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What should be done to make life in Poland better and more enjoyable?


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  May 20, 09, 12:45 /  #
I guess there are a lot of things that are not really enjoyable in poland, such as the roads, the change- issue and so on, but I guess one can life with that. On the other hand there are many things that I particularly enjoy here and I'm afraid that will vanish in the course of modernization, so my answer to the question what should be done to make life more enjoyable would be the following:

- make sure that there is a bar mleczny in every street
- stop immediatly renovating krakow to preserve its patina (guess thats true for any other city)
- preserve the rural charme of eastern poland with its red wood cottages, horse driven carriages and so on
- don't open any more banks in the inner cities, I guess there are quite enough already
- promote the sale of typical polish/ communist consumer goods that somehow still survive on the free market (krowki, sobieski cigarettes, obwarzanki, fiat maluch)

in addition to that, government should issue the "minimum- program for paradise" which is:
- one flower for every girl
- one pint of beer for every man
- ice cream for every child.

that should definitely resolve the smiling- issue :)


cheers

Vinz

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  May 20, 09, 13:14 /  #
One answer springs to mind quite quickly. PMA, a positive mental attitude. Poland really has a lot going for it but this is soured somewhat by the attitude of some people.

I think also to be thankful for what one has could be another improvement. Poland has become more Western in the sense that they are forever competing with their neighbours to get a better car, what have you. A sense of worth comes from more than material goods :)
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  May 28, 09, 14:08 /  #
Vinz:
- one flower for every girl
- one pint of beer for every man
- ice cream for every child

Some people might like something they're not allocated. I hate beer but I love ice cream :)

I think Seamus is right re PMA, which is something I try to bring with me everywhere I go.

I'm looking forward to Warsaw roads post-remont (though watching the roadworks is entertaining, especially the opening and closing of tramline chasms).
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  May 28, 09, 14:16 /  #
keep skinheads out of roads :D so foreigners can enjoy time in poland...
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  May 28, 09, 19:52 /  #
Vinz:
preserve the rural charme of eastern poland with its red wood cottages, horse driven carriages and so on

Don't even think about it. I'm not going to live in heritage park for the next 50 years ;)
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Edited by: Bartolome   May 28, 09, 19:59 /  #
Vinz:
fiat maluch

I beg to differ here. Replace it with the new Mini Cooper for the same price as maluch :)
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  Jun 8, 09, 00:03 /  #
peter_olsztyn:
Don't even think about it. I'm not going to live in heritage park for the next 50 years ;)

The way they're chopping down trees along the roads around Olsztyn, I don't think there's a worry. By the way... I know a complete, newly covered (old) village road with NO potholes. It is so smooth and like a real road.

I drove along it with my wife (a car might have been better) just for the novelty.
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Edited by: peter_olsztyn   Jun 8, 09, 00:20 /  #
Trevek:
The way they're chopping down trees along the roads around Olsztyn, I don't think there's a worry.

yup.

There is an excuse we improve road safety we promise to plant new threes apart from lane but the truth is they only want earn money for chopping. We can't protect people from their stupidity unless we plant rubber threes with airbags :/
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  Jun 8, 09, 12:28 /  #
peter_olsztyn:
We can't protect people from their stupidity unless we plant rubber threes with airbags :/

Personally, I think they should place huge iron spikes on the roadside trees and see if the idiot drivers slow up a little bit
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  Jun 18, 09, 17:23 /  #
On the subject of cashiers in shops, I agree - the lack of respect for customers is at the top of my list of things that should be changed in Poland.

Having said that, one thing still confuses me about their behavior: if these people are so rude to their customers, why do I never see them send a person with too many items out of the 10-items-or-less aisles? I see this all the time in Tesco and Carrefour - a person with 14 items in the express aisle - but the cashiers never seem to unload on them. Has anyone else noticed this?
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  Jun 26, 09, 19:47 /  #
I don't know what would make the average Pole happy, but I would consider Poland a great place to live if there were policies to:
1) STOP the Vandelism
2) CONTROL the skinheads
3) have less paperwork and bureaucracy
4) institute non-paying public bathrooms
5) widen roads and add passing lanes to avoid the drunks
6) not allow alcohol in public places
7) have mandatory alcohol treatment
8) make and enforce laws for people to clean-up after their pets
9) get the church out of politics
10) provide more funds for hospitals and clinics
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  Jun 26, 09, 19:49 /  #
graceingdansk:
9) get the church out of politics
10) provide more funds for hospitals and clinics

graceingdansk:
CONTROL the skinheads

graceingdansk:
STOP the Vandelism

I would start with these four
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  Jun 26, 09, 21:01 /  #
One of the main ones is to draw people out of themselves and tap into that humour more, it's definitely there.

Calmer driving would also be welcome.

Oh, more international products. I went to the deli on the rynek tonight. High prices but at least I have the option of top quality goods once in a while. 30PLN for a normal jar of Sharwoods is a bit steep though (8 pounds in REAL terms).
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  Jun 26, 09, 21:11 /  #
What's up with that obssesion with Skins, torny?
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  Jun 26, 09, 21:14 /  #
Matyjasz:
What's up with that obssesion with Skins, torny?

what obssesion, i've picked four things.
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  Jun 26, 09, 21:22 /  #
tornado2007:
what obssesion, i've picked four things.

