles are cuddley kittens compared to Dutch trying to get home. I am not 15, not close even, but me mum is going to put me tea on now and then I am going to put some neon tubes under the car, so I have to tot off. I look forward to fully risk assessed response.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 29, 09, 15:34 / #
drew128: are you an American? With all the health and safety, Hi Vis and speed cameras in Blighty people still get killed or injured on the motorways Because they ignore the security regulations! driven drunk, gaining on the wrong side of the lane, speeding up/down, etc. drew128: Anyway Mistic Meg when do I meet the judge, I am accident free all my driving life and I am looking to keep it that whatever Poland throws at me, so my driving style has changed to suit the conditions I now drive in and I do like it Give it time, irresponsability always leads to dissaster. drew128: the Poles are cuddley kittens compared to Dutch trying to get home. What a load of....., the number of casualties by traffic accidents in the netherlands are far behind those of the UK or Poland, FAAAR behind. drew128: If I drove here in an English styleee, I reckon I would be danger to the locals with my pottering along looking for potential picnic spots and tutting at all wrong doing, so I do choose to blend in. You walk out my door and most people if transport allows are doing 20 - 30 clicks above the limit in our village, the man with the clipboard is not here for me, so adapt and survive. That's why driving is still crappy in Poland, it's easier to go with the flow than put your foot down and give an example.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Sep 29, 09, 15:50 / #
mvefa: What a load of crap Read his other posts, they are all crap and full of drivel. drew128: I stopped at a gas station Are you really from the uk? No one calls it "gas". drew128: You walk out my door and most people if transport allows are doing 20 - 30 clicks above the limit in our village, You have a very immature attitude to dangerous driving.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,467 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Sep 29, 09, 16:28 / #
Hes right if you cant beat them join them, you need to drive aggresively in Poland to get anywhere. I too prefer driving here its certainly not boring.

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 804 Joined: Dec 2, 07	Sep 29, 09, 16:35 / #
As the poles say, "if in doubt go flat out" Driving here is never boring but i seem to get terrible road rage here which i didn't get driving in the UK. Incompetence really pisses me off.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Sep 29, 09, 16:39 / #
drew128: I think the Western ideals about performance, being really good at something is the problem Again it is not about being political correct (which by the way its not wrong) but it is about respecting the regulations which are given to prevent accidents. That's all!!!

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,467 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Sep 29, 09, 16:48 / #
mvefa: it is about respecting the regulations which are given to prevent accidents If you obey the regulations all the time on Polish roads youre on a one way trip to the morgue believe me. One example: if you drive the speed limit here you'll have nutters over taking you left right and centre your chance of an accident instantly increases by about 90%.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,467 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Sep 29, 09, 16:52 / #
mvefa: but this guy talks like he enjoys all of the danger he is deliveratly causing No hes not it really is like that here.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Sep 29, 09, 16:54 / #
Wroclaw Boy: No hes not it really is like that here. I know i have been there, but we cannot just go with the flow, adapt a bit is fine but to become a road-terminator is just not right. Many lives are at stake. Oh well....