Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people

sa d--u-d-e:

My company used to purchase in the region of 1 million metric tons of coal per month which was good business for poland, however I was forced to leave, my company now purchases its coal from indonesia as this is where i am based currently,

sa d-u-d-e:

The uk really is one of the best and safest, modest and free spirit places to be it, I would really like to extend my appreciation to the british people as they really are a great nation, no wonder why they are accepted in any country....

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce May 14, 09, 12:53 / #
Places where they have no experience of people from other countries always shows more racism. If descent people come there they usually get used to it and accept it. But if there are uncontrolled immigration with not-so-descent people the hostility and racism will remain (or even get worse). In general, people (esp. outside the big cities) are afraid of everything new that is unknown to them. Time usually solves these things.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	May 14, 09, 13:03 / #
SzwedwPolsce: Places where they have no experience of people from other countries always shows more racism. Most of the people that live in my friends village commute to larger cities so they have plenty of day to day experience of "minories" SzwedwPolsce: In general, people (esp. outside the big cities) are afraid of everything new that is unknown to them. Time usually solves these things. Again, I will explain, most people who live in villages commute and see the trash that's far enough from their doorstep to know they don't want it on their doorstep. I dont think it's ignorant or racist, I think they have the right idea...at least some places in England will be preserved...

Baltic PaulThreads: 4 Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 4, 09	May 14, 09, 13:14 / #
There is still racism in Britain. Often it is Pakistani's hating Indians or Bangladeshi's. Nigerians feuding against West Indians. Or the stereotypical White British authority figure (Police officer?) showing prejudice against a minority. It's a lot more complex than White v Black. Give Poland a few more years to adjust.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 12 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	May 14, 09, 13:15 / #
ShelleyS: they don't want it on their doorstep. Maybe. Or some descent immigrants move there and people see that it's not so bad as they thought.

paulsThreads: 1 Posts: 46 Joined: Apr 7, 09	May 14, 09, 13:48 / #
ShelleyS: they don't want it on their doorstep I am ethnic Chinese and my neighbours are predominantly white. They never have any issues with me being 'on their doorstep'.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS May 14, 09, 14:00 / #
pauls: I am ethnic Chinese and my neighbours are predominantly white. They never have any issues with me being 'on their doorstep'. You say "predominently white" Im talking about villages where there are NO ethnic minorities, believe it or not there are places still left in the UK where only white English people live.... and besides, Chinese are different, they are completely westernised, unless you're running a canabis farm or trafficing children I have no problems ;0) I've just noticed you live in London....Come on...you are trying to compare London with a sleepy village in the Derbyshire countryside!

jump_bunnyThreads: 8 Posts: 332 Joined: May 14, 09	Edited by: jump_bunny May 14, 09, 15:48 / #
hello: Call it "Polish jelaousy" It has nothing to do with jealousy. I find Polish mentality sort of similar to Russian: they like to be slightly aggresive when they see something new and potentially dangerous. In time they'd warm up to you and accept you.

paulsThreads: 1 Posts: 46 Joined: Apr 7, 09	May 14, 09, 15:54 / #
ShelleyS: Chinese are different, they are completely westernised, unless you're running a canabis farm or trafficing children I have no problems ;0) You have no issue with Chinese even though there are criminals who happen to be Chinese. So there are bad Chinese and there are good Chinese. But then, have you ever thought about the fact that in Britain there are many decent and respectable people who happen to belong to the minorities you might not like, say, Indians? So, there are bad Indians, and then there are good Indians. Seeing someone simply as Chinese, Indian, or white doesn't tell much what personal quality they possess. It is too simplistic. Things are much more complicated than that. Wouldn't it be better to see a person on an individual basis beyond the ethnicity they belong to? That will tell you a lot more.

lexiThreads: 1 Posts: 188 Joined: Feb 17, 09	May 14, 09, 16:09 / #
ShelleyS: I once asked her if there were any ethnic minorities living there, she just laughed and said that they'd be a lynching mob if anyone even came to view a property.... Sounds like a great little "inter-bred village", I bet there is loads of creative talent coming out of this village! To allow strangers in, especially from other countries would force them to open their closed little minds, and force them out of their comfort zone,and into reality.

