Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people

mchnai:

i find the attitude of the polish is mostly to work and send money back home but at least they work like the british used to,the british middle classes have ruind uthe uk,because they got lazy. now they relize it. but the asiain comunity have ravaged the uk for years, and still doing so england is its own worst enemy, and has more faces than a toatum pole

MyszolowThreads: 4 Posts: 171 Joined: Jul 28, 09	Jul 28, 09, 17:54 / #
I think a lot of Poles are racist. I also think I know why. There are not that many foreigners here, so they are a couple of generations behind (as compared to UK) in gaining experience of living with foreigners. Previous experience of living with foreigners in Poland involved Germans and Russians and damaged those generations beyond repair. They won't "get over it". It will disappear to a large extent when that generation dies off, but the wound will take a couple more generations to disappear from sight. My wife's grandparents all hated the Germans. Here in the Zgierz/Lodz area there simply aren't many blacks (they're all in UK). Even the gypsies round here all have British registered cars. The thing is though. A lot of people in all countries are racist. At least the Poles (the buraki at least) are straightforward about it and it is simply because they haven't met foreigners. My wife never got job interviews in the UK until we anglicised her name. Overnight, the interviews started coming in. (Hidden racism) I'm a Brit, but when my grandma heard I got engaged to a Pole, her response was "she is white isn't she?" Ignorance - pure and simple. A friend of mine once dated an Indian girl. I was going to "borrow" her to take and show my gran to pretend she was my GF. Never got round to it though. :) I do find the people in the area we have our Zgierz house to be pretty narrow-minded though. They all seem to think that we should sell our English house and move to Zgierz permanently. Yeah - right. A neighbour was telling me yesterday Angli jest za ciasno. I replied. Tak, bo za dużo Polaków. ;) Another little anecdote to finish with. We made a new friend in the UK. She's a Pole and had recently moved from Leicester to near where we live in UK (we divide our time between Poland and UK). She said to my wife... "It's great here. Mało murzynów" There are a lot in the Leicester area and she'd moved South. A British person would never say something like that to a stranger on first acquaintance. There is a difference in racial attitudes. But give it a couple of generations and those who have travelled outside their own home town and village - even as far as za granice - and the attitudes will change. Some Poles are great. Some are complete gits. But it's the same with any nation. Now could someone please teach Poles how to hold doors open and drive considerately? :)

Tun Phat	Jul 28, 09, 17:58 / #
"It will disappear to a large extent when that generation dies off" Debateable. The Poles tend to harbour grudges and ill-will longer than other nations. There is still resentment, according to posts on this forum, of the English because of their apparent betrayal at the end of WWII. How many years ago was that now? Get over it already.

MyszolowThreads: 4 Posts: 171 Joined: Jul 28, 09	Edited by: Myszolow Jul 28, 09, 18:01 / #
Tun Phat: The Poles tend to harbour grudges and ill-will longer than other nations. There is still resentment, according to posts on this forum, of the English because of their apparent betrayal at the end of WWII. How many years ago was that now? Get over it already. Well, I did say to a large extent. The younger people I know seem not to be too bothered about the war. They're too busy working their butts off to have a decent quality of life. :) By the time they have grandchildren it'll all but be forgotten about. I've been coming to Poland for about 15 years and never once experienced any hostility because of being English. That doesn't mean there isn't any resentment, but I've not knowingly been on the receiving end of it.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Jul 28, 09, 18:04 / #
Tun Phat: according to posts on this forum It must be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but... if found on this forum. Or my name isn't rumpelstiltskin. Jeez people come on, you can't judge a nation because you read a forum. Myszolow: I've been coming to Poland for about 15 years and never once experienced any hostility because of being English. That doesn't mean there isn't any resentment, but I've not knowingly been on the receiving end of it. So what is the logical conclusion?. They are secret about it? why would they be?. Or maybe it is just this forum?.

stefa	Jul 28, 09, 18:16 / #
SeanBM: Or maybe it is just this forum?. or maybe because is Polish forum so nobody talks about Eskimos? Should we concentrate on North Pole issues from now on?

MyszolowThreads: 4 Posts: 171 Joined: Jul 28, 09	Jul 28, 09, 18:22 / #
SeanBM: So what is the logical conclusion?. They are secret about it? why would they be?. The logical conclusion is that the Poles don't have any "issues" with me. I can't extend that to the whole nation as I only represent myself. :) But you get the picture. ;)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Jul 28, 09, 18:28 / #
stefa: or maybe because is Polish forum so nobody talks about Eskimos? I am sure if you search, hold on, this could be entertaining. 31 threads mentioning eskimos, not including yours.click here. stefa: Should we concentrate on North Pole issues from now on? If you like, no threads about there, yet. Myszolow: I can't extend that to the whole nation as I only represent myself. :) But you get the picture. ;) I really do and if you reverse that same logic, the individuals you meet represent themselves :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 28, 09, 18:31 / #
Holding doors open is a good opportunity to snub sb, why don't you take it? ;) ;) Seriously though, a simple thank you would suffice. Dour-faced sods!

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Jul 28, 09, 18:33 / #
Tun Phat: The Poles tend to harbour grudges and ill-will longer than other nations. Oh come on, just because there's a history and politics discussion on the forums you can't generalize like that. It's not like Poles are walking around and when they see a foreigner they yell how they were left alone during WW2. It comes out during discussion because it's an important part of these discussion, especially if it's about history. The only time you can hear it while being in Poland or outside of Poland is when you read newspapers or watch telly - because politicians are bringing it up time and time again, it's the way most of politicians behave, by digging up different fossils from the past. You don't hear polish people bantering about it. Of course when people are quarelling different things come to mind, so in the same way american kids spout stuff like uk would be german without the help of united states during ww2 - same way some Poles may react during an argument. It's not a national trait.

MyszolowThreads: 4 Posts: 171 Joined: Jul 28, 09	Jul 28, 09, 18:39 / #
SeanBM: I really do and if you reverse that same logic, the individuals you meet represent themselves :) Good point. :)

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09	Aug 24, 09, 15:30 / #
new-expat: He asked to our polish friends to click a pic with us guy. We were a bit surprised but well, we accepted Really, you lot got treated like animals. And even he thanked you! WOW, that is openly racist!

superpolak	Aug 28, 09, 13:31 / #
brits should stfu and leave poland now. no one needs these primitive people here!

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 28, 09, 13:43 / #
superpolak: brits should stfu and leave poland now. no one needs these primitive people here! Will Poles in the UK return the favour?

OnLocationThreads: - Posts: 4 Joined: Aug 30, 09	Aug 30, 09, 07:30 / #
Baltic Paul Haha that is so true. I have a friend from Pakistan and he always tells me that they hate Indian people.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 29, 09, 19:39 / #
The motivational aspect needs a bit of work in some but that's the same in most countries. Incentives tend to be higher in the West so that's another factor. What we must remember is that we can influence the behaviour of others in our own way.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,267 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER	Aug 30, 09, 09:08 / #
superpolak: brits should stfu and leave poland now. no one needs these primitive people here! Shoul we take our English companies ie Tesco's and Castorama with us?

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Aug 30, 09, 17:21 / #
Wroclaw Boy: Shoul we take our English companies ie Tesco's and Castorama with us? Although I think what superpolak says is drivel, I think that disappearance of another supermarket brand wouldn't change much. There are certain supermarkets that change their owner every few years just to renew privileges that they receive for the first year of running, and there are many other companies that would gladly take over..

mchnai	Aug 30, 09, 21:40 / #
i find the attitude of the polish is mostly to work and send money back home but at least they work like the british used to,the british middle classes have ruind uthe uk,because they got lazy. now they relize it. but the asiain comunity have ravaged the uk for years, and still doing so england is its own worst enemy, and has more faces than a toatum pole

OsiedleRuda	Aug 30, 09, 21:51 / #
mchnai: i find the attitude of the polish is mostly to work and send money back home but at least they work like the british used to,the british middle classes have ruind uthe uk,because they got lazy. now they relize it. but the asiain comunity have ravaged the uk for years, and still doing so england is its own worst enemy, and has more faces than a toatum pole You racist prick, it's Britain's middle and working classes who work the longest hours in Europe, and our reward for keeping this country afloat is to be taxed into poverty by a treacherous Government which prefers to spend our tax on illegal wars and underclass benefits. You've probably never worked a day in your life so you can just **** off.

mchnai	Aug 30, 09, 21:52 / #
souperp.....kwhat would you say if the ENGLISH were to say the same to thepolish here

mchnai	Aug 30, 09, 22:04 / #
OsiedleRuda your obviously middle class you dopei worked 24/7 for thirty five yearsmy taxes let all imputs live on benifit, am i a racist yes, but i dont practis it ,they f...ked for thereselves nowso what do you no dope

MyszolowThreads: 4 Posts: 171 Joined: Jul 28, 09	Edited by: Myszolow Aug 30, 09, 22:42 / #
Wroclaw Boy: Shoul we take our English companies ie Tesco's and Castorama with us? I thought Castorama was French? ;) (Ahhh, I see it's now owned by Kingfisher)

UsefullIdiotThreads: - Posts: 10 Joined: Aug 30, 09	Edited by: UsefullIdiot Aug 30, 09, 22:54 / #
Myszolow Brits, always humming the denationalist's hymn of destruction. How does the tune go again, let's see if I have it down... ..."Poland isn't a true Western country because it's too Polish. Poland is a backward country because it's too Christian. Poland needs white flight from Gdańsk to Zakopane, because anything less is racist. Poland needs a rape epidemic like they have in Sweden. Poland needs riots and a city full of burning cars like they have in Paris. Half of Poland's culture and history should be outlawed due to racial sensitives. The Lion of Lechistan's name should be outlawed from public use. Poland needs dead Van Gogh's lying in the street. Poland needs Hindus hiring other Hindus over native Poles, while lashing out at white racism. Poland needs Islamic jihadists spitting in the faces our soldiers, on our own city streets. Poland needs placards and protest calling for "death to Poland". Poland needs a double decker bus bomb in the middle of down town Warsaw..." Is that pretty close to what the Brits want to see happen in Poland? Sounds like a regular Utopia, is there a petition I can sign to get the ball rolling a little quicker? I'm a usefull idiot, so let me know what I can do to help... PS - Did anyone catch the local news a while back when a Brit from a stag party got caught taking a dump under the Sukiennice in the Rynek Główny, Kraków? It's too bad he didn't try that in Nowa Huta...

krakowThreads: 1 Posts: 35 Joined: Oct 19, 08	Sep 1, 09, 15:16 / #
theblueenigma You really think Polish country folk have never seen a black person before ? Well doll, you really dont know your own country do you>!!! I live in gorlice,(6 yrs and counting) and about 2 yrs ago the circus came here, and lo and behold the kids were oogling,pointing and laughing at the coloured guys who work for the circus, rather than make the most if the camels,elephants and such. So YES there is places in poland where the locals havent seen a coloured pwerson face to face.....so start exploring and getting to know your own country dude

Leszek49Threads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Jul 31, 09	Sep 1, 09, 18:32 / #
People please, lets not forget the historical and geographical aspect of Poland.The Polish people were almost wiped-out because of the wars. They are located or sandwiched in between Russia and Germany. They have survived and are on the way up economically and have come a long way. The past, they will never forget and that is why they are the way they are!!! It takes time, a long time to get back to Western European mentality. Thats why they are hesitant and are more aggressive to other people that occupy their homeland. It will take time...the young Poles are the most educated people around but they work for peanuts due to the way the country is governed. Its like anywhere else in the work...goverment SUCKS.Who end up paying in the end---the people. So people on the Forum, have some patience with the Polish population-once you get to know them and understand where they are coming from-they are the best nationality you would want to know-all heart.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 1, 09, 22:13 / #
There is often a lot of heart and drive shown (especially when going for breakfast in hotels in the morning, lol). They are aware of their past, often brutally so, but remain strong. It won't only be Poland that'll pay the price either, America's future generations will be stung due to the loose and wild spending in recent times. I think it's time to curb the greed of international corporations and start thinking about living costs for the average Joe or Paweł.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,587 Joined: Nov 25, 08	Sep 2, 09, 13:32 / #
The attitude of Polish people has only one problem - they don't want to make money! I've been trying to get quotes for what could be a decent return business for them (potentially 5000PLN/week!) , yet every time I call up, I'm told "e-mail for a quote". I do, and I'm still waiting for most of them to reply. Absolute, complete joke. What's wrong with giving me a quote over the phone?!

rychlikThreads: 51 Posts: 442 Joined: Aug 6, 08	Edited by: rychlik Sep 4, 09, 06:07 / #
Myszolow: I think a lot of Poles are racist. I also think I know why. There are not that many foreigners here, so they are a couple of generations behind (as compared to UK) in gaining experience of living with foreigners. Let me tell you something: MULTICULTURALISM DOES NOT WORK!!!!!! I came to Canada when I was 6 years old (25 years old now). Have lived in Toronto almost 4 years. This city is totally different from the rest of Canada. They predict that by 2012 white Europeans will be a minortiy in a city that was established by white Europeans! Hello. Maybe time to wake up? Now there's a ton of Hindu's, Paki's, Tamils, Arabs, Blacks and Asians (Chinese). Guess what? They all stick together!! You think you'll ever see an Asian with a Hindu? Never seen it. The Chinese do not like them. I do see a lot of white men with Asians though :) But I digress. The point is that there is more crime now in Toronto, people are ruder than ever. Hmm I wonder why? There are also gang problems- black gangs!!! Why is it that wherever black's go then they turn those neighbourhoods to shi't??? South Central Los Angeles, Bronx+Brooklyn (NYC), New Orleans, Detroit is a black hole, parts of Toronto, Paris suburbs- there's more. These are not coincidences!!! Look at Africa for christs sake! I believe it's in their blood. Poland is very lucky that is still homogenous. I hope they do not make the mistake of following western nations in this multi-cult cra'p because it will destroy the country again. By the way I had a French roommate who told me because of all the goddam muslims moving to France that they they'll see a civil war in his life time. Interesting isn't it? They only people who preach tolerance are the ones who have never lived in a multicultural society.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Sep 9, 09, 01:19 / #
Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people The attitudes are fine adjust your own hahahahahahahahahaha

Canuck	Sep 12, 09, 21:50 / #
Its not that Poles are rude or egocentric but that they are very sensitive people. They are too involved with their emotions and the thoughts of others that they build a wall. Sensivity leads to harshness.