It's just the impression I got from you. I mean, there never have been that many SH's in Poland anyway, never mind these days.
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  Jun 26, 09, 21:40 /  #
Matyjasz:
I mean, there never have been that many SH's in Poland anyway, never mind these days.

your having a laugh right :):) your football is full of it and thats just for starters, in now way am i saying Poland is the only nation with these issues but for your to deny that 'there are not that many skinheads' made me laugh.

Even good old Ross Kemp found a major issue in Poland with Skinheads, Nazi's etc so there must be something going on if he could only speak to one pirate in three episodes of his latest series :)
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  Jun 26, 09, 23:33 /  #
You're wrong Matyjasz: There ARE a lot of skinheads in Poland.
I live in Gdańsk part of the year and see them on the streets vandalizing property and terrorizing people. Last winter I witnessed five of them in the back of a tram drinking and terrorizing young men that got on the tram calling them queers, etc., and throwing them off of the tram. Then one of them vomited all over the back of the tram. I was incredilous that the driver ignored the whole incident.
I was defenitely uneasy around them. Punks, spreading hate and discontent. And they are a problem!
To stay on the subject though, I did forget to mention that Poland could do a lot better with their emergency response-when all of this went down on the tram, I kept trying to call the police on my cell and got so frustrated with getting a busy signal that I just gave up and got on a different tram.
Incidents like this should not be allowed to happen. So....
11) get more people on the police switchboards
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  Jun 30, 09, 18:55 /  #
Any change usually involves a mentality change, that's the answer, mentality.
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  Jun 30, 09, 19:29 /  #
What should be done to make life in Poland better and more enjoyable?

Expel Tusk and his clowns to Madagaskar...

graceingdansk:
There ARE a lot of skinheads in Poland.

No. Most of people shaving their haeds are not skinheads, even most of morons with shaved heads are not skinheads. There are quite many dangerous morons with shaved heads but in vast majority of cases they are not skinheads. Real skinheads are a very small group in Poland.
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  Jul 1, 09, 10:09 /  #
Greg is actually right about something. Wow, give the dog a bone! (don't worry Greg, this was not an endorsement of homosexual practices)
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Edited by: southern   Jul 1, 09, 11:52 /  #
Admin:
What should be done to make life in Poland better and more enjoyable?

Bring in some Fazlija.


Jihozapad Edited by: Jihozapad   Jul 1, 09, 12:14 /  #
Eurola:
If you have a doctor's or a dentist's appointment, please respect your clients time.
I don't need to show in your office at appointment time only to wait another 2 or three hours (beacuse you stroll into the office late yourself).

When I go to the town hall to get some kind of business (or not) certification, don't make hop through many multiple hoops and request tons of additional proof, including signatures and original stamps.

Be nice and helpful to me when I ask for an item I don't seem to locate in Biedronka.
You don't need to take my hand and lead me there, but pointing in the right direction with a smile would make feel appreciated.

Please don't sit behind that bullet proof glass at the Bank, pretend being busy, so I can stand there expecting to be invited to the window to do my business, which is also yours.

OK, that's the few I heard recently.

I don't see why this is exclusive to Poland! ;)


graceingdansk:
I don't know what would make the average Pole happy, but I would consider Poland a great place to live if there were policies to:
1) STOP the Vandelism
2) CONTROL the skinheads
3) have less paperwork and bureaucracy
4) institute non-paying public bathrooms
5) widen roads and add passing lanes to avoid the drunks
6) not allow alcohol in public places
7) have mandatory alcohol treatment
8) make and enforce laws for people to clean-up after their pets
9) get the church out of politics
10) provide more funds for hospitals and clinics

We could do with all this in the UK, too (though for skinheads, read "chavs", and for church, read "religion") :)
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  Jul 4, 09, 21:16 /  #
Thanks for the info Grzegorz.
I thought that if it looked like a skinhead, and acted like a skinhead, then it was a skinhead!
Had no idea about the look and act-alikes
Those punks terrorizing people on the tram that day will always have me looking over my shoulder-I don't think this could be considered a good way of life for anyone.
I think Poland would be a much more pleasant place to live if these hoodlums were dealt with.
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  Jul 14, 09, 13:10 /  #
Fix the bus brakes so they don't deafen us every time they stop...
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  Jul 14, 09, 13:27 /  #
If every Prostitute, hooker, escort, call girl etc etc in the world met up in Poland for one big F*ck fest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How about that one!!!!! It would be a pretty full country though considering how many ladies are in the professions
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Edited by: still_wisher   Jul 14, 09, 13:30 /  #
tornado2007:
met up in Poland for one big F*ck fest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

loll , but i have to ask you , why in Poland ?? just because of this thread or there is some magnetic issue here ?:)
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  Jul 14, 09, 13:34 /  #
still_wisher:
loll , but i have to ask you , why in Poland ??

well the thread says 'what should be done to make life in Poland better and more enjoyable' so i just thought i'd throw a random one in there.

still_wisher:
there is some magnatic issue here ?:)

i'm not in anyway trying to say that Poland is the capital of Europe when it comes to Hookers etc, i hope nobody blasts me for that exact reason, i was just having a bit of fun. I just had one of those schoolboy moments where i could not stop laughing thinking about how full Poland would be if every hooker in the world was there, i mean you couldn't move!!! LOL the country would grind to a hault
chauduyphanvu   Jul 14, 09, 15:24 /  #
I personally think that maintaining Poland's unique culture before it is joined altogether with other EU countries' and improving trading (all aspects) could and would make life in Poland better and more enjoyable.
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  Jul 19, 09, 01:26 /  #
Fewer self righteous gits :)

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