isthatu2Threads: 12 Posts: 4,857 Joined: Apr 3, 08	May 14, 09, 16:21 / #
SzwedwPolsce: Maybe. Or some descent immigrants move there and people see that it's not so bad as they thought. I can only speak for my own small market town with authority . Its in an area where a lot of coal mines used to be,though you wouldnt know it by the countryside now thank god,so from the turn of the last century "outsiders" made there way here,including some Poles even then. After the war a lot of Poles and Ukrainians ended up around here too(and no,no one remembers any friction between these 2 groups ,despite the obvious if you think about it reasons there might have been,put it this was,Britain secretly kept a division of former Ukranian SS here after the war"just in case"...) so in that way people were used to the idea of outsiders from an early start. Add to that the amount of Scots and Irish in the area and you havnt got a "purely" english area anyway. Also,being out of the way and not part of a big city during the 50 to 70s it didnt really attract any "ethnic minorities",in my school there was one black girl and one Sihk lad, and of course in the 80s,when I was at school,NO ONE was moving to mining communities in yorkshire :) So theres only really been a slow steady in comming of "outsiders" here and I think that always helps,its in areas where the fabric of the old sociaty is torn out in one or two years by sudden mass imigration that the problems tend to arise,unfortunatly lately thats been Polish people,its not been to bad here for cases of irational dislike but there have been the usuall grumbles,in an area where jobs are scarce to find dozens of prime jobs being advertised as requiring Polish speakers doesnt help matters :) But all in all, I cant stress how much it is just a case of "strangers" and not really where they come from or what colour their skin is that can be obsereved around here. Lieke someone earlier said,it may take longer in the country but once people like you they show it and you know its genuine because we are never afraid to show if we dislike someone,unlike in cities where a lot of people show a false face just for political corecctness.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 14, 09, 21:37 / #
What crap!! One of the safest?? BS!! Modest? Now I smell sarcasm. The English have a bad rep for disliking foreign 'muck'. I didn't read the first page, maybe I should. I sense a joke posting above.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 14, 09, 21:46 / #
Well, I'm gonna wheel out the golden words of the English dictionary. Namely, 'it depends'. Some are actively hateful and some are disinterested. Simple but true!!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 14, 09, 22:06 / #
Russians are more that way. Some of the old duffers here need a firm clout round the lug. They need a firm slap. I'd love to throw some down some stairs.

ANGIELSKIORZEL	May 22, 09, 21:33 / #
Ironside: Sorry I dont buy it. You firm stoped whatever was doing in Poland due to some jerks you have met,pls. Dont be a dick, the company has'nt stopped trading in poland because of the jerks he had to put up with, its because clearly he has an influential position within a company and he has taken that influence to another country where he deals with people who can see past his colour. sorry to say it as much as i love poland this is a known problem. I never have experiance this but then i am white anglopolski. Dont get me wrong at least the poles will let you know your not welcome, the brits will see you no different untill you are away from ears shot and then spend the next hour telling his pal how he hates the foreign f*ers. I experiance this myself constantley as a white male with a yorkshire accent, the amount of people that have tried to start the whole " i fing wish these polish cuts would fu** off home conversation is now becoming beyond my count. Needless to say they only say it once to me.

Wroclaw Boy	May 14, 09, 17:40 / #
sa d-u-d-e: The uk really is one of the best and safest, modest and free spirit places to be it, I would really like to extend my appreciation to the british people as they really are a great nation, no wonder why they are accepted in any country.... Thats the stuff.

isthatu2Threads: 12 Posts: 4,857 Joined: Apr 3, 08	May 14, 09, 21:44 / #
Seanus: disliking foreign I think its more disinterest,to be fair to my neighbours ...

isthatu2Threads: 12 Posts: 4,857 Joined: Apr 3, 08	May 14, 09, 21:52 / #
Aye,but same could be said of any country,just ask the little boy who got clobbered by the ned in Glasgow for wearing an england top. I say disinterest because compared to europe where people seem interested in where you come from and in some off the beaten tracks places seem genuinly pleased that some ones bothered to visit their neck of the woods . Over here its mostly,Your from Germany,Poland,USA,yeah,why you bothered coming here then? :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 14, 09, 21:54 / #
I think it's the same in many places. In almost every country I've been to, they've asked me why I was there. I hate threads where generalisations are everywhere.

isthatu2Threads: 12 Posts: 4,857 Joined: Apr 3, 08	May 14, 09, 22:01 / #
The best people for suspions are the Russians,its so funny,when ever I try out my (bad)russian on one the reaction is always "why do you want to learn Russian?" from younger people it seems just like,why bother?From older people it always seems like they are suspisious of a forgienr learning their language :)

bullfrogThreads: 4 Posts: 379 Joined: Apr 23, 09	May 22, 09, 21:45 / #
ANGIELSKIORZEL: the brits will see you no different untill you are away from ears shot and then spend the next hour telling his pal how he hates the foreign f***ers Utter rubbish.. The Brits are one of the most tolerant nations on earth (you might also want to call it indifference, but who cares, it's the result that counts.). It is one of the european countries where the far right (BNP ) has been getting consistantly the lowest share votes (although MPs are doing their best to boost them with all the expense fiddling in Parliament). Compare to Germany, France, Poland or even Belgium.. and no, I am not a Brit!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	May 22, 09, 23:38 / #
Sometimes it's like pulling teeth with some of them. I saw a very deceitful side today, outright lying and a total lack of the apology concept. What happened to me this morning was just low and downright wrong. Not only do they not accept blame, they pin it on you. I needed a beer or 3 to unwind and a Polish guy whom I met 3 years ago gave me his side on it. He lives in the UK now as he hates the arrogance and holier-than-thou, 'I'm never wrong' attitude of some people here. Some people here need to swallow a defensive pride dissolution tablet. My whole morning was ruined by those buggers. I was promised that they'd never be late again but they were. Yet other Poles defended it. They club together like little gnolls and defend the indefensible. I got quite vocal which is rare for me.

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Edited by: Ironside May 22, 09, 23:55 / #
[quote=ANGIELSKIORZEL][/quote] Or he says so! jerks are everywhere so it maybe true ! but I don't like the way he talk about it sounds fishy to me Seanus What are you about ?

IronsideThreads: 56 Posts: 6,196 Joined: Feb 26, 09	May 23, 09, 00:25 / #
Seanus: I can't let people off with cr*p. Standards are standards. as I said Ironside: As a teacher you are excused Keeping standards it's all about education or should be good job, carry on

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus May 23, 09, 00:26 / #
I'm about to be swept off to random. The attitude of the Polish people. They love to complain. They make us Scots look like amateurs. Totally feckin inconsiderate. They are shouting away. If my fiancee wakes up, she'll give them hell. Such selfish cun*s sometimes.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,243 Joined: Feb 21, 09	May 23, 09, 00:46 / #
nauczyciel: I guess i dont have that Slavic male look You mean you're not handsome? nauczyciel: I get scowls from guys. They told me you scowled first. nauczyciel: babies look at me wierd, Even babies? Must be you then! nauczyciel: work out only the upper body and wear tight fitting shirts. LOL, you must be a comedy writer (not a good one but still...) nauczyciel: I'm an ESL teacher here in PL Whatever it is you do, you're overpaid.

theblueenigmaThreads: 7 Posts: 215 Joined: Aug 20, 08	May 28, 09, 17:59 / #
sa d--u-d-e: My company used to purchase in the region of 1 million metric tons of coal per month which was good business for poland, however I was forced to leave, my company now purchases its coal from indonesia as this is where i am based currently, Bullshi*, you honestly expect people to believe that a company sourced that much raw material elsewhere because you were occassionaly bullied by a few drunken yobs in bars . . . nonsense sa d-u-d-e: The uk really is one of the best and safest, modest and free spirit places to be it, I would really like to extend my appreciation to the british people as they really are a great nation, no wonder why they are accepted in any country.... lol I had tears in my eyes laughing at that. Ive lived in the England and I have family there, if anything it is possibly one of the most racist countries you will encounter because of uncontrolled mass immigration. Asians are particularly disliked in the Uk and are regularly targeted in race hate attacks. While I sympathise with any bad experiences foreigners encounter in Poland (If it is true at all) I suspect your porkies are designed to stir up trouble and you are a regular poster here mascarading as a hapless asian. Your lies are too exagerated to be true, try opening another account but tone down the lies a little ;)

mvefa	May 29, 09, 11:02 / #
I find this poland situation very confusing. Iam a half Dutch/half latin, i am bit of tanned skin but green eyes and light hair, so not really dark, but in Poland i was treated really nicely, people were corteuos, they were curious about me, they went out of their way to help me when i needed something. Really had a great experience. However when i read this threats about racism, i see a total different side, iam a bit confused, can someone enlighten me? Thanks

theblueenigmaThreads: 7 Posts: 215 Joined: Aug 20, 08	May 29, 09, 11:09 / #
mvefa: However when i read this threats about racism, i see a total different side, iam a bit confused, can someone enlighten me? Yes he is telling lies just trying to stir trouble

BevKThreads: 18 Posts: 281 Joined: Mar 20, 09	May 29, 09, 11:55 / #
ANGIELSKIORZEL: I experiance this myself constantley as a white male with a yorkshire accent, the amount of people that have tried to start the whole " i f**ing wish these polish cuts would fu** off home conversation is now becoming beyond my count. Oh and in Yorkshire too? No wonder then. The bastion of tolerance that is Yorkshire. (Also Anglopolski. Also from Yorkshire originally, without the Ecky Thump accent at least :) )

new-expat	May 29, 09, 16:00 / #
He's maybe telling lies (who believes this coal business story lol ?), but... But I think Poland is a bit less foreigner-friendly than other countries in Europe. I remember being in Warsaw 3 years ago with a friend of me. Her skin was totally black, never seen darker before, and ppl were looking at her like she was an animal. In the countryside, some even clicked pics of her !!! How humiliating for her ! And many times I had the occasion to feel that Polish guys didn't seem to like foreigners. I mean OK, not ALL the polish guys (some of my pretty goods friends here are Polish) but hey a good part of those I've came accross. I called a "***** foreigner" - don't remember the words in Polish - once or twice by young drunk ppl in the street, which never** happened to me in any other countries. What's more, some polish friends themselves also tell me that Polish are a bit racist ; I'm not inventing